VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe OOB, Game 2


  • TUV Differential / Net TUV - Round 1

    G1
    Eastern Front: +2.92 / +18
    Atlantic/WA: +31.64 / +88
    Total: +34.56 / +106

    Allied1
    Eastern Front: -0.17 / +6
    Atlantic/WA: +35.33 / +80
    Total: +35.16 / +86

    As far as I can remember this one of the best German openers I’ve ever had. So even though the end result is most likely set in stone, you can still show me your Allied strategy.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 armour, 1 fighter and 3 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 armour moved from Hungary to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 fighter moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Germans take Karelia from Russians
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Baltic States to East Poland
            2 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
            2 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
            1 submarine moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                  Germans take U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Americans
            1 submarine moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone
                  Germans take U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone from Americans
            1 battleship moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to British Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                  Germans take British Convoy 2 Sea Zone from British
            1 destroyer moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to British Convoy 1 Sea Zone
                  Germans take British Convoy 1 Sea Zone from British
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Morocco
            2 submarines moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone
                  Germans take Soviet Convoy Sea Zone from Russians
            1 fighter moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in South Atlantic Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 transport
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 1 transport in South Atlantic Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/0 hits, 0,00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 transport in South Atlantic Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the Germans retreated to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans attack with 4 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 5 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 7 infantry
                    Russians roll AA dice in Ukraine S.S.R. : 1/4 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 5 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 6/13 hits, 5,00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 7 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 5/13 hits, 4,50 expected hits
                    5 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    5 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 5/8 hits, 4,00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 2/7 hits, 2,67 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 armour owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 4/6 hits, 3,17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 fighter in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    2 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    1 fighter owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans winAmericans win with 1 transport remaining, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                Casualties for Germans: 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 5 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 7 infantry
            Battle in Morocco
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Americans defend with 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Morocco
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Morocco
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Morocco, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Morocco
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Morocco
                Germans win, taking Morocco from Americans with 1 armour and 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Battle in East Poland
                Germans attack with 5 armour, 4 artilleries and 10 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 4 artilleries and 10 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 6/19 hits, 6,17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in East Poland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland
                    1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in East Poland
                Germans win, taking East Poland from Russians with 5 armour, 4 artilleries and 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 aaGun moved from Poland to East Poland
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary
            20 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 transport moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Danish Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Poland
            3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Austria to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
            1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Poland
            EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Morocco
    
        Place Units - Germans
            14 infantry placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 45 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0,83
    Russians regular : 1,50
    Germans regular : 2,17
    Russians AA : 0,33
    

    Savegame


  • @VictoryFirst 9ed175dd-1766-4ea6-817a-d84ff0d29403-image.png

    I know you typically submerge in naval combat but I am asking here in case you wanted to attempt to deny me the 4 IPC. USSR missed. Will Germany submerge or fight?


  • @DoManMacgee

    In this case, the Germans will fight to the death.


  • @VictoryFirst KK.

    I forgot to declare a combat move, so I am resolving it here via the dice-roller:
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    Soviets attack Germans in Karelia:
    Soviet Attack:
    [dice 5d6<=1]
    [dice 2d6<=2]

    Germans Defend:
    [dice 1d6<=2]


  • 5d6<=1: 6, 1, 1, 2, 4; Hits: 2
    2d6<=2: 4, 6; Hits: 0
    1d6<=2: 6; Hits: 0


  • @VictoryFirst Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 armour, 1 artillery and 11 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 submarine and 1 transport moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 12 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun and 1 armour
                    Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery and 12 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 3/15 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 12 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour
            Battle in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Germans defend with 2 submarines
                    Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 transport in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone
                    Russians roll dice for 1 transport in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 transport in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone
                Russians win, taking Soviet Convoy Sea Zone from Germans with 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
                Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Karelia: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Karelia from Germans to Russians
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Russia to Karelia
            1 aaGun moved from Russia to Moscow
            13 infantry moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
            1 aaGun moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
            1 aaGun moved from Belorussia to Stalingrad
    
        Place Units - Russians
            7 infantry placed in Stalingrad
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 24 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -1.67
    Russians regular : 0.17
    

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 carriers; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Karelia
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Syria to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 armour moved from Libya to Tunisia
                  British take Tunisia from Germans
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
            1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Western Mediterranean Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Baltic Sea Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber
                Germans defend with 1 transport
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber in Baltic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 transport in Baltic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber in Baltic Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 transport in Baltic Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 bomber owned by the British lost in Baltic Sea Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the Germans lost in Baltic Sea Sea Zone
                Germans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
                Casualties for British: 1 bomber
                Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
    
        Non Combat Move - British
    
        Place Units - British
            2 carriers placed in Atlantic Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 11 PUs; end with 16 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 0.67
    British regular : -0.33
    

    Game History

    Round: 2
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 9 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Baltic States
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Atlantic Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from United States to Atlantic Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Azores Sea Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Baltic States
                Americans attack with 1 bomber
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Ukraine S.S.R.
    
        Place Units - Americans
            3 fighters placed in United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 30 PUs; end with 39 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : 0.33
    Germans regular : -0.33
    

    AAE-game13-A2.tsvg

    In case you’re concerned with my current moves, my proposed “altered strategy” was effectively ruined by how disastrous the German opener was (I intentionally gave you 70% @ Ukraine with the hopes that you would not attempt to take it). I am more or less flying by the seat of my pants at this point in the hope that the dice turn around somewhere.

    I’m sure you were already expecting this, but I am going to ask for a do-over once the dust settles on this one.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 9 armour; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            5 armour, 4 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 fighter moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 fighters moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 battleship moved from British Convoy 2 Sea Zone to Azores Sea Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from British Convoy 1 Sea Zone to Azores Sea Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone to Azores Sea Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone to Azores Sea Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Azores Sea Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Azores Sea Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in Azores Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 transport owned by the Americans lost in Azores Sea Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans attack with 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 9 infantry
                British defend with 1 fighter; Americans defend with 1 bomber; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery and 12 infantry
                    Russians roll AA dice in Ukraine S.S.R. : 1/4 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 9 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 5/21 hits, 7,67 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 12 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 5/17 hits, 5,83 expected hits
                    5 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    4 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 4 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 8/16 hits, 6,83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 8 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 6/12 hits, 4,33 expected hits
                    2 artilleries owned by the Germans and 4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    8 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 7/10 hits, 4,83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 fighter in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 1/4 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    2 armour owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Russians and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26
                Casualties for Germans: 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 armour, 1 artillery and 12 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 artillery and 21 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
            17 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
            2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Poland
    
        Place Units - Germans
            9 armour placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : 0,17
    Germans regular : 1,00
    Russians AA : 0,33
    

    Savegame


  • I can understand the Allies are not having a fun time this game. The Germans are now walking over a red carpet to Moscow lol. Thats why I suggest for the next game we start from this save file.

    Atlantic Fiasco.tsvg

    As the name suggests, it’s basically a G1 that has a more or less average EF, but a terrible Atlantic. This happened in my sixth game against TGC. Playing as the Allies, I was able to bring the Moscow odds to something around 65% I believe. Then we switched sides starting from the same save file and he also brought the Moscow odds to something like that.

    So now I am curious if you can bring the Moscow odds lower than us with your fighter shuck strategy.


  • @VictoryFirst Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            13 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            7 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Karelia to Russia
            1 submarine and 1 transport moved from Soviet Convoy Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 20 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 5 armour and 1 artillery
                    Russians roll dice for 20 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 6/20 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour and 1 artillery in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    4 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans and 5 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 16 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 17
                Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 5 armour and 1 artillery
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 aaGun moved from Belorussia to Leningrad
    
        Place Units - Russians
            8 infantry placed in Stalingrad
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 2.00
    Russians regular : 2.67
    

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            2 carriers and 4 fighters moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
            1 transport moved from Western Mediterranean Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Tunisia to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Southern Italy
                  British take Southern Italy from Germans
            1 destroyer moved from Western Mediterranean Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 fighters moved from Karelia to Ukraine S.S.R.
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Algeria
                British attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Algeria
                    British roll dice for 1 armour in Algeria, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Algeria, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    1 armour owned by the British lost in Algeria
                Germans win with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - British
    
        Place Units - British
            2 transports placed in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 2.00
    British regular : -1.67
    

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Stalingrad: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Moscow: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            4 fighters moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Azores Sea Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from United States to Azores Sea Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Azores Sea Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 7 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport
                2 submarines owned by the Germans submerged
                    Americans roll dice for 7 fighters in Azores Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Azores Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Azores Sea Sea Zone
                    Americans roll dice for 6 fighters in Azores Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Azores Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in Azores Sea Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the Germans lost in Azores Sea Sea Zone
                    Americans roll dice for 4 fighters in Azores Sea Sea Zone, round 4 : 3/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 destroyer in Azores Sea Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in Azores Sea Sea Zone
                    1 battleship owned by the Germans and 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in Azores Sea Sea Zone
                Americans win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -16
                Casualties for Americans: 5 fighters
                Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            2 fighters moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            3 fighters placed in United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 30 PUs; end with 33 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -3.50
    Germans regular : 1.17
    

    071b3e52-35a5-4d4f-9792-573789ae8abd-AAE-game13-A3.tsvg

    After that round, I’m good to move on to the next game. No use playing this one out any further.

    @VictoryFirst said in VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe OOB, Game 2:

    Thats why I suggest for the next game we start from this save file.

    Atlantic Fiasco.tsvg

    As the name suggests, it’s basically a G1 that has a more or less average EF, but a terrible Atlantic.

    I appreciate the offer, but let’s start from scratch once this game ends. As strange as it sounds I have more fun playing around in these completely FUBAR (that saying might not resonate well with a non-native English speaker, sorry) situation than in completely on-rails ones. If this third game does not work out at all we can just play with TGC’s recommended balance to see how this strategy does in a more reasonable initial position.


  • OK, that’s fine with me. I’ll start a new OOB game in a second.

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