that is you could play F/S until he does decide.
NML 1914 Team Game 9
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@FMErwinRommel I’m in
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@Elrood said in NML 1914 Team Game 9:
What if we tweak the game by activating technologies at the start of the inventing players next turn. That would need defensive techs and produce less of a stalemate potentially
You brought this up previously regarding delaying defensive tech to help CP. In that case, it wouldn’t make a noticeable difference most of the time. For Propaganda, it would mean a one time loss of 3 infantry. If Entente gets a defensive tech on a certain turn, it might make a diff if CP attacked on their next turn, but no effect thereafter.
If we apply delay to all techs, economic and naval, it would hurt both sides. Players would lose a few income on war bonds, for one turn. No big deal.
It’s not worth trying to edit that feature every time someone gets a tech (as Colt already said), for an unproven benefit.
What’s more significant is tech dice luck. In our team game, we’ve had Italy get Propaganda on turn 1 with 1 tech die; and C getting science on turn 1 with 1 tech die, and then getting averaging another tech every 1 1/2 turns on recurring free tech dice. -
Those examples were not in this team game, but in our earlier team games.
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@FMErwinRommel wem I don’t know, the game is inherently flawed… like all a&a based games I guess… that is why bidding exists.
If we want to balance the game for a sich a team game which brings its own volatility to it, then we could e.g. strengthen the minors and make the big ones weaker but such tweaks could lead to all sort of unforeseen consequences… I still think centrals are in disadvantage here, since the games promotes defense like no other and defense is what entente need to bring e.g. the resources of the Americans into play…
What if we decrease the number of trenches possible per territory per turn to 2 instead of 3. that would force to plan defense better instead of just getting 3 trenches if need be.
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@Elrood or we could prohibit defense techs.
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If G captures Paris by around turn 6, CP wins the game. If Paris holds by turn 7, G can’t ever take Paris and the game’s outcome depends on other theatres of operation.
The Turk bid addresses the UK/T theatre, but not the primary Paris/G battlefront. If G captures Paris, the game is over, CP wins. But this has to happen by turn 5 or 6 (max 7?) or it won’t happen at all. Paris has IC with 8 builds on the front line, plus trenches, Brittany builds and a defense tech by turn 4. G has to build expensive ICs, and it takes time to produce and send units to Paris. Cav & gas work early, but not as well with a big garrison. Tech luck is important on both sides.
Paris has held for most of our team games. And when it does, France helps Italy, Greece, and Cairo, but this doesn’t guarantee holding the line. France has fairly, high income, with western homeland France and West African colonies providing large, safe income stream.
Penalizing Paris early would increase fall of Paris and quick end to game. Current bid to T increases odds of quick conquest in Mecca and breakthrough in Cairo. But doesn’t guarantee CP victory.
What’s needed is some defensive limit, not so early in the game that Paris falls quickly too often, but that extends G’s chances on Paris well into midgame and thus limits France’s stalemating on Italian front, etc. As it is, USA arrives to late to save Paris, or isn’t needed by the time it can reach.
I suggest a cumulative max limit on # of trenches per territory (perhaps 12 or 15?). Or perhaps a stepped limit, say once a territory reaches say cumulative 12 or 15 trenches, it can only build 1 more trench per turn thereafter in that territory. This would favor T, perhaps allowing us to remove the T bid. -
@Elrood I’m in for another
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The advantage of a cumulative limit on trenches per territory is that there’s no editing needed. Players just know when to stop building them after a specific limit.
Paris gets normal early defense, but impregnable from continuing to build trenches. -
Not impregnable.
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I think we all said we were back in . Can someone roll dice , please ?
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Rolling for team game 10:
Captain Walker [dice 1d100]
Colt [dice 1d100]
dawgoneit [dice 1d100]
Elrood [dice 1d100]
Entek [dice 1d100]
FMERommel [dice 1d100]
Private-Panic [dice 1d100]
Witt [dice 1d100] -
1d100: 76
1d100: 72
1d100: 72
1d100: 27
1d100: 78
1d100: 64
1d100: 93
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5 players were closely packed with 2 tied at 72. Elrood, I am never taking you to Las Vegas, you’re at the bottom with 24. I’m never going to Las Vegas either, as I also continue to roll poorly.
colt [dice 1d100]
dawg [dice 1d100] -
1d100: 31
1d100: 37 -
@Private-Panic
Order of choosing for game 101 Private-Panic
2 Entek
3 Captain Walker
4 Witt
5 Dawg
6 Colt
7 FM Rommel
8 ElroodSince bidding might affect your decision, please choose:
1; Keep Turk bid as is with industry tech & 3 inf
2: No Turk bid
3: Limit cumulative trench total for any one territory to __? and eliminate current Turk bid. -
@FMErwinRommel :astonished:
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I am fine with Option 1 too.
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I’ll go with russia
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@captainwalker your choice
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