Germany spent a lot of money on synthetic oil-it wouldn’t have cost as much to expoilt naturally occurring oil fields, and those resources could have gone to producing more equipment (which the new massive oil fields, in conjunction with Romania’s could fuel). Germany might even have been able to the give the Italian navy more oil, which would help operations in the Mediterranean. Japan would be able to not attack the Western Allies, which would allow them to destroy China more easily, with all of Japan’s resources aimed at it, with a fully fuelled army and navy. Perhaps Japan, without a massive naval war, could even invest more in tanks and mechanized infantry which would be fully fueled, and would make a possible invasion of the Soviet Union much easier. Supply problems in China and the Soviet Union would have been not as bad. Perhaps several hundred more tanks and mechanized infantry at the Battle Of Moscow, completely fuelled, might have been decisive-and if that wasn’t enough, there would have been more casualties, which would set the stage for a renewed German offensive against Moscow without the need to take Soviet oil. Bombing the oil fieleds might have been sufficent enough to allow Germany to take Moscow in 1942. This would have been coupled with Japanese pressure on the Soviet Union. It would still be close, but the Axis may have won on the Eastern Front. After that, Germany can dedicate all their resources for submarine warfare and fighters to protect the oil fields, and the fighter force would still have performed well, as there would not be a loss of oil, which resulted in training cuts. All of this, with Vichy France and Spain joining the Axis, would have created a crisis in the Mediterranean, especially now that Germany could possibly send an entire panzer army to North Africa, and will have enormous amounts to men on the Atlantic Wall. If China falls, then altogether, the Axis would have won.
Axis invasion of America
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Imperious Leader '17 '16 '15 Organizer '14 Customizer '13 '12 '11 '10last edited by Aug 5, 2012, 12:38 AM
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Nice.
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This looks a bit like the animated map in one of Frank Capra’s Why We Fight films (I think it was the first one, Prelude to War) which shows a similar German-Japanese invasion of the US via South America, but which throws in an extra pincer movement in which the Germans also invade via Greenland and Labrador and the Japanes also invade via Alaska and the Rocky Mountains. I assume whoever thought up these northern pincers never tried crossing those territories in person to see how practical that would have been. The part about Japan invading the Americas by taking a Japan-Solomons-Galapagos route is also pretty funny: it’s just about the longest route one could imagine, and it consists almost entirely of empty ocean. The only advantage I can see to it is that the Japanese task force would pass fairly close to French Polynesia, so the Japanese would be able to take a little rest-and-recreation break in Tahiti before getting down to the serious business of subjugating the U.S.
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If this happened we would have had a better world, men on mars, cancer healable, no aids, and mainly: no imperious leader!
/trollface
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It is sad the axis did not reach their goals. They tried to prevent the hegemony of America. Now a days we all live in America. America’s hegemony is so complete so thorough that the dominators and the oppressed think it is the natural order of things. It is sad.
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Imperious Leader '17 '16 '15 Organizer '14 Customizer '13 '12 '11 '10last edited by Sep 28, 2012, 11:07 PM
It is sad the axis did not reach their goals.
Are you kidding? Half the worlds population would have been liquidated to even get to “invade America” scenario. You worry about USA too much, not looking at unfathomable evils Germany and Japan had in mind.
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Because Japan would have treated Hawaii better? LOL
Look at the Nihaii incident. The local Japanese residents, who NEVER previously showed any disloyalty, turned on the tiny community they had lived with for YEARS! And started trying to kill people! LOL…
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Imperious Leader '17 '16 '15 Organizer '14 Customizer '13 '12 '11 '10last edited by Sep 29, 2012, 5:19 AM
PLEASE DO NOT reply to me. That is what WE ONLY DISCUSSED A FEW DAYS AGO.
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I replied to cow.
Get over yourself.
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Interesting in that it was outlined by a speculative fiction writer, I don’t think it could have truly happened, unless of course you add something more sci-fi like this:
http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Morgen_die_ganze_Welt
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Yeah - looking forward to watching that…
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