OwenToo (Axis) vs Simon33 (Allies) PTV
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OOL for battle in SZ 48? 3 hits.
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Oh bother. Didn’t think about that attack because I have the version 6.0 update which doesn’t show the SZ46<->SZ43 connection. Anyway, I’ll sink the ships.
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@simon33 They redrew the map in 6.0?
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Yeah, so Celebes is no longer reachable from Sydney.
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@simon33 It isn’t reachable in 5.2 either
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So, I have run into a problem with my builds. I wanted a carrier in 20, and forgot the rule about the need for a harbour. I had actually bought a harbour this turn but it still won’t allow building the carrier the same turn as placement.
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So, I at least need to edit some aircraft NCM so that I don’t have a ditching incident
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 9
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.2.0
Game History
Round: 9 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 harbour and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 fighter moved from Davao to 45 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 43 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Japan to 31 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Southern Manchuria to Korea 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Korea 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Korea 2 artilleries moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria 2 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria Combat - Japanese Battle in 59 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 submarine Americans defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 59 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 59 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Battle in 31 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 bomber Americans defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 31 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Battle in 45 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter Americans defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 45 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Battle in 32 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 submarine ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 32 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Northern Manchuria Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Manchuria, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Northern Manchuria, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Northern Manchuria Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Manchuria, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 2.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 fighter in Northern Manchuria, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Chinese and 1 artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Northern Manchuria Japanese win, taking Northern Manchuria from Chinese with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry Battle in Korea Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Korea, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Korea, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Korea Japanese win, taking Korea from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in 48 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 transport; ANZAC defend with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 48 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 transport in 48 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese, 1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 1 cruiser owned by the ANZAC and 1 carrier owned by the Americans lost in 48 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 48 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 transport in 48 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 1 fighter owned by the ANZAC, 1 aaGun owned by the Americans, 1 fighter owned by the Americans and 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 48 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28 Casualties for Japanese: 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for ANZAC: 1 cruiser and 1 fighter Casualties for Americans: 1 aaGun, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 transport Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 battleship and 3 carriers moved from 43 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 48 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from 48 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 45 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 bomber moved from 31 Sea Zone to Wake Island 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Manchuria to Kiangsu 1 tactical_bomber moved from Korea to Kiangsu 1 fighter moved from Korea to 20 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 25 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 armour moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 2 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 20 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 3 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 1 aaGun moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol Place Units - Japanese 1 destroyer placed in 20 Sea Zone 1 harbour placed in Kiangsu Japanese undo move 1. Japanese undo move 1. 1 harbour placed in Kiangsu Japanese undo move 1. 1 harbour placed in Okinawa 1 carrier placed in 7 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 20 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 20 Sea Zone: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 7 Sea Zone: 1 fighter EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Kiangsu: 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 7 Sea Zone: 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Kiangsu 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 41 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -1.33 Americans regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : 0.67 Russians regular : -0.33 -
So the 6.0 map is a huge help to the Allies. Celebes IS reachable from Sydney, and it didn’t used to be, and now Mayaya IS NOT reachable from the Carolines (35), and it used to be.
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Well, it looks like you can reach Malaya from Carolines, but not both sea zones surrounding it
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@owentoo said in OwenToo (Axis) vs Simon33 (Allies) PTV:
So the 6.0 map is a huge help to the Allies. Celebes IS reachable from Sydney, and it didn’t used to be, and now Mayaya IS NOT reachable from the Carolines (35), and it used to be.
Oh right. Had it the wrong way around. Yeah, reason for the change is mainly for the SZ35/Malaya connection.
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@simon33 Well, in the past when I upgraded maps, it didn’t change the map on saved games. This time it changed my map, and I don’t think I can change it back, unless I use my laptop, which I haven’t upgraded yet
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I don’t like things changing in the middle of games. When did 6.0 come out? I did not know it had.
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The map is visually changed but the connections are a part of the save game. So it caught me out in this instance.
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@simon33 So you are saying that the save game map rules, even though we can’t see it?
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On my map it looked do-able until after my move, I got the new map just to look at it, and now I can’t get rid of it.
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How about the carrier scramble limit of 3 aircraft per zone? The savegame will still allow the old rules, then. Right? Because I based my Australian defense on being able to scramble 12 fighters to Queensland, if needed
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Sorry, that last comment was about a different PTV game I am playing as the Axis
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@owentoo said in OwenToo (Axis) vs Simon33 (Allies) PTV:
@simon33 So you are saying that the save game map rules, even though we can’t see it?
Yeah, that’s correct.
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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 9
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.2.0
Game History
Round: 9 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 5 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from West Indies to 91 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Central United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 4 fighters and 3 infantry moved from 90 Sea Zone to Suriname Combat - Americans Battle in Suriname Americans attack with 1 artillery, 4 fighters and 3 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 4 fighters and 3 infantry in Suriname, round 2 : 5/8 hits, 3.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Suriname, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Suriname Americans win, taking Suriname from Italians with 1 artillery, 4 fighters and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 4 fighters moved from Suriname to 90 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Western United States to Eastern United States 1 fighter moved from Iceland to Scotland 2 fighters moved from Northern Australia to Sumatra 2 submarines moved from 76 Sea Zone to 60 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 destroyer and 5 submarines placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 carrier placed in 104 Sea Zone 2 fighters placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 59 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3 Americans collect 52 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 53 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 63 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open Chinese buy 4 artilleries and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 3 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Shansi 3 artilleries and 16 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Anhwe Combat - Chinese Battle in Shansi Chinese attack with 3 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shansi Chinese win, taking Shansi from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Anhwe Chinese attack with 3 artilleries and 16 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 3 artilleries and 16 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 7/19 hits, 4.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Anhwe Chinese win, taking Anhwe from Japanese with 3 artilleries and 15 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Fukien to Kiangsi Place Units - Chinese 4 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Anhwe Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 20 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 3 artilleries and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from French West Africa to Gold Coast 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 90 Sea Zone to British Guiana Combat - British Battle in British Guiana Battle in Gold Coast British attack with 2 artilleries and 3 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 2 artilleries and 3 infantry in Gold Coast, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Gold Coast, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Gold Coast British win, taking British Guiana from Italians, taking Gold Coast from Italians with 2 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Union of South Africa 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iceland to United Kingdom 2 cruisers moved from 76 Sea Zone to 60 Sea Zone EDIT: 2 submarines moved from 60 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 2 cruisers moved from 60 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Burma to Eastern India 11 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Anhwe Place Units - British 3 artilleries placed in Union of South Africa 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 84 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,5 British collect 23 PUs; end with 24 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 2 fighters placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 20 PUs; end with 21 PUs Objective UK Pacific 2 Kwangtung And Malaya: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 24 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 2 fightersCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 3.33 Americans regular : 2.00 Japanese regular : 0.33 Italians regular : -0.67 British regular : -0.50
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