OwenToo (Axis) vs Simon33 (Allies) PTV

OOL for battle in SZ 48? 3 hits.

@simon33 They redrew the map in 6.0?

@simon33 It isn’t reachable in 5.2 either

So, I have run into a problem with my builds. I wanted a carrier in 20, and forgot the rule about the need for a harbour. I had actually bought a harbour this turn but it still won’t allow building the carrier the same turn as placement.

So, I at least need to edit some aircraft NCM so that I don’t have a ditching incident

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.2.0

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 harbour and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 fighter moved from Davao to 45 Sea Zone
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 43 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Japan to 31 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Southern Manchuria to Korea
        1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Korea
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Korea
        2 artilleries moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria
        2 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in 59 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 submarine
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 59 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking 59 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
        Battle in 31 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 31 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
        Battle in 45 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 45 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
        Battle in 32 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 submarine
            ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 32 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
        Battle in Northern Manchuria
            Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Manchuria, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Northern Manchuria
                Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Manchuria, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 fighter in Northern Manchuria, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Chinese and 1 artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Northern Manchuria
            Japanese win, taking Northern Manchuria from Chinese with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
        Battle in Korea
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Korea, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Korea, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Korea
            Japanese win, taking Korea from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in 48 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 transport; ANZAC defend with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter
                Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 48 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 transport in 48 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese, 1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 1 cruiser owned by the ANZAC and 1 carrier owned by the Americans lost in 48 Sea Zone
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 48 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 transport in 48 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 1 fighter owned by the ANZAC, 1 aaGun owned by the Americans, 1 fighter owned by the Americans and 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 48 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 cruiser and 1 fighter
            Casualties for Americans: 1 aaGun, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 battleship and 3 carriers moved from 43 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 48 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 tactical_bombers moved from 48 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 45 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 bomber moved from 31 Sea Zone to Wake Island
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Manchuria to Kiangsu
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Korea to Kiangsu
        1 fighter moved from Korea to 20 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 25 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
        1 armour moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
        1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
        2 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 20 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        3 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
        1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
        1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
        1 aaGun moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 destroyer placed in 20 Sea Zone
        1 harbour placed in Kiangsu
        Japanese undo move 1.
        Japanese undo move 1.
        1 harbour placed in Kiangsu
        Japanese undo move 1.
        1 harbour placed in Okinawa
        1 carrier placed in 7 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer placed in 20 Sea Zone
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 20 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 7 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Kiangsu: 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 7 Sea Zone: 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Kiangsu
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs
        Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 41 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -1.33
Americans regular : -0.33
Japanese regular : 0.67
Russians regular : -0.33

Savegame

So the 6.0 map is a huge help to the Allies. Celebes IS reachable from Sydney, and it didn’t used to be, and now Mayaya IS NOT reachable from the Carolines (35), and it used to be.

Well, it looks like you can reach Malaya from Carolines, but not both sea zones surrounding it

@simon33 Well, in the past when I upgraded maps, it didn’t change the map on saved games. This time it changed my map, and I don’t think I can change it back, unless I use my laptop, which I haven’t upgraded yet

I don’t like things changing in the middle of games. When did 6.0 come out? I did not know it had.

@simon33 So you are saying that the save game map rules, even though we can’t see it?

On my map it looked do-able until after my move, I got the new map just to look at it, and now I can’t get rid of it.

How about the carrier scramble limit of 3 aircraft per zone? The savegame will still allow the old rules, then. Right? Because I based my Australian defense on being able to scramble 12 fighters to Queensland, if needed

Sorry, that last comment was about a different PTV game I am playing as the Axis