very true.
As A&A makes no rule for collapsed defenses, an atomic bomb drop, under any other conditions, against an enemy of any potency, would still suffer teh same flak and interceptor attacks as any other strategic bombing.
Famous WW2 quotes needed
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@Young:
Did Yamamoto really say that he was looking forward to dictating peace with America at the White House in Washington… or was that just US propaganda?
Actually, it’s neither. Yamamoto once wrote a letter in which he argued that defeating the US was not going to be easy; in it, he said that if Japan was going to go to war against the US it had better be prepared to fight a war that could only be won if Japan got all the way to Washington and dictated peace terms in the White House. Yamamoto’s enemies in the Japanese Army quoted his letter out of context to give the impression that Yamamoto was planning to dictate peace terms in the White House. The Americans grabbed onto the Army’s version of the text and used it in their propaganda, apparently unaware that Yamamoto was being misquoted by his own fellow Japanese officers.
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" Until face to face with the enemy, who inexorably advanced well protected toward sure prey, they cried with the last spark of life, ‘Long Live Italy!’ "
- Marshal Rodolfo Graziani
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OK, thanks… The Yamamoto quote provided by Trenacker seems to be the best, and that Italian quote seems to be the best Non-Mussolini quote. Anything, good from ANZAC… all the really good ones seem to be from WW1.
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“We’re not here to take it, we’re here to give it.”
- Lieutenant General Sir Leslie James Morshead, commander of the 9th Australian Division at Tobruk, after hearing of a British propaganda article entitled “Tobruk can take it!”
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“This time the Kraut’s stuck his head in the meat grinder, and I’ve got hold of the handle.”
- George S. Patton, during the Battle of the Bulge
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@CWO:
“We’re not here to take it, we’re here to give it.”
- Lieutenant General Sir Leslie James Morshead, commander of the 9th Australian Division at Tobruk, after hearing of a British propaganda article entitled “Tobruk can take it!”
That’s the one… but DAM, the name is longer than the quote itself  :lol:
…Although a few rude boys drinking beers around the game table might taught the ANZAC player
“Ohhh, you like to give it do ya?”
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@CWO:
“This time the �����’s stuck his head in the meat grinder, and I’ve got hold of the handle.”
- George S. Patton, during the Battle of the Bulge
That’s good… but I still like the first one from Patton for what I’m trying to achieve.
“A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week” - George S. Patton
It’s got a great fortune cookie vibe to it :lol:
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I gave Morshead’s full name and title because he’s not as famous as officers like Patton and Montgomery. An even more extreme quote-to-name ratio can be found in Brigadier General Anthony McAuliffe’s one-worder “Nuts!” (There was a somewhat fictionalized version of this historical event in a movie in which McAuliffe delivers his famous statement verbally to some German envoys, who look at each other in puzzlement, then turn back to McAuliffe; one of them says, “What is this ‘Nuts’? I do not understand.” McAuliffe retorts, “Do you understand ‘Go to hell’, son?” The German nods and answers, “Ja, that I understand.”)
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@CWO:
I gave Morshead’s full name and title because he’s not as famous as officers like Patton and Montgomery.�  An even more extreme quote-to-name ratio can be found in Brigadier General Anthony McAuliffe’s one-worder "Nuts!"�  (There was a somewhat fictionalized version of this historical event in a movie in which McAuliffe delivers his famous statement verbally to some German envoys, who look at each other in puzzlement, then turn back to McAuliffe; one of them says, "What is this ‘Nuts’?�  I do not understand."�  McAuliffe retorts, “Do you understand ‘Go to hell’, son?” The German nods and answers, “Ja, that I understand.”)
How is Lieutenant General abbreviated, and was he Sir during the war… or was he knighted afterwards?
The best ANZAC quotes are from WW1…
“I can’t surrender, I’m in command of Australians… and they would cut my throat if I dared”
- Unknown
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@Young:
How is Lieutenant General abbreviated, and was he Sir during the war… or was he knighted afterwards?
You may not need to include everything; it depends on what consistent practice you’ll be using for the other people you’re quoting. Bernard L. Montgomery, for example, was known in full as Field Marshal Bernard Law Montgomery, 1st Viscount Montgomery of Alamein – and that’s even leaving out his KG, GCB, DSO and PC designations. A good standard form to use for everyone would be simply rank + commonly used form of name (including initials as just initials), without any knighthoods.
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@CWO:
@Young:
How is Lieutenant General abbreviated, and was he Sir during the war… or was he knighted afterwards?
You may not need to include everything; it depends on what consistent practice you’ll be using for the other people you’re quoting. Bernard L. Montgomery, for example, was known in full as Field Marshal Bernard Law Montgomery, 1st Viscount Montgomery of Alamein – and that’s even leaving out his KG, GCB, DSO and PC designations. A good standard form to use for everyone would be simply rank + commonly used form of name (including initials as just initials), without any knighthoods.
Than I might need help with the ranks once I lock down all the quotes.
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These are the US Army abbreviations…
2LT 1LT CPT MAJ LTC COL BG MG LTG GEN GA
…for these ranks:
Second Lieutenant
First Lieutenant
Captain
Major
Lieutenant Colonel
Colonel
Brigadier General
Major General
Lieutenant General
General
General of the ArmyThese are the US Navy abbreviations…
ENS LTJG LT LCDR CDR CAPT RDML RADM VADM ADM FADM
…for these ranks:
Ensign
Lieutenant (junior grade)
Lieutenant
Lieutenant Commander
Commander
Captain
Rear Admiral (lower half)
Rear Admiral
Vice Admiral
Admiral
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slightly off topic, but if you search for 15 quotes from Gen. Mad Dog Mattis, slayer of bodies, some of them are pretty funny
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As YG has noted, there are plenty of rousing Italian military phrases available for the WWII period if we go by Mussolini alone (I once read an amusing one-liner that said “If slogans could win a war by themselves, Italy will be a world power”), but apparently not much if we look in the direction of generals and admirals. One compromise solution might be to quote General Giulio Douhet, one of his era’s greatest experts on aerial warfare in general and strategic bombing in particular. I’ve copied below various quotes from him; I particularly like the first one, which sounds like something Clausewitz might have said. From the point of view of YG’s project requirements, however, there’s the potential problem that Douhet was mainly a theorist and that he died in 1930. On the other hand, if nothing better can be found, he might do.
Victory smiles upon those who anticipate the change in the character of war, not upon those who wait to adapt themselves after the changes occur.
- Giulio Douhet
To conquer the command of the air means victory; to be beaten in the air means defeat and acceptance of whatever terms the enemy may be pleased to impose.
- Giulio Douhet
The one effective method of defending one’s own territory from an offensive by air is to destroy the enemy’s air power with the greatest possible speed.
- Giulio Douhet
Тhe battlefield in the air will be the decisive one
- Giulio Douhet
Because of its independence of surface limitations and its superior speed the airplane is the offensive weapon par excellence.
- Giulio Douhet
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For ANZAC, you may want to consider a few quotes from Australia’s wartime prime minister John Curtin, for example:
“The game is not lost - or won - until the last bell goes.”
“Is not Anzac day a day that breathes the very soul of freedom?”
(and there’s more to be found)
While you specifically mention not needing anything for China (and how about France btw?), here are a few good ones from Chiang-Kai Shek:
“War is not only a matter of equipment, artillery, group troops or air force; it is largely a matter of spirit, or morale.”
and, especially applicable to A&A:
“Give me fifty DC-3’s and the Japanese can have the Burma Road.”
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- I need something for the ANZAC card but everything I find was said in WW1
That’s not a knife… this is a knife mate" Crocodile Dundee
- I need something for the Italy card but most of what’s documented came from Mussolini
“Manga. My Pizza is the best.salute”
- I want something from Yamamoto for the Japan card, but most of his quotes seem pessimistic toward the Japanese situation
" We go China east-side, but i think we’ll be taking a trip to the west-side" —Mo Howard
in jest
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Another from Robert Menzies for the ANZAC, this one from September 1939:
“There can be no doubt that where Great Britain stands, there stands the people of the entire British world.”
I pulled my copy of Hitler’s Italian Allies, so I’ll search that and try to get you something useful for the Italians.
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Young Grasshopper, here is the result of my scanning the book Hitler’s Italian Allies, by MacGregor Knox.
From Mussolini: “Either war, or let’s end this commedia of a great power.”
“Men, our indisputable resource.” - General Armando Diax, 1923
“The tank is a powerful tool, but let us not idolize it; let us reserve our reverence for the infantryman and the mule.” - General Parani, 1937
There is not much else of value in there for optimistic-sounding quotes, I think, given that the thesis is that Italian industry, society, and high command were totally unprepared for war.
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The best quote of the war should be represented even if it doesn’t apply for your cards.
When the Germans asked the 101 st Airborne to surrender at Bastogne, McAuliffe replied “NUTS”.
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