• @wittmann:

    Rather than defend the island from the beaches(a surprise to the US commanders), he decided to defend it from underground. He had his men construct 11km of tunnels, 5000 caves and pillboxes.

    If they had existed in the US arsenal at the time of WWII, the method that might have been the most effective in killing the Japanese defenders inside their network of underground tunnels would probably have been to use thermobaric weapons, i.e. fuel-air bombs.  The gaseous mixture can be allowed to infiltrate tunnels prior to detonation, and its explosive effects are quite devastating in enclosed spaces – with the added lethal factor that they consume the ambient oxygen and asphxiate the people who survives the actual blast.


  • I was sympathising with the Japs on this one Marc and especially with Kuribayashi. Some think he may have committed suicide, but I think a last ditch, well planned attack, not Banzai Charge, led by him seems more in character…
    He would have stripped his uniform of rank, thereby ensuring he was not recognised by the enemy. A pity, as the US commander would have given him a decent and fitting burial. His body could have been returned to his family.
    He chose to die and be buried with his men anonymously.
    We all have different ideas of what honour is.


  • On the 27th April 1945 Mussolini and his mistress, Clara Petacci, were captured by Italian Partisans near Lake Como, in the North of Italy. They were  trying to escape to Switzerland, then on to Spain.


  • @wittmann:

    On the 27th April 1945 Mussolini and his mistress, Clara Petacci, were captured by Italian Partisans near Lake Como, in the North of Italy. They were  trying to escape to Switzerland, then on to Spain.Â

    And today the 28th they were both executed.  Their corpses were publicly desecrated the following day, unlike those of their German counterparts Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun who had arranged to have their bodies burned after their suicides to keep them out of the hands of the Russians.


  • Morning Marc.
    I read(and did not know) that in 1946, three men dug up his corpse and it was then missing for months. It was with two monks when eventually discovered.
    The Italian government did not know to do with his body and it was 10 years before a decision was made.
    To appease the Right wing parties in Italy, a crypt was built in his birthplace. It is quite some piece, having a large marble bust of him and being adorned with two marble fasces( the symbol of Fascism).


  • @wittmann:

    To appease the Right wing parties in Italy, a crypt was built in his birthplace. It is quite some piece, having a large marble bust of him and being adorned with two marble fasces( the symbol of Fascism).

    Here’s a bit of trivia on that subject: there’s a church right here in Montreal’s Little Italy district (The Church of the Madonna della Difesa) whose interior decorations include an equestrian fresco of Mussolini.


  • How cool that he can still be venerated.
    These days  it is frowned upon to use the “voi” form of polite address, as it was readopted by Mussolini and ,therefore,  associated with the Fascist era. You should use  “lei”.
    Many old ladies still use “voi” and it makes me smile. I cannot remember if my young nan did.
    Nonno would certainly have told her off!


  • @wittmann:

    How cool that he can still be venerated.

    I don’t know if Il Duce is still venerated by Montreal’s Italian community (which is quite large: about a quarter-million people of Italian ancestry, roughly equal to the entire population of Venice, which is why we have so many good Italian restaurants in town).  I’ve heard that the fresco is somewhat controversial, but that it’s been retained as a historical artefact.  I first learned about it in a guidebook listing various oddities and little-known facts about the city, and I recall being surprised to read about this relic of the fascist era.  I should go check it out one of these days.  Another local oddity that may intrigue you is a plaque bolted to the side of a large downtown department store (a gift of the United Daughters of the Confederacy, as I recall) stating that Jefferson Davis once stayed at a house formerly located there.


  • I remember you telling me about the Jeff Davis plaque.

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    Thanks for reviving this thread, Wittman!

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    It’s unfortunate that Mussolini was shot without a proper trial. Petacci probably only died because she refused to leave Mussolini’s side until the very end. She had been infatuated with him from an early age, as testified by: http://historyandotherthoughts.blogspot.nl/2013/06/young-claretta-petacci-writes-to.html


  • Thanks Herr KaLeun. I was unaware of her history. That letter is a hell of a read!
    Not much different, I suppose,  from a young Pop fan’s adoration of his/her idol.
    Nice to hear from you. Hope you have been well.


  • April 29th 1945
    Hitler designated Donitz as his successor and was married to Eva Braun in his Berlin bunker.
    The Reich Chancellery came under Russian artillery fire
    An unconditional surrender was signed at Caserta by German Army Group Southwest commander in Italy, General Vietinghoff.
    Theres more on this day for all the years but I’m off to play games
    S.A.


  • April 30 1945
    Hitler committed suicide along with his new wife, their bodies were doused with gasoline and burned by the Russians


  • Their bodies were burned by German troops, not by the Soviets.


  • Good to see activity in the WWII forum.


  • Evening Worsham. Hope you have been well.
    Jackson was wounded today(2nd May) in 1863 of course. Keep well, have a good weekend  and best wishes.


  • Today in 1942, Japanese forces invaded tulagi in the first part of Operation Mo. This would eventually result in the battle of the coral sea.


  • On May 3rd 1945 Oberbefehlshaber Heeresgruppe G: Albert Kesselring receives the “Ritterkreuzes des Eisernen Kreuzes” - Knights cross of Iron cross.

    On May 3rd 1941,Dave Robinson was born.
    Known as an American Football player (Linebacker) who made it to the Gator Bowl Hall of Fame in 1996.
    He played for the Greenbay Packers and later on for Washington Redskins.


  • On the 14th June 1944(the day after Wittmann’s amazing one tank rout of the 7th Armour at Villers Bocage), an English Sergeant by the name of Wilfred Harris made his mark.
    Commanding a 17lb Sherman Firefly in the 7th Dragoon Guards, he was at the village of Lingevres, near Tilly Sur Seulles in Normandy, when 2 Panthers appeared in his sights at 800m. He quickly dispatched both. He next moved to another part of the village and seeing 3 more Panthers knocked them out too. All 5 had been disabled with a single shot.
    He was promoted after this and awarded the Distinguished Conduct Medal.
    He died in 1988.

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