MrRoboto (Allies+22) vs Simon33 (Axis) BM

[MrRoboto]

[dice 12d6<=3]

[dicebot]

12d6<=3: 1, 1, 3, 1, 4, 4, 4, 1, 4, 4, 2, 2; Hits: 7

[MrRoboto]

Oh my, I am so confused. Probably sleep deprived. Sorry man, please ignore everything - I rolled the rest already. So it’s you defense now!

you defend with

2 submarines
9 carriers
5 destroyers
1 cruiser
2 tacs
15 fighters
1 battleship

[dice 2d6<=1]
[dice 14d6<=2]
[dice 3d6<=3]
[dice 16d6<=4]

[dicebot]

2d6<=1: 4, 5; Hits: 0
14d6<=2: 1, 4, 6, 5, 6, 1, 3, 1, 3, 4, 4, 4, 2, 6; Hits: 4
3d6<=3: 4, 2, 6; Hits: 1
16d6<=4: 5, 1, 5, 4, 6, 3, 3, 2, 4, 6, 2, 6, 4, 1, 5, 2; Hits: 10

[MrRoboto]

15 hits overall.
I will lose 5 destroyers and 5 carriers

I continue with 21 subs, 12 fighters.
You defend with
1 healthy carrier
6 tipped carriers
1 destroyer
1 cruiser
2 tacs
1 tipped battleship
15 fighters

[dice 12d6<=2]
[dice 12d6<=3]

[dicebot]

12d6<=2: 4, 4, 5, 6, 5, 4, 6, 2, 6, 5, 1, 1; Hits: 3
12d6<=3: 3, 6, 4, 1, 1, 3, 3, 2, 3, 6, 5, 5; Hits: 7

[MrRoboto]

Please let me know your OOL, I scored 10 hits.

[simon33]

Keep the planes and the BB.

Dice are favouring you this battle.

[MrRoboto]

@simon33 said in MrRoboto (Allies+22) vs Simon33 (Axis) BM:

Dice are favouring you this battle.

In the first round, yes.
In the second round, my 21 subs and 12 fighters should have scored 13 hits, not 10.

Your defense:

[dice 8d6<=2]
[dice 3d6<=3]
[dice 16d<=4]

[dicebot]

8d6<=2: 4, 3, 4, 2, 4, 3, 1, 3; Hits: 2
3d6<=3: 2, 3, 1; Hits: 3

[MrRoboto]

[dice 16d6<=4]

[dicebot]

16d6<=4: 2, 6, 2, 6, 6, 5, 5, 1, 2, 3, 1, 1, 5, 4, 1, 4; Hits: 10

[MrRoboto]

You had 89 power, 14 5/6 hits on average and you scored 15 hits

Average!

I will retreat now, after losing another 15 subs.

6 subs and 12 fighters remaining.
You are left with 1 damaged battleship, 2 tacs and 15 fighters will land in Japan.

[MrRoboto]

TUV change is -2 by the way.

[MrRoboto]

You know what? I will lose 13 subs and 2 fighters instead, because they can’t land there.
TUV change is -10 then

[MrRoboto]

UK22.tsvg

Game History

Round: 22

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 3 artilleries, 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 2 fighters, 12 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        3 carriers, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters and 11 submarines moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 5 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters moved from 16 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Western United States to 6 Sea Zone
        7 artilleries, 1 fighter and 18 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
        1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Bulgaria
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
              Americans take Bryansk from Germans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Eastern Poland
              Americans take Eastern Poland from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
              Americans take Bessarabia from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Bulgaria
        1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium

    Combat - Americans
        Japanese scrambles 3 units out of Japan to defend against the attack in 6 Sea Zone
        Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits.  Rolls: 3
        Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits.  Rolls: 6
        Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits.  Rolls: 6
        Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits.  Rolls: 4
        Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits.  Rolls: 4
        Battle in 6 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 5 carriers, 5 destroyers, 12 fighters and 21 submarines; ANZAC loiter and taunt
            Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 9 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 15 fighters, 2 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports
                Americans roll dice for 21 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 9/21 hits, 7,00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 8 carriers owned by the Japanese and 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                Americans roll dice for 5 carriers, 5 destroyers and 12 fighters in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 8/17 hits, 7,67 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese
                Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Americans
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 9 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 15 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 17/33 hits, 16,83 expected hits
                3 submarines owned by the Americans, 5 destroyers owned by the Americans and 5 carriers owned by the Americans lost in 6 Sea Zone
                1 carrier owned by the Japanese, 4 destroyers owned by the Japanese and 2 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans roll dice for 18 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 7/18 hits, 6,00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 12 fighters in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 8/12 hits, 6,00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 8 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 15 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 16/28 hits, 15,17 expected hits
                16 submarines owned by the Americans lost in 6 Sea Zone
                2 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese, 3 fighters owned by the Japanese, 8 carriers owned by the Japanese, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 cruiser owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
            12 fighters owned by the Americans retreated
            2 submarines owned by the Americans retreated to 16 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 battleship, 12 fighters and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26
            Casualties for Americans: 5 carriers, 5 destroyers and 19 submarines
            Casualties for Japanese: 9 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers
        Battle in Bulgaria
            Americans attack with 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 18 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 armour, 12 artilleries and 12 infantry; Italians defend with 1 armour
                Americans roll dice for 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 18 infantry in Bulgaria, round 2 : 8/28 hits, 8,17 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 12 artilleries and 12 infantry in Bulgaria, round 2 : 10/26 hits, 9,00 expected hits
                10 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Bulgaria
                8 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bulgaria
                Americans roll dice for 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 8 infantry in Bulgaria, round 3 : 10/18 hits, 6,50 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 12 artilleries and 4 infantry in Bulgaria, round 3 : 5/18 hits, 6,33 expected hits
                5 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Bulgaria
                6 artilleries owned by the Germans and 4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bulgaria
                Americans roll dice for 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Bulgaria, round 4 : 7/13 hits, 5,00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 2 armour and 6 artilleries in Bulgaria, round 4 : 3/8 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Bulgaria
                6 artilleries owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Bulgaria
                Americans roll dice for 7 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Bulgaria, round 5 : 3/10 hits, 4,00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Bulgaria, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Bulgaria
                1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Bulgaria
            Americans win, taking Bulgaria from Italians with 6 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 38
            Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 18 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 12 artilleries and 12 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 armour
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Americans attack with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
            Americans win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Moving scrambled unit from 6 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Japan
        Moving scrambled unit from 6 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Japan
        Moving scrambled unit from 6 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Japan
            9 fighters owned by the Japanese forced to land in Japan

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Vologda from Germans to Americans
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 fighters could not land in 6 Sea Zone and were removed
        1 bomber moved from Bulgaria to Greece
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Bulgaria to Greece
        1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
        1 infantry moved from Urals to Vologda
        2 artilleries moved from Urals to Nenetsia
        2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from 107 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from 89 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 89 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone
        7 transports moved from 89 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Korea
        10 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
        1 carrier and 4 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Americans
        1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
        2 infantry placed in Western United States
        Americans undo move 2.
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
        2 fighters placed in Western United States
        Americans undo move 3.
        2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 6 infantry placed in Eastern United States
        Americans undo move 3.
        3 infantry placed in Caucasus
        3 infantry placed in Greece
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
        1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry placed in Eastern United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 19 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1
        Americans collect 73 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 73 PUs
        Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
        Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 93 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 98 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 103 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 16 Sea Zone: 2 submarines
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 19 Sea Zone: 8 submarines
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Japan: 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
              Chinese take Jehol from Japanese

    Combat - Chinese

    Non Combat Move - Chinese

    Place Units - Chinese
        1 infantry placed in Jehol

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 4 PUs; end with 5 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to West India
              UK_Pacific take West India from Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Greece to Albania
              British take Albania from Italians
        4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Romania

    Combat - British
        Battle in Romania
            British attack with 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry; Italians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in Romania, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2,67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Romania, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the British lost in Romania
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans, 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Romania
            British win with 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for British: 1 fighter
            Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        2 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Romania to Caucasus
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Caucasus
        5 infantry moved from Iraq to Persia
        6 infantry moved from Persia to Eastern Persia
        3 aaGuns, 9 artilleries, 15 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Persia to Turkmenistan
        1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
        3 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan

    Place Units - British
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Persia
        3 infantry placed in Iraq
        3 infantry placed in Egypt
        British undo move 3.
        2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 3 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs
        Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs
        Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs
        Objective British 2 Southern Europe Beach Head: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 46 PUs

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 9,33
Italians regular : 0,17
Japanese regular : 1,67
Germans regular : -0,33
British regular : 1,33

[simon33]

Oh it pains me to point this out but you made a typo in the subs roll. You rolled 12 dice and you should have rolled 21!

[simon33]

Are you able to retreat to SZ19? It’s a hostile sea zone, I wouldn’t have thought that was allowed, will check the rules.

Eur rules, p20:
Condition B—Attacker Retreats
The attacker (never the defender) can retreat during this
step. Move all attacking land and sea units in that combat
that are on the battle strip to a single adjacent friendly
space from which at least 1 of the attacking land or sea
unit involved in a successful battle.

Was going to continue with Italy but better not.

[simon33]

I didn’t see the need to resort to Forum dice here. Would have been easier with normal dice. Only if someone objects to sub casualties would you need to do that.

[MrRoboto]

Simon, you are a good sportsman! I never noticed that typo.

It doesn’t change much, though. I will kill the battleship and the transporters with the additional hits. Let’s roll it, just to be sure:

[dice 9d6<=2]

I never knew about that retreat rule, thanks for clarifying! Learned something new!!!

You are right, rolling on the forum would have been easier. However, I have been asked many times to roll big sea battles on the forum, because of the sub casualty situation.
And, more importantly, I am having a dispute with another player right now because of a big sea battle where we did not get MARTI Dice mails. So I wanted to make sure there is 100% transparency here.