VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 1


  • @VictoryFirst Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 transport moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Karelia to Finland
                  Russians take Finland from Germans
            1 armour moved from Finland to Norway
                  Russians take Norway from Germans
            1 armour moved from Karelia to Moscow
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Turkestan
            1 fighter moved from Moscow to Turkestan
            1 submarine moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 32 infantry moved from Russia to Moscow
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Turkestan
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 fighter in Turkestan, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Turkestan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Turkestan
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Turkestan
                Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
                British loiter and taunt; Russians attack with 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 battleship
                1 submarine owned by the Russians submerged
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 fighter moved from Turkestan to Moscow
    
        Place Units - Russians
            7 infantry placed in Moscow
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 0.67
    Russians regular : 1.17
    

    UK/US turns in a bit. Have something else I need to take care of and I am going to need to manually roll for the British/Soviets attacking the German Battleship (they fight together as per Europe’s unique rules but this is not reflected in-engine).

    For now though, the USSR Sub is sub-stalling the German BB, so the Soviet turn is fine.


  • @VictoryFirst Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from English Channel Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Baltic Sea Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            British buy 5 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Leningrad
            1 bomber moved from Moscow to Stalingrad
            1 fighter moved from Moscow to Stalingrad
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Leningrad
            2 carriers and 4 fighters moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Morocco to Tunisia
            1 armour moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            British creates battle in territory British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
            Strategic bombing raid in Leningrad
                    Germans roll AA dice in Leningrad : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Bombing raid in Leningrad rolls: 5 and costs: 5 PUs.
                Bombing raid costs 5 PUs
            Battle in British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 submarine; Russians loiter and taunt
                Germans defend with 1 battleship
                1 submarine owned by the British submerged
            Battle in Leningrad
                British attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 factory and 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Leningrad
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Leningrad, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Leningrad, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Leningrad
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Leningrad, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Leningrad, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Leningrad
                    1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad
                British winGermans winGermans win with 1 battleship remaining with 1 battleship remaining, taking Leningrad from Germans with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for British: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 1 infantry
            Battle in Stalingrad
                British attack with 1 bomber and 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 armour and 1 factory
                    Germans roll AA dice in Stalingrad : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 bomber owned by the British lost in Stalingrad
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in Stalingrad, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Stalingrad, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in Stalingrad, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Stalingrad, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the British lost in Stalingrad
                    1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Stalingrad
                Germans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -22
                Casualties for British: 1 bomber and 1 fighter
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Moscow
    
        Place Units - British
            1 transport placed in Atlantic Sea Zone
            5 infantry placed in United Kingdom
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 21 PUs; end with 26 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans AA : 0.50
    Germans regular : 2.00
    British regular : -0.50
    

    Your AA went hot. That’s likely game-over unless you intentionally stall to bring up the other tanks.


  • @VictoryFirst Rolling for subs Vs. BB:
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    [dice 3d6<=2]


  • 3d6<=2: 6, 2, 3; Hits: 1


  • @dicebot BB fires back:
    [dice 1d6<=4]


  • 1d6<=4: 6; Hits: 0


  • @DoManMacgee subs again:
    [dice 3d6<=2]


  • 3d6<=2: 2, 5, 6; Hits: 1


  • @VictoryFirst Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 4 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 9 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone: 1 battleship
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 submarine moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
            1 armour, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Russia to Caucasus
            4 fighters moved from Moscow to Caucasus
            4 fighters moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Moscow
            EDIT: Americans undo move 3.
            EDIT: Americans undo move 1.
            1 armour, 3 infantry, 1 submarine and 3 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
                  British take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from Germans
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Caucasus
                Americans attack with 7 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 armour
                    Americans roll dice for 7 fighters in Caucasus, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
                Americans win with 7 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            7 fighters moved from Caucasus to Moscow
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
            4 infantry placed in United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 36 PUs; end with 45 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -0.50
    Germans regular : -0.33
    

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  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 8 armour; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Turkestan
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Russia
                  Germans take Russia from Russians
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Archangel
    
        Combat - Germans
            Strategic bombing raid in Archangel
                Bombing raid in Archangel rolls: 2 and costs: 2 PUs.
                Bombing raid costs 2 PUs
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from Archangel to Belorussia
            9 armour moved from East Poland to Belorussia
            9 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
            2 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 aaGun moved from Belorussia to East Poland
            2 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
    
        Place Units - Germans
            1 armour placed in Stalingrad
            7 armour placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 46 PUs; end with 50 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • @VictoryFirst Regardless of the outcome of the game, I will walk away from this happy that “the script” was defied.


  • @VictoryFirst Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 transport moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Norway to Danish Sea Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Leningrad
            1 fighter moved from Moscow to Turkestan
            1 submarine moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to British Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                  British take British Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Germans
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Turkestan
                Russians attack with 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter in Turkestan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Turkestan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter in Turkestan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Turkestan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Russians lost in Turkestan
                Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
                Casualties for Russians: 1 fighter
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
    
        Place Units - Russians
            4 infantry placed in Moscow
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 0.33
    Russians regular : -1.00
    

    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 6 artilleries; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            2 transports moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
                  British take Netherlands-Belgium from Germans
            1 carrier moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Tunisia to Egypt
            1 bomber moved from Moscow to Stalingrad
            1 artillery moved from Leningrad to Russia
            1 submarine moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone
                  Americans take U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone from Germans
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Stalingrad
                British attack with 1 bomber
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 armour and 1 factory
                    Germans roll AA dice in Stalingrad : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber in Stalingrad, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Stalingrad, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 bomber owned by the British lost in Stalingrad
                    1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Stalingrad
                Germans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10
                Casualties for British: 1 bomber
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour
            Battle in Russia
                British attack with 1 artillery
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery in Russia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Russia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                British win, taking Russia from Germans with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - British
    
        Place Units - British
            6 artilleries placed in United Kingdom
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 31 PUs; end with 33 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans AA : -0.17
    Germans regular : 0.33
    British regular : 1.00
    

    Game History

    Round: 6
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            4 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
            4 infantry and 2 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            1 armour, 3 infantry, 1 submarine and 3 transports moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France
                  Americans take France from Germans
            2 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
            11 fighters moved from Moscow to Turkestan
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Turkestan
                Americans attack with 11 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 11 fighters in Turkestan, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 5.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Turkestan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Turkestan
                Americans win with 11 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            11 fighters moved from Turkestan to Moscow
    
        Place Units - Americans
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in United States
            3 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -1.50
    Germans regular : -0.33
    

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    99% Germany. GG.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 7

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

    Game History

    Round: 7
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 16 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            16 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 46 infantry moved from Belorussia to Moscow
            9 armour and 6 fighters moved from East Poland to Moscow
            7 armour and 6 infantry moved from Germany to Netherlands-Belgium
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Netherlands-Belgium
                Germans attack with 7 armour and 6 infantry
                British defend with 6 infantry; Americans defend with 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 7 armour and 6 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 2 : 6/13 hits, 4,50 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 8 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 2,67 expected hits
                    4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Netherlands-Belgium
                    2 infantry owned by the Americans and 4 infantry owned by the British lost in Netherlands-Belgium
                2 infantry owned by the Germans and 7 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Germany
                British win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 4 infantry
            Battle in Moscow
                Germans attack with 25 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 46 infantry
                Americans defend with 11 fighters; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 factory and 57 infantry
                    Russians roll AA dice in Moscow : 0/7 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 25 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 46 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 31/86 hits, 27,83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 11 fighters and 57 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 26/71 hits, 27,33 expected hits
                    26 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                    31 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                    Germans roll dice for 25 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 20 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 26/60 hits, 23,50 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 11 fighters and 26 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 11/40 hits, 17,00 expected hits
                    11 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                    26 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Moscow
                    Germans roll dice for 25 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 9 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 28/49 hits, 21,67 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 11 fighters in Moscow, round 4 : 10/14 hits, 8,33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans and 9 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow
                    1 armour owned by the Russians, 2 artilleries owned by the Russians and 11 fighters owned by the Americans lost in Moscow
                Germans captures 14PUs while taking Russians capital
                Germans win, taking Moscow from Russians with 25 armour, 7 artilleries, 1 bomber and 6 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 174
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 46 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 57 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 11 fighters
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            Trigger GermanVictoryConditionsMet: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachmentGermanVictorySwitch attached to Germans
            6 fighters moved from Moscow to East Poland
            1 bomber moved from Moscow to East Poland
            1 bomber moved from East Poland to Germany
    
        Place Units - Germans
            16 infantry placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 58 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : -5,67
    Germans regular : 13,50
    Russians AA : -1,17
    British regular : 1,33
    

    Savegame


  • @VictoryFirst said in VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 1:

    Russians regular : -5,67
    Germans regular : 13,50

    LOL, always fun to see those massive dice swings at the end.


  • Thanks for the game, it’s a shame to see that your strat didn’t work out for this game. I think the optimal Allied strategy should also see some sort of attack on Berlin forming on G6, otherwise the Germans can just keep building their tanks.

    Wanna play again, but this time with the balance recommendations? (no SCA Germany, one sub removed Bay of Biscay)? I’ll take Germany again.


  • @VictoryFirst Well that’s that. I don’t think I need another one as you clearly knew before the game started the solution to what I did was to just build one more round of tanks and wait until turn 7, exploiting the fact that the fighter jump is something that can only be done once.


  • @DoManMacgee

    I didn’t know your exact strategy before this game, during the game I realized I could afford to build one more round of tanks without Berlin becoming in danger.

    I think with the balance this strategy might have some more success, as long as you put a little more money into attacking Berlin as well. Once Moscow is secure on G6 AND the Allies are pressuring Berlin, then an Allied victory is much more likely.

    In any case, if you need an opponent then I’m always up for it.


  • @VictoryFirst No worries. Yesterday was a holiday in the US so I did that have the time or enthusiasm to jump into another game immediately.

    @VictoryFirst said in VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 1:

    I didn’t know your exact strategy before this game, during the game I realized I could afford to build one more round of tanks without Berlin becoming in danger.

    I think with the balance this strategy might have some more success, as long as you put a little more money into attacking Berlin as well.

    TGC and I discussed this same potential weakness (Germany builds the extra round of Tanks because Berlin is not in danger) in the strategy last week when I initially rolled it out so I assumed he’d shared my concerns with you as well. I am going to spend some time thinking about ways to strike a better balance of force distribution and get back to you. I am not very good at making major innovations on the fly, unfortunately.

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