that is you could play F/S until he does decide.
NML 1914 Team Game 9
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@fmerwinrommel Allies can afford any gamble at this point
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@colt45554
Round: 6Research Technology - Russia Combat Move - Russia 3 conscripts moved from Primorsky to Khabarovsk 1 heavy_gun and 2 infantry moved from Vladivostok to Primorsky 2 heavy_guns moved from Omsk to Novosibirsk 1 conscript moved from Novosibirsk to Krasnoyarsk 1 conscript moved from Novosibirsk to Perm 1 conscript moved from Lithuania to Eastern Poland 4 cavalrys, 15 conscripts, 8 field_guns, 1 fighter, 4 heavy_guns and 8 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland 3 conscripts, 1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Belarus 2 heavy_guns and 1 infantry moved from Minsk to Belarus 3 conscripts moved from Don to Belarus 2 heavy_guns and 1 infantry moved from Kiev to Odessa 1 conscript moved from Moldavia to Odessa 1 heavy_gun moved from Odessa to Belarus 3 conscripts moved from Moscow to Don Purchase Units - Russia Russia buy 3 cavalrys, 2 conscripts, 5 field_guns, 2 fighters, 1 heavy_gun, 3 infantry and 7 trenchs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 3 techTokens; Combat - Russia Battle in Eastern Poland Russia attack with 4 cavalrys, 16 conscripts, 8 field_guns, 1 fighter, 4 heavy_guns and 8 infantry Germany defend with 7 field_guns, 3 heavy_guns, 17 infantry and 1 stormtruppen Russia win, taking Eastern Poland from Germany with 8 field_guns, 1 fighter, 4 heavy_guns and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 46 Casualties for Russia: 4 cavalrys, 16 conscripts and 1 infantry Casualties for Germany: 7 field_guns, 3 heavy_guns, 17 infantry and 1 stormtruppen Non Combat Move - Russia 1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus 1 infantry moved from Odessa to Belarus 1 heavy_gun moved from Odessa to Belarus 1 infantry moved from St. Petersburg to Pskov Place Units - Russia 2 fighters placed in Omsk 3 trenchs placed in Khabarovsk 1 heavy_gun and 2 infantry placed in Vladivostok 2 conscripts placed in St. Petersburg Russia undo move 3. Russia undo move 3. 1 conscript and 1 infantry placed in St. Petersburg 1 conscript, 1 heavy_gun and 1 infantry placed in Vladivostok 3 field_guns placed in Minsk 2 field_guns and 1 infantry placed in Kiev 3 cavalrys placed in Moscow 2 trenchs placed in Odessa 2 trenchs placed in Belarus Turn Complete - Russia Russia collect 88 PUs; end with 88 PUsTerritory Summary for Russia :
Amur : 1 conscript Belarus : 6 conscripts, 1 field_gun, 1 fighter, 4 heavy_guns, 3 infantry and 10 trenchs Caucasus : 3 conscripts, 1 field_gun, 2 infantry and 3 trenchs Chita : 1 conscript Chukotka : 1 conscript Don : 3 conscripts Eastern Poland : 8 field_guns, 4 heavy_guns and 7 infantry Evenkia : 1 conscript Finland : 4 conscripts, 1 field_gun, 2 heavy_guns, 5 infantry and 2 trenchs Khabarovsk : 6 conscripts, 2 field_guns and 5 trenchs Kiev : 1 Factory, 2 field_guns and 1 infantry Koryak : 2 trenchs Krasnoyarsk : 1 conscript Magadan : 1 conscript Minsk : 1 Factory and 3 field_guns Norilsk : 1 conscript Novosibirsk : 11 conscripts, 2 field_guns, 2 heavy_guns, 1 infantry and 3 trenchs Odessa : 11 conscripts, 1 field_gun, 3 heavy_guns, 4 infantry and 8 trenchs Omsk : 1 Factory and 2 fighters Perm : 1 conscript Primorsky : 1 heavy_gun and 2 infantry Pskov : 1 infantry St. Petersburg : 1 Factory, 5 conscripts, 2 heavy_guns, 3 infantry and 4 trenchs Vladivostok : 1 Factory, 1 conscript, 1 heavy_gun and 1 infantry Moscow : 1 flag, 1 Factory and 3 cavalrys Sea Zone 64 Sea of Azov : 1 battlecruiser and 1 cruiser Sea Zone 65 Caspian Sea : 1 transport Norway : 1 flag, 3 trenchsProduction/PUs Summary :
Germany : 122 / 128 France : 78 / 78 Serbia : 7 / 7 Austria : 91 / 94 Italy : 25 / 25 Arabia : 1 / 0 Turkey : 63 / 63 Britain : 97 / 99 Russia : 88 / 88 Communists : 29 / 29 USA : 68 / 73 -
@Colt45554 russia-6 UK edit.tsvg
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@Colt45554 FYI, the edit was just to change the placement of a single, new trench build.
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posting tomorrow
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Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Communists Communists spend 5 on tech rolls Communists rolls : 0/1 hits, 0.00 expected hits Combat Move - Communists 6 cavalrys moved from Bratsk to Evenkia Purchase Units - Communists Communists buy 5 cavalrys and 2 conscripts; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 1 techTokens; Combat - Communists Battle in Evenkia Communists attack with 6 cavalrys Russia defend with 1 conscript Communists roll dice for 6 cavalrys in Evenkia, round 2 : 0/6 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russia roll dice for 1 conscript in Evenkia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Communists roll dice for 6 cavalrys in Evenkia, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russia roll dice for 1 conscript in Evenkia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 conscript owned by the Russia lost in Evenkia Communists win, taking Evenkia from Russia with 6 cavalrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Russia: 1 conscript Non Combat Move - Communists 1 conscript moved from Tiksi to Bratsk 1 conscript moved from Yakutsk to Tiksi 5 conscripts, 1 field_gun, 1 heavy_gun and 1 infantry moved from Aldan to Bratsk 1 field_gun moved from Buryatia to Bratsk 1 conscript moved from Bratsk to Buryatia 3 field_guns moved from Irkutsk to Bratsk 1 conscript moved from Yakutsk to Aldan 3 conscripts and 1 field_gun moved from Yakutsk to Tiksi Place Units - Communists 5 cavalrys placed in Irkutsk 2 conscripts placed in Yakutsk Turn Complete - Communists Communists collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Communists rolls : 0.00 Communists regular : 0.00 Russia regular : -0.33commi-6.tsvg
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@entek Please edit UK build placement: remove trench Hong Kong and add to Singapore. Thanks
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Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - USA USA spend 5 on tech rolls USA rolls : 1/1 hits, 0.00 expected hits USA removing all Technology Tokens after successful research. USA discover armour Combat Move - USA 3 cavalrys, 1 field_gun, 2 gass and 1 infantry moved from Chihuahua to Monterrey 2 field_guns and 3 infantry moved from Texas to Monterrey 1 infantry moved from Great Plains to Texas 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 38 Gulf of Mexico to Sea Zone 37 Gulf of Mexico 1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Arkansas to Sea Zone 37 Gulf of Mexico 1 field_gun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 37 Gulf of Mexico to Sea Zone 38 Gulf of Mexico 1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Sea Zone 38 Gulf of Mexico to Monterrey 2 infantry moved from San Francisco to Sea Zone 147 Gulf of California 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 147 Gulf of California to Sea Zone 149 Pacific Ocean 2 infantry moved from Sea Zone 149 Pacific Ocean to Wake Island 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from Sea Zone 145 Pacific Ocean to Sea Zone 149 Pacific Ocean 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 29 Mid Atlantic to Sea Zone 32 Sargasso Sea 4 cavalrys moved from Charleston to Arkansas Purchase Units - USA USA buy 2 Factorys, 1 field_gun, 2 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 transport and 1 trench; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 0 techTokens; Non Combat Move - USA 1 destroyer moved from Sea Zone 14 Helgoland Bight to Sea Zone 13 Skagerrak 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from Sea Zone 52 Mid Atlantic to Sea Zone 49 Mid Atlantic Place Units - USA 1 Factory and 1 trench placed in Manila 1 Factory placed in California 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in Sea Zone 153 Pacific Ocean 1 field_gun and 1 infantry placed in San Francisco 1 infantry placed in Charleston Activate Technology - USA USA activating armour Trigger USAT5: buytank added to productionUSA Turn Complete - USA USA collect 68 PUs; end with 69 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@entek cbf504b1-15c5-4849-8fb2-0ae2c2aca2ce-Germany 7.tsvg
Game History
Round: 7 Research Technology - Germany Germany spend 5 on tech rolls Germany rolls : 0/1 hits, 0.00 expected hits Combat Move - Germany 2 field_guns, 2 infantry and 2 stormtruppens moved from Rhine to Belgium 4 infantry moved from Wurttemburg to Alsace 3 fighters moved from Rhine to Alsace 5 field_guns and 2 infantry moved from Wurttemburg to Rhine 4 stormtruppens moved from Westphalia to Rhine 2 field_guns moved from Holstein to Hanover 1 infantry moved from Mecklenburg to Hanover 7 infantry and 4 stormtruppens moved from Galicia to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from East Prussia to Eastern Poland 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea to Sea Zone 11 Baltic Sea 1 stormtruppen moved from West Prussia to Sea Zone 11 Baltic Sea 1 stormtruppen and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 11 Baltic Sea to Sea Zone 9 Gulf of Bothnia 1 stormtruppen moved from Sea Zone 9 Gulf of Bothnia to Estonia Germany take Estonia from Russia 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea to Sea Zone 11 Baltic Sea 1 stormtruppen moved from West Prussia to Sea Zone 11 Baltic Sea 1 stormtruppen moved from Sea Zone 11 Baltic Sea to Lithuania Germany take Lithuania from Russia 1 infantry moved from Holstein to Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea to Sea Zone 9 Gulf of Bothnia 1 infantry moved from Sea Zone 9 Gulf of Bothnia to Latvia Germany take Latvia from Russia 1 stormtruppen moved from Holstein to Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea 1 field_gun moved from Denmark to Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea 1 field_gun, 1 stormtruppen and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea to Sea Zone 9 Gulf of Bothnia 1 field_gun and 1 stormtruppen moved from Sea Zone 9 Gulf of Bothnia to Pskov 1 destroyer moved from Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea to Sea Zone 9 Gulf of Bothnia 2 stormtruppens moved from Silesia to Western Poland 4 stormtruppens moved from Berlin to Brandenburg 2 stormtruppens moved from Berlin to Saxony 3 field_guns and 3 infantry moved from Bavaria to Bohemia 1 zeppelin moved from Venice to Piedmont Purchase Units - Germany Germany buy 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 field_guns, 3 heavy_guns, 11 infantry, 10 stormtruppens and 3 trenchs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 1 techTokens; Combat - Germany Strategic bombing raid in Piedmont France roll AA dice in Piedmont : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Piedmont rolls: 2 and causes: 2 damage to unit: Factory Bombing raid in Piedmont causes 2 damage total. Battle in Eastern Poland Germany attack with 8 infantry and 4 stormtruppens Russia defend with 8 field_guns, 4 heavy_guns and 7 infantry Germany roll dice for 8 infantry and 4 stormtruppens in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 3/12 hits, 2.67 expected hits Russia roll dice for 8 field_guns, 4 heavy_guns and 7 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 12/19 hits, 8.33 expected hits 4 stormtruppens owned by the Germany, 8 infantry owned by the Germany and 3 infantry owned by the Russia lost in Eastern Poland Russia win with 8 field_guns, 4 heavy_guns and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -27 Casualties for Germany: 8 infantry and 4 stormtruppens Casualties for Russia: 3 infantry Battle in Alsace Germany attack with 3 fighters and 4 infantry France defend with 3 infantry Germany roll dice for 3 fighters and 4 infantry in Alsace, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits France roll dice for 3 infantry in Alsace, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the France lost in Alsace Germany win, taking Alsace from France with 3 fighters and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for France: 3 infantry Battle in Belgium Germany attack with 2 field_guns, 2 infantry and 2 stormtruppens Britain defend with 1 Factory, 3 infantry and 3 trenchs Germany roll dice for 2 field_guns, 2 infantry and 2 stormtruppens in Belgium, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits Units damaged: 1 trench owned by the Britain Britain roll dice for 3 infantry and 3 trenchs in Belgium, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germany roll dice for 2 field_guns, 2 infantry and 2 stormtruppens in Belgium, round 3 : 1/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits Units damaged: 1 trench owned by the Britain Britain roll dice for 3 infantry and 3 trenchs in Belgium, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germany lost in Belgium 2 field_guns owned by the Germany and 2 stormtruppens owned by the Germany retreated to Rhine Britain win with 3 infantry and 3 trenchs remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Germany: 2 infantry Battle in Pskov Germany attack with 1 field_gun and 1 stormtruppen Russia defend with 1 infantry Germany roll dice for 1 field_gun and 1 stormtruppen in Pskov, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russia roll dice for 1 infantry in Pskov, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russia lost in Pskov Germany win, taking Pskov from Russia with 1 field_gun and 1 stormtruppen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russia: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germany 3 fighters moved from Alsace to Rhine 1 infantry moved from Palau to Sea Zone 131 Pacific Ocean 2 battlecruisers, 2 cruisers, 1 infantry, 3 submarines and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 131 Pacific Ocean to Sea Zone 126 Java Sea 1 submarine moved from Sea Zone 103 South Atlantic to Sea Zone 105 Pacific Ocean 1 zeppelin moved from Piedmont to Venice Place Units - Germany 2 heavy_guns and 3 trenchs placed in Warsaw 1 field_gun and 5 infantry placed in Wurttemburg Germany undo move 2. 2 field_guns and 4 infantry placed in Wurttemburg 1 heavy_gun and 5 infantry placed in Bavaria 10 stormtruppens placed in Berlin 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers placed in Sea Zone 12 Baltic Sea 2 infantry placed in Mecklenburg Turn Complete - Germany Germany collect 132 PUs; end with 132 PUs 2 units repaired.Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germany regular : 0.33 France regular : -1.00 Germany rolls : 0.00 France AA : -0.17 Russia regular : 3.33 Britain regular : 0.00 -
@Elrood
Game HistoryRound: 7 Research Technology - France France spend 5 on tech rolls France rolls : 0/1 hits, 0.00 expected hits Combat Move - France 4 colonials moved from Franche-Comte to Alsace 1 fighter moved from Franche-Comte to Alsace 1 infantry moved from Champagne to Alsace Purchase Units - France France buy 1 cavalry, 3 colonials, 1 destroyer, 2 field_guns, 1 fighter, 2 gass, 2 heavy_guns, 6 infantry and 1 trench; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 1 techTokens; Combat - France Battle in Alsace France attack with 4 colonials, 1 fighter and 1 infantry Germany defend with 4 infantry France roll dice for 4 colonials, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Alsace, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits Germany roll dice for 4 infantry in Alsace, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Germany, 1 colonial owned by the France and 1 infantry owned by the France lost in Alsace France roll dice for 3 colonials and 1 fighter in Alsace, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Germany roll dice for 1 infantry in Alsace, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germany and 1 colonial owned by the France lost in Alsace France win, taking Alsace from Germany with 2 colonials and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for France: 2 colonials and 1 infantry Casualties for Germany: 4 infantry Non Combat Move - France 1 fighter moved from Alsace to Franche-Comte 1 cavalry moved from Paris to Franche-Comte 10 infantry moved from Paris to Champagne 1 field_gun and 2 infantry moved from Marseilles to Piedmont 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 57 Ligurian Sea to Sea Zone 55 Western Mediterranean 2 colonials moved from Algiers to Sea Zone 55 Western Mediterranean 2 colonials and 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 55 Western Mediterranean to Sea Zone 57 Ligurian Sea 2 colonials moved from Sea Zone 57 Ligurian Sea to Piedmont 2 colonials moved from Tobruk to Sea Zone 70 Eastern Mediterranean 2 cavalrys moved from Lower Egypt to Cairo-Suez 2 colonials moved from Sea Zone 70 Eastern Mediterranean to Cairo-Suez 1 transport moved from Sea Zone 80 Indian Ocean to Sea Zone 73 Arabian Sea Place Units - France 1 destroyer placed in Sea Zone 70 Eastern Mediterranean 1 colonial placed in Tobruk 2 colonials placed in Algiers 1 infantry and 1 trench placed in Yanaon 1 heavy_gun and 2 infantry placed in Marseilles 2 field_guns and 1 heavy_gun placed in Champagne 1 cavalry, 1 fighter, 2 gass and 3 infantry placed in Paris Activate Technology - France Trigger FranceP: France has 3 infantry placed in Paris Turn Complete - France France collect 78 PUs; end with 78 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@Elrood
Game HistoryRound: 7 Purchase Units - Serbia Serbia buy 1 infantry and 1 trench; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Non Combat Move - Serbia Place Units - Serbia 1 infantry and 1 trench placed in Greece Turn Complete - Serbia Serbia collect 7 PUs; end with 8 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@Private-Panic
Game HistoryRound: 7 Research Technology - Austria Austria roll 6,4,5,3 and gets 1 hit Austria removing all Technology Tokens after successful research. Austria discover workingWomen Combat Move - Austria 3 field_guns, 1 fighter, 6 heavy_guns and 24 infantry moved from Galicia to Eastern Poland Purchase Units - Austria Austria buy 28 infantry and 3 trenchs; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 0 techTokens; Combat - Austria Battle in Eastern Poland Austria attack with 3 field_guns, 1 fighter, 6 heavy_guns and 24 infantry Russia defend with 8 field_guns, 4 heavy_guns and 4 infantry Austria roll dice for 3 field_guns, 1 fighter, 6 heavy_guns and 24 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 9/34 hits, 9,00 expected hits Russia roll dice for 8 field_guns, 4 heavy_guns and 4 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 3/16 hits, 7,33 expected hits 5 field_guns owned by the Russia, 4 infantry owned by the Russia and 3 infantry owned by the Austria lost in Eastern Poland 1 fighter owned by the Austria retreated 3 field_guns owned by the Austria, 21 infantry owned by the Austria and 6 heavy_guns owned by the Austria retreated to Galicia Russia win with 3 field_guns and 4 heavy_guns remaining. Battle score for attacker is 23 Casualties for Austria: 3 infantry Casualties for Russia: 5 field_guns and 4 infantry Non Combat Move - Austria 1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Galicia 4 infantry moved from Transylvania to Galicia 3 infantry moved from Hungary to Transylvania 1 infantry moved from Serbia to Albania 2 field_guns and 2 infantry moved from Serbia to Macedonia 2 field_guns and 2 infantry moved from Belgrade to Serbia 2 infantry moved from Venice to Milan 3 field_guns and 3 infantry moved from Trieste to Venice 1 infantry moved from Venice to Milan Place Units - Austria 6 infantry and 3 trenchs placed in Galicia 4 infantry placed in Venice 6 infantry placed in Trieste 4 infantry placed in Belgrade 7 infantry placed in Hungary 1 infantry placed in Vienna Activate Technology - Austria Austria activating workingWomen Trigger AustriaT1: buyfield_gun_w added to productionAustria Trigger AustriaT1: buyheavy_gun_w added to productionAustria Trigger AustriaT1: buyfield_gun removed from productionAustria Trigger AustriaT1: buyheavy_gun removed from productionAustria Trigger AustriaT1: buygas_w added to productionAustria Trigger AustriaT1: buyfighter_w added to productionAustria Trigger AustriaT1: buygas removed from productionAustria Trigger AustriaT1: buyfighter removed from productionAustria Trigger AustriaS: Austria met a national objective for an additional 1 techTokens; end with 1 techTokens Turn Complete - Austria Austria collect 91 PUs; end with 92 PUs Austria collect 7 PUs from War Bonds; end with 99 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 7 Research Technology - Italy Italy spend 0 on tech rolls Italy roll 1,2 and gets 0 hits Purchase Units - Italy Italy repair damage of 2x Factory; Remaining resources: 23 PUs; 2 techTokens; Italy buy 1 heavy_gun, 5 infantry and 1 trench; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 2 techTokens; Non Combat Move - Italy 1 field_gun and 2 infantry moved from Piedmont to Tuscany 1 infantry moved from Rome to Sea Zone 57 Ligurian Sea 1 infantry moved from Sea Zone 57 Ligurian Sea to Tuscany Place Units - Italy 1 heavy_gun and 2 infantry placed in Piedmont 1 trench placed in Tuscany 3 infantry placed in Rome Turn Complete - Italy Italy collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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I’m leaving on Saturday and will be back on Wednesday or Thursday.
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@dawgoneit have a good time away.
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@dawgoneit said in NML 1914 Team Game 9:
I’m leaving on Saturday and will be back on Wednesday or Thursday.
No doubt on an inspection tour of the Heer (army) and Kriegsmarine (navy).
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@fmerwinrommel said in NML 1914 Team Game 9:
@dawgoneit said in NML 1914 Team Game 9:
I’m leaving on Saturday and will be back on Wednesday or Thursday.
No doubt on an inspection tour of the Heer (army) and Kriegsmarine (navy).
Not much to inspect at this stage! duck
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@dawgoneit have a pleasant trip! :+1: :blush:
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When I was growing up, I knew a very nice man who had emigrated to the U.S. from Germany sometime after WWII. As a youth, he was a sailor in the Kriegsmarine, on a mine sweeper in the Adriatic during WWII. He survived a Russian POW camp.
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Of course, he never spoke of this himself, it came out in his obituary by his son.
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