Pejon_88 (Allies +16) vs. Naviator (X), BM4, game 1

Pejon_88

@panther Apologies Panther. So you’re saying I should get the 2.6 then? I have been out for awhile and never saw that announcement.

Thanks!

Panther

@pejon_88 said in Pejon_88 (Allies +16) vs. Naviator (X), BM4, game 1:

@panther Apologies Panther. So you’re saying I should get the 2.6 then? I have been out for awhile and never saw that announcement.

Thanks!

No need to apologize, it’s just that many players tend to ignore the support category, what leads to redundant and time consuming discussions.

So you can either update to the current pre-release - but every player needs to do it - for a working PBF-procedure, or
you can continue to use 2.5.22294 and have to live with the workarounds.

There is never an announcement of a pre-release, as those are produced on an almost daily base.
The link to those is to be found in the TripleA Support Category, but as I have already opened it, I copy-paste it right now:
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases
(click on “assets” to find the version you need).

Note that using a pre-release might cause other issues you might need support for. But some players already use those quite successfully.

Pejon_88

@naviator Yeah that was an unfortunate turn of events for Axis. Defense rolls overall were amazing.

r1.tsvg

Panther

@Pejon_88

Also - in case you update - make sure to start a totally new game. If you use older savegames with newer versions of the engine you will just carry over problems from the old to the new engine.

Pejon_88

@panther Great! I will then most likely stay with 2.5… until I have finished my current game. Thanks!

Naviator

@pejon_88 If I declare war on UK/ANZAC, does USA get an option to declare war on Japan? It’s not in the notes, but I think it is in the original G40 rulebook.

Pejon_88

@naviator That’s correct. From the Europe rulebook p.37

Pejon_88

@Naviator I got a bunch of rolls from J1, but no save game here.

Naviator

@pejon_88 Coming up.

Naviator

@naviator j1.tsvg I was second guessing alot, hence a lot of redos. Apologies for waiting, but Japan is my weaker link and I am still adapting a lot to playing them in G40. As the game goes on, it will get faster, plus the bid for allies is a novelty for me so I was trying to play around it.

Pejon_88

@naviator No worries at all. I just thought you may had forgotten to save and post. Has happened to most people here I think. That is very tedious as you need to edit per combat results :D

Take your time :)

Naviator

@pejon_88 Yeah, I know. Well, the hardest part is done, Italians are simpler however. I will be here for an hour or two if you will be having any questions about combat preferences and such stuff.

Pejon_88

@naviator Just two things with Japan to think of. First, remember to always keep at least one land unit in each conquered Chinese territory or the Chinese Guerilla rule will happen. Second, looks like you are maybe trying to block with your Japanese ships in SZ42 and 45. UK/ANZAC are not at war with Japan yet and such blockers will do little right now if that was the idea. Good luck!

Pejon_88

uk1.tsvg @pejon_88

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 marine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
        1 fighter moved from Philippines to Guam
        1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Central United States to Western United States
        1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Western United States
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Central United States

    Place Units - Americans
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 101 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 marine placed in Western United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Yunnan
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
            Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
        1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan
        2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
        1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan

    Place Units - Chinese
        4 infantry placed in Szechwan

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs
        Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 12 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 airfield, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Ethiopia
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 76 Sea Zone to Ethiopia

    Combat - British
        Battle in 96 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                British roll dice for 1 submarine in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Italians, 1 transport owned by the Italians and 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 96 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
            Casualties for British: 1 submarine
            Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
        Battle in 109 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters
            Germans defend with 2 submarines
                British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                2 submarines owned by the Germans lost in 109 Sea Zone
            British win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines
        Battle in Ethiopia
            British attack with 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry
            Italians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Ethiopia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry in Ethiopia, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Ethiopia, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Italians and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Ethiopia
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry in Ethiopia, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Ethiopia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Ethiopia
            British win, taking Ethiopia from Italians with 1 artillery, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
        1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
        1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Eire
              British take Eire from Neutral_Allies
        1 bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        3 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
        1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Burma to 38 Sea Zone
        1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 38 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
              UK_Pacific take Sumatra from Dutch
        1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
              British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies
        1 infantry moved from Burma to India
        1 fighter moved from Burma to India
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
        1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 109 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 fighter moved from 109 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to 76 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 76 Sea Zone to British Somaliland

    Place Units - British
        1 airfield placed in Gibraltar
        1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs
        Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 32 PUs
        Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 38 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs
        Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0,17
Italians regular : 1,33
Japanese regular : -0,33
Germans regular : -0,33
British regular : 0,67

Naviator

@pejon_88 I thought you cannot capture Dutch islands without declaring war on J, I mean, I didn’t lose anything with putting them there, maybe something very minor, but I’m okay with leaving them. As for the guerrilla rule, you scared me there for a moment, but thanks for reminding me, I could have might as well forgotten about it. t1.tsvg

gamerman01

UK/ANZ has special relationship with Dutch such that they can claim their territories without declaring war on J. USA can land on Dutch territories when at war with Japan, but cannot take control of the territory ownership

Naviator

@gamerman01 Oh, thanks for stating it. I did not know that USA cannot capture them.

gamerman01

Not directly, USA can’t. They can take control of them if USA takes them from Japan, though.

You’re most welcome

Pejon_88

Fr1.tsvg

Naviator

@pejon_88 Hi, I blundered my combat move, I did not roll any dice, may I redo?

Pejon_88 (Allies +16) vs. Naviator (X), BM4, game 1

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