NML 1914 team game 14

[FMErwinRommel]

Speaking of HGs, I am in my third time listening to the audiobook “A World Undone, the Great War 1914-1918” which I mentioned a long time ago. NML 1914 has for the most part done as good a job as can be expected of replicating the actual war. But I just realized that the game has HGs as primarily defensive weapons, while in reality, HGs were used in an offensive role.

Artillery was the primary weapon of destruction, more than rifles, machine guns, etc. Gas turned out not to be a decisive factor in most cases.
Hundreds of thousands of shells wee used in individual battles or campaigns to soften up defenses. Most powers were consuming a million shells a month. The goal was to kill the defenders so they couldn’t massacre the attacking infantry with machine guns, artillery and rifle fire.
Light or medium artillery couldn’t penetrate fortified bunkers. So HGs were used and shrapnel shells were used to destroy the barbed wire.
Thus, HGs should really have special effect on trenches & bunkers

[FMErwinRommel]

Realistically, HGs are not more deadly to attackers than FGs, which might use shrapnel. If HGs high defense were replaced with some trench destroying capability, it would make the game less defensive and more offensive, and reduce the use of gas. Gas should have its use limited, say roll whether its allowed due to wind, and it’s attack value reduced. In reality, defenders learned to counter the effects of gas and the vagaries of wind made it dangerous to attackers or ineffective.
Modifying gas rules would be hard.
Some more sophisticated computer wargames keep track of ammo supply and usage. This is probably not what we want, but shell shortages were a significant factor in WWI, due to the massive usage and being more complex and expensive than mere bullets.

[Witt]

@nasty FRenchies Paris here we come!.tsvg

[Elrood]

@Witt

I fart in your general direction!!

[Witt]

@Elrood I suspect my Gas is more potent .

[FMErwinRommel]

@Witt I built 4 figs in London, expecting that you would spend heavily on tech (even tho 4 total was substantial) in hopes of getting gas or barrage tech that would have seriously increased the risk to Paris.
Feel bad for CP, as Entente has 3 propaganda already. The dice gods are on our side. There should be some consolation prize for rolling 4 dice in numerical order.

[Elrood]

@FMErwinRommel Game History

Round: 4

    Research Technology - France
            France roll 6,3,1 and gets 1 hit
        France removing all Technology Tokens after successful research.
        France discover railwayGuns

    Combat Move - France
        2 infantry moved from Brittany to Burgundy
        1 battleship moved from Sea Zone 27 Mid Atlantic to Sea Zone 25 Mid Atlantic
        1 battleship moved from Sea Zone 25 Mid Atlantic to Sea Zone 15 English Channel
        1 transport moved from Sea Zone 15 English Channel to Sea Zone 25 Mid Atlantic
        1 infantry moved from Brittany to Sea Zone 25 Mid Atlantic
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 25 Mid Atlantic to Sea Zone 15 English Channel
        1 infantry moved from Normandy to Sea Zone 15 English Channel
        2 infantry moved from Sea Zone 15 English Channel to Picardy
        1 fighter moved from Paris to Burgundy
        1 infantry moved from Franche-Comte to Burgundy
        1 field_gun moved from Paris to Picardy
        1 colonial, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 123 Banda Sea to Sea Zone 120 Arafura Sea
        1 colonial and 1 infantry moved from Sea Zone 120 Arafura Sea to Bismarck Islands
              France take Bismarck Islands from Germany
        1 cavalry moved from Uganda to British East Africa
              Britain take British East Africa from Germany
        1 cavalry moved from British East Africa to Italian Somaliland
              Italy take Italian Somaliland from Germany
        1 infantry moved from Congo to Rwanda
              France take Rwanda from Germany
        1 colonial and 1 field_gun moved from Tuscany to Milan
        1 infantry moved from Tuscany to Milan

    Purchase Units - France
        France buy 4 colonials, 4 heavy_guns, 9 infantry and 3 trenchs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Combat - France
        Battle in Picardy
            France attack with 1 field_gun and 2 infantry
            Germany defend with 2 infantry
                France roll dice for 1 battlecruiser and 1 battleship in Picardy, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Germany roll dice for 2 infantry in Picardy, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Germany and 1 infantry owned by the France lost in Picardy
            France win, taking Picardy from Germany with 1 field_gun and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for France: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germany: 2 infantry
        Battle in Milan
            France attack with 1 colonial, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry
            Austria defend with 1 infantry
                France roll dice for 1 colonial, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Milan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 infantry in Milan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                France roll dice for 1 colonial, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Milan, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 infantry in Milan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                France roll dice for 1 colonial, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Milan, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 infantry in Milan, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Austria lost in Milan
            France win, taking Milan from Austria with 1 colonial, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Austria: 1 infantry
        Battle in Burgundy
            France attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
            Germany defend with 2 infantry
                France roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Burgundy, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Germany roll dice for 2 infantry in Burgundy, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Germany and 2 infantry owned by the France lost in Burgundy
            France win, taking Burgundy from Germany with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for France: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Germany: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - France
        1 fighter moved from Burgundy to Paris
        1 infantry moved from Marseilles to Rhone
        2 infantry moved from Marseilles to Piedmont
        1 transport moved from Sea Zone 57 Ligurian Sea to Sea Zone 55 Western Mediterranean
        1 colonial and 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Sea Zone 55 Western Mediterranean
        1 colonial, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 55 Western Mediterranean to Sea Zone 57 Ligurian Sea
        1 colonial and 1 infantry moved from Sea Zone 57 Ligurian Sea to Piedmont
        1 colonial and 5 infantry moved from Tuscany to Piedmont
        2 colonials moved from Tobruk to Sea Zone 70 Eastern Mediterranean
        2 colonials moved from Sea Zone 70 Eastern Mediterranean to Cairo-Suez
        3 cavalrys moved from Uganda to Lower Egypt
        1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 120 Arafura Sea to Sea Zone 122 Bismarck Sea
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from Sea Zone 27 Mid Atlantic to Sea Zone 15 English Channel
        1 infantry moved from Normandy to Paris
        1 colonial and 1 infantry moved from Upper Volta to Niger

    Place Units - France
        4 heavy_guns, 4 infantry and 3 trenchs placed in Paris
        3 infantry placed in Marseilles
        2 infantry placed in Brittany
        2 colonials placed in Algiers
        2 colonials placed in Tobruk

    Activate Technology - France
        France activating railwayGuns
        Trigger FranceP: France has 3 infantry placed in Paris

    Turn Complete - France
        France collect 73 PUs; end with 73 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germany regular : 1,67
France regular : 0,67
Austria regular : -1,00

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[Elrood]

@Entek Game History

Round: 4

    Combat Move - Serbia
        1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Belgrade to Transylvania
        1 fighter moved from Belgrade to Serbia
        3 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 16 infantry moved from Belgrade to Serbia
        1 fighter moved from Serbia to Macedonia
        1 infantry moved from Albania to Macedonia
        4 infantry moved from Greece to Macedonia
        1 infantry moved from Greece to Macedonia

    Purchase Units - Serbia
        Serbia buy 6 infantry and 2 trenchs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat - Serbia
        Battle in Macedonia
            Serbia attack with 1 fighter and 6 infantry
            Austria defend with 3 infantry
                Serbia roll dice for 1 fighter and 6 infantry in Macedonia, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 3 infantry in Macedonia, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Austria lost in Macedonia
                Serbia roll dice for 1 fighter and 6 infantry in Macedonia, round 3 : 2/7 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 infantry in Macedonia, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Serbia and 1 infantry owned by the Austria lost in Macedonia
            Serbia win, taking Macedonia from Austria with 1 fighter and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Austria: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Serbia: 1 infantry
        Battle in Serbia
            Serbia attack with 3 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 16 infantry
            Austria defend with 1 infantry
                Serbia roll dice for 3 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 16 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 4/21 hits, 5,17 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Serbia and 1 infantry owned by the Austria lost in Serbia
            Serbia win, taking Serbia from Austria with 3 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 15 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Serbia: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Austria: 1 infantry
        Battle in Transylvania
            Serbia attack with 1 field_gun and 1 infantry
            Austria defend with 1 infantry
                Serbia roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Transylvania, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 infantry in Transylvania, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Serbia roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Transylvania, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 infantry in Transylvania, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Serbia and 1 infantry owned by the Austria lost in Transylvania
            Serbia win, taking Transylvania from Austria with 1 field_gun remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Serbia: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Austria: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Serbia
        1 fighter moved from Macedonia to Greece

    Place Units - Serbia
        1 infantry placed in Belgrade
        5 infantry and 2 trenchs placed in Greece

    Turn Complete - Serbia
        Serbia collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Serbia regular : -0,50
Austria regular : 0,67

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[FMErwinRommel]

@Entek Please wait on Austria until we discuss F/S

[Elrood]

@Entek ser4_edit.tsvg

edited a trench from Paris to Tobruk. Hope that is ok

[Witt]

@Elrood if it means , I can capture Paris more easily , definitely: thanks .

[Elrood]

@Witt yes… odds went from 1% up to a whooping 1,5%.

Good luck!

[Elrood]

Will be on vacation until end of June… so either someone takes over France or you just wait it out. Is fine either way.

[Entek]

@VictoryFirst Austria 4.tsvg

Game History

Round: 4

    Research Technology - Austria
            Austria roll 1,1,1 and gets 0 hits

    Combat Move - Austria
        1 infantry moved from Galicia to Odessa
        1 cavalry moved from Galicia to Odessa
        1 field_gun moved from Galicia to Odessa
        2 infantry moved from Venice to Milan
        1 field_gun moved from Venice to Milan
        1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Baranya to Belgrade
        4 gass moved from Hungary to Serbia
        1 infantry moved from Montenegro to Albania
              Austria take Albania from Serbia
        7 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 11 infantry moved from Baranya to Serbia
        1 fighter moved from Galicia to Odessa
        1 field_gun moved from Hungary to Transylvania
        1 infantry moved from Galicia to Transylvania
        1 infantry moved from Baranya to Serbia
        1 field_gun moved from Baranya to Serbia
        1 field_gun moved from Hungary to Transylvania

    Purchase Units - Austria
        Austria buy 2 cavalrys, 6 field_guns, 3 gass, 3 heavy_guns and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 3 techTokens; 

    Combat - Austria
        Battle in Belgrade
            Austria attack with 1 field_gun and 1 infantry
            Serbia defend with 1 Factory and 1 infantry
                Austria roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Belgrade, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Serbia roll dice for 1 infantry in Belgrade, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Belgrade, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Serbia roll dice for 1 infantry in Belgrade, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Serbia and 1 infantry owned by the Austria lost in Belgrade
            Austria win, taking Belgrade from Serbia with 1 field_gun remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Austria: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Serbia: 1 infantry
        Battle in Milan
            Austria attack with 1 field_gun and 2 infantry
            France defend with 1 colonial, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry
                Austria roll dice for 1 field_gun and 2 infantry in Milan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Italy roll dice for 1 colonial, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Milan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the France lost in Milan
                Austria roll dice for 1 field_gun and 2 infantry in Milan, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Italy roll dice for 1 colonial and 1 field_gun in Milan, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 colonial owned by the France lost in Milan
                Austria roll dice for 1 field_gun and 2 infantry in Milan, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Italy roll dice for 1 field_gun in Milan, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 field_gun and 2 infantry in Milan, round 5 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Italy roll dice for 1 field_gun in Milan, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 field_gun and 2 infantry in Milan, round 6 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Italy roll dice for 1 field_gun in Milan, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 field_gun and 2 infantry in Milan, round 7 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Italy roll dice for 1 field_gun in Milan, round 7 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Austria lost in Milan
                Austria roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Milan, round 8 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Italy roll dice for 1 field_gun in Milan, round 8 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Milan, round 9 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Italy roll dice for 1 field_gun in Milan, round 9 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 infantry in Milan, round 10 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Italy roll dice for 1 field_gun in Milan, round 10 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 field_gun owned by the France lost in Milan
            Austria win, taking Milan from Italy with 1 field_gun and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for France: 1 colonial, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry
            Casualties for Austria: 1 infantry
        Battle in Serbia
            Austria attack with 8 field_guns, 4 gass, 2 heavy_guns and 12 infantry
            Serbia defend with 3 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 15 infantry
                Austria roll dice for 4 gass in Serbia, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Serbia lost in Serbia
                4 gass owned by the Austria lost in Serbia
                Austria roll dice for 8 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 12 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 11/22 hits, 7.00 expected hits
                Serbia roll dice for 3 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 12 infantry in Serbia, round 2 : 9/17 hits, 6.33 expected hits
                11 infantry owned by the Serbia and 9 infantry owned by the Austria lost in Serbia
                Austria roll dice for 8 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 3 infantry in Serbia, round 3 : 4/13 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                Serbia roll dice for 3 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 1 infantry in Serbia, round 3 : 1/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Serbia, 3 field_guns owned by the Serbia and 1 infantry owned by the Austria lost in Serbia
                Austria roll dice for 8 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 2 infantry in Serbia, round 4 : 4/12 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                Serbia roll dice for 2 heavy_guns in Serbia, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                2 heavy_guns owned by the Serbia lost in Serbia
            Austria win, taking Serbia from Serbia with 8 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
            Casualties for Serbia: 3 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns and 15 infantry
            Casualties for Austria: 4 gass and 10 infantry
        Battle in Odessa
            Austria attack with 1 cavalry, 1 field_gun, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Russia defend with 1 conscript and 1 field_gun
                Austria roll dice for 1 cavalry, 1 field_gun, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Odessa, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Russia roll dice for 1 conscript and 1 field_gun in Odessa, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 field_gun owned by the Russia, 1 cavalry owned by the Austria, 1 conscript owned by the Russia and 1 infantry owned by the Austria lost in Odessa
            Austria win, taking Odessa from Russia with 1 field_gun and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
            Casualties for Austria: 1 cavalry and 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russia: 1 conscript and 1 field_gun
        Battle in Transylvania
            Austria attack with 2 field_guns and 1 infantry
            Serbia defend with 1 field_gun
                Austria roll dice for 2 field_guns and 1 infantry in Transylvania, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Serbia roll dice for 1 field_gun in Transylvania, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 2 field_guns and 1 infantry in Transylvania, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Serbia roll dice for 1 field_gun in Transylvania, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Austria roll dice for 2 field_guns and 1 infantry in Transylvania, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Serbia roll dice for 1 field_gun in Transylvania, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 field_gun owned by the Serbia and 1 infantry owned by the Austria lost in Transylvania
            Austria win, taking Transylvania from Serbia with 2 field_guns remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Austria: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Serbia: 1 field_gun

    Non Combat Move - Austria
        1 fighter moved from Odessa to Galicia
        6 infantry moved from Trieste to Venice

    Place Units - Austria
        1 heavy_gun and 5 infantry placed in Galicia
        3 gass placed in Hungary
        Austria undo move 1.
        2 heavy_guns and 4 infantry placed in Galicia
        1 field_gun, 1 heavy_gun and 2 infantry placed in Venice
        2 field_guns and 2 infantry placed in Trieste
        2 cavalrys and 2 infantry placed in Hungary
        3 field_guns placed in Vienna

    Turn Complete - Austria
        Austria collect 92 PUs; end with 92 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italy regular : -3.00
Serbia regular : 0.00
Austria regular : -1.67
Russia regular : 1.50

[FMErwinRommel]

@Elrood By the time we get to your next turn, it will be late June. We can wait. Enjoy

[Entek]

@VictoryFirst please wait to do Italy, I’ve got a ncm I need to do.

[Entek]

@VictoryFirst Please use this one edit Austria 4.tsvg

[Witt]

@Entek thank you .

[Witt]

@VictoryFirst please return one Austrian Inf to Galicia, from E Poland .
My friend , the Emperor of Austria , has been too generous!

[VictoryFirst]

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