Is there a sea passage between 109 and 119?
Yes, there is.
Yes, there is.
I was going to freak out, but then I realized when he said 109 I was thinking 110.
There’s no secret sea passage from 110 to 119, right? :lol:
Yes, there is.
Thanks - tried to search for it but only a “missing” topic came up and was wondering :)
(and no - 109 is not 110 :p )
UK Pacific gets its income from UK Pacific board excluding British Columbia and including West India.
When UK takes over Persia, the IPC gained goes to UK Europe? If Germany takes over London, then UK takes over Persia, then the IPC gained goes o UK Pacific? If UK takes over Persia, then Germany takes over London, can UK take Persia for UK Pacific?
When UK takes over Persia, the IPC gained goes to UK Europe?
Yes.
If Germany takes over London, then UK takes over Persia, then the IPC gained goes o UK Pacific? If UK takes over Persia, then Germany takes over London, can UK take Persia for UK Pacific?
No. London can never collect IPCs from Pacific, and Calcutta can never collect IPCs from Europe.
do transports stop shore bombard?
do transports stop shore bombard?
They do if they are being attacked.
If they are being ignored (and allowed to survive) then they don’t. So it’s up to the attacker whether they stop shore bombard or not.
@Cmdr:
You know, I believe Krieg said you can load transports in a hostile zone and move them as long as you are engaging in combat that turn. So I could load from Alexandria and attack Gibraltar or Syria, that destroyer doesn’t do anything but stop shore bombardments because Transports are not combat units.
You might want to double check that and get back to me.
Krieg-
Have I missed a change to this long standing rule?
_Europe 1940 Rules (They Govern G40) Page 13
Sea Units Starting in Hostile Sea Zones
At the beginning of the Combat Move phase, you may already have sea units in spaces containing enemy units that were there at the start of your turn. For example, an enemy may have built new sea units in a sea zone where you have surface warships. When your turn comes around again, you are sharing that sea zone with enemy forces.
If you are sharing a sea zone with surface warships (not submarines and\or transports) belonging to a power with which you are at war, this situation requires you to do one of the following._
Remain in the sea zone and conduct combat.
Leave the sea zone, load units if desired, and conduct combat elsewhere
Leave the sea zone, load units, and return to the same sea zone to conduct combat (you can’t load units while in a hostile sea zone), or
Leave the sea zone and conduct no combat
Once these sea units have moved and/or participated in combat, they can’t move or participate in the Noncombat Move phase of the turn.
The only time that you can load transports in a hostile sea zone is in the combat movement phase in which you declare war. This may only be done under those conditions if the transport started the turn in that sea zone and the sea zone has just become hostile as a result of the declaration of war.
So one could move the transports from SZ 98 to SZ 97 and back to SZ 99 (assuming you control Egypt’s Naval Base) despite an enemy warship in SZ 98.
@Cmdr:
So one could move the transports from SZ 98 to SZ 97 and back to SZ 99 (assuming you control Egypt’s Naval Base) despite an enemy warship in SZ 98.
That is my reading of the rules.
@Emperor:
@Cmdr:
So one could move the transports from SZ 98 to SZ 97 and back to SZ 99 (assuming you control Egypt’s Naval Base) despite an enemy warship in SZ 98.
That is my reading of the rules.
Yes, but to be clear: that’s not loading units in a hostile seazone on a declaration of war, especially as the UK and Italy/Germany never get to declare war on each other as they start at war, so none of that DOW shenanegins applies between them.
And further, that’s retreating from a hostile seazone and loading in a non-hostile seazone as a combat move (seemingly for an amphibious assault on a territory in SZ99). You would HAVE to assault one of those territories if you wanted to offload the units, as you moved them during a combat move and cannot offload during the noncombat phase of the same turn.
I’m not certain, but I don’t think you could load them if you weren’t able to (or didn’t want to) perform an amphibious assault either.
The transports would “disengage” during the combat move phase. The units would load the transports during the non-combat move phase or the combat move phase. I believe. Just like you can land fighters on carriers in any movement phase you want, provided you follow the rules of carrier landings. (no more than 2, you cannot magically put more fuel in the planes to get them there, etc.)
Yes, but to be clear: that’s not loading units in a hostile seazone on a declaration of war, especially as the UK and Italy/Germany never get to declare war on each other as they start at war, so none of that DOW shenanegins applies between them.
And further, that’s retreating from a hostile seazone and loading in a non-hostile seazone as a combat move (seemingly for an amphibious assault on a territory in SZ99). You would HAVE to assault one of those territories if you wanted to offload the units, as you moved them during a combat move and cannot offload during the noncombat phase of the same turn.
I’m not certain, but I don’t think you could load them if you weren’t able to (or didn’t want to) perform an amphibious assault either.
Correct on all counts. Since UK and Italy begin the game at war, the exemption does not apply, and transports may not be loaded in a hostile sea zone.
@Cmdr:
The transports would “disengage” during the combat move phase. The units would load the transports during the non-combat move phase or the combat move phase. I believe. Just like you can land fighters on carriers in any movement phase you want, provided you follow the rules of carrier landings. (no more than 2, you cannot magically put more fuel in the planes to get them there, etc.)
Land and sea units may never move in both the combat and noncombat movement phases. Transports starting the turn in a hostile sea zone must either fight (assuming they are escorted) or flee in the combat movement phase. If they flee, they may load (for an immediate amphibious assault only) in a friendly sea zone (unless the exemption described above allows loading in the initial hostile sea zone, which in this case it does not). In either case, they may not move, load, or unload in the noncombat movement phase.
My opponent and I are having a disagreement in the Alpha +.2 rule set. It is concerning how war is declared. Specifically, Japan was not at war with ANZAC and the UK on its turn 4. Therefore, I wanted to verbally declare war with on UK4 so that UK Pacific and ANZAC could gain their “at war” NOs. The disagreement was that he thought war was declared by actual combat movement, not just a verbal declaration. Hence, no combat movement meant we were still not at war.
We both looked in the rulebook, and it doesn’t specifically state whether a declaration of war is verbal or specifically requires combat movement.
Thank you for an answer in advance.
My opponent and I are having a disagreement in the Alpha +.2 rule set. It is concerning how war is declared. Specifically, Japan was not at war with ANZAC and the UK on its turn 4. Therefore, I wanted to verbally declare war with on UK4 so that UK Pacific and ANZAC could gain their “at war” NOs. The disagreement was that he thought war was declared by actual combat movement, not just a verbal declaration. Hence, no combat movement meant we were still not at war.
We both looked in the rulebook, and it doesn’t specifically state whether a declaration of war is verbal or specifically requires combat movement.
Thank you for an answer in advance.
You’re right, and he’s wrong. The DOW is made at the beginning of the combat move phase, but does not require combat movements that turn.
Some silly questions:
1. If the US makes an amphibious assault on for instance Southern Italy, and the sz is occupied only by a cruiser belonging to the UK. If Italy decides to scramble, do they have to fight the UK cruiser in addition to the US fleet?
2. When you are making an amphibious assault, can you always send planes into the same sz in case the defender scrambles?
3. If Moscow has fallen to Germany and the UK moves into a Sovjet territory in NCM, can they claim the IPCs? Or can they just claim the IPCs from territories that are liberated? Can the UK make use of the ICs or AAs in the Sovjet territories they move into/ liberate?
Thanks!
