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Napoleon 8 Players - Game #16!
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@Private-Panic said in Napoleon 8 Players - Game #16!:
Fight on to the death I say …… @redrum 's death that is!!! But it seems that I am outvoted.
Here here! I have still have a capital, you coalition punks! Come at me, bro!
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TripleA Turn Summary: France round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.2
Game History
Round: 6 Politics - France Combat Move - France 3 Artillerys, 6 Dragoonss, 8 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss, 6 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Howitzer, 20 Hussarss and 1 Ney moved from Salzburg to Austria 2 Hussarss moved from Tyrol to Austria 3 Neys moved from Rhine to Austria 1 Fusiliers moved from Ile-de-France to Normandy 1 Artillery moved from Ile-de-France to Picardy 1 Ney moved from Ile-de-France to Normandy 1 Ney moved from Ile-de-France to Picardy 1 Ney moved from Champagne to Flanders 1 Ney moved from Champagne to Cologne 1 Ney moved from Languedoc to Cologne Purchase Units - France France buy 2 Artillerys, 3 Fusilierss and 7 Hussarss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat - France Battle in Picardy France attack with 1 Artillery and 1 Ney UnitedKingdom defend with 1 Marines France roll dice for 1 Artillery and 1 Ney in Picardy, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits UnitedKingdom roll dice for 1 Marines in Picardy, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Marines owned by the UnitedKingdom lost in Picardy France win, taking Picardy from UnitedKingdom with 1 Artillery and 1 Ney remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for UnitedKingdom: 1 Marines Battle in Austria France attack with 3 Artillerys, 6 Dragoonss, 8 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss, 6 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Howitzer, 22 Hussarss and 4 Neys KingdomOfPrussia defend with 2 Artillerys, 6 Chasseurss, 11 Fusilierss and 3 Howitzers; AustrianEmpire defend with 5 Artillerys, 1 Capital, 5 Chasseurss, 5 Dragoonss, 4 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss, 4 Horse_Artillerys, 6 Howitzers, 4 Hussarss, 1 Marines and 2 Mortella_Towers; UnitedKingdom defend with 1 Dragoons France roll dice for 3 Artillerys, 6 Dragoonss, 8 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss, 6 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Howitzer, 22 Hussarss and 4 Neys in Austria, round 2 : 14/52 hits, 14.50 expected hits AustrianEmpire roll dice for 7 Artillerys, 11 Chasseurss, 6 Dragoonss, 15 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss, 4 Horse_Artillerys, 9 Howitzers, 4 Hussarss, 1 Marines and 2 Mortella_Towers in Austria, round 2 : 14/61 hits, 18.17 expected hits 1 Horse_Artillery owned by the AustrianEmpire, 14 Hussarss owned by the France, 3 Howitzers owned by the KingdomOfPrussia, 6 Howitzers owned by the AustrianEmpire and 4 Hussarss owned by the AustrianEmpire lost in Austria France roll dice for 3 Artillerys, 6 Dragoonss, 8 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss, 6 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Howitzer, 8 Hussarss and 4 Neys in Austria, round 3 : 12/38 hits, 12.17 expected hits AustrianEmpire roll dice for 7 Artillerys, 11 Chasseurss, 6 Dragoonss, 15 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss, 3 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Marines and 2 Mortella_Towers in Austria, round 3 : 14/47 hits, 15.83 expected hits 5 Artillerys owned by the AustrianEmpire, 3 Horse_Artillerys owned by the AustrianEmpire, 8 Hussarss owned by the France, 6 Fusilierss owned by the France, 2 Artillerys owned by the KingdomOfPrussia and 2 Mortella_Towers owned by the AustrianEmpire lost in Austria France roll dice for 3 Artillerys, 6 Dragoonss, 2 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss, 6 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Howitzer and 4 Neys in Austria, round 4 : 11/24 hits, 9.83 expected hits AustrianEmpire roll dice for 11 Chasseurss, 6 Dragoonss, 15 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss and 1 Marines in Austria, round 4 : 14/35 hits, 13.50 expected hits 2 Fusilierss owned by the France, 1 Howitzer owned by the France, 3 Dragoonss owned by the France, 2 Grenadierss owned by the France, 11 Fusilierss owned by the KingdomOfPrussia and 6 Horse_Artillerys owned by the France lost in Austria France roll dice for 3 Artillerys, 3 Dragoonss and 4 Neys in Austria, round 5 : 5/10 hits, 5.17 expected hits AustrianEmpire roll dice for 11 Chasseurss, 6 Dragoonss, 4 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss and 1 Marines in Austria, round 5 : 13/24 hits, 9.83 expected hits 4 Fusilierss owned by the AustrianEmpire, 4 Neys owned by the France, 3 Dragoonss owned by the France, 3 Artillerys owned by the France and 1 Marines owned by the AustrianEmpire lost in Austria AustrianEmpire win with 11 Chasseurss, 6 Dragoonss and 2 Grenadierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is -74 Casualties for France: 3 Artillerys, 6 Dragoonss, 8 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss, 6 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Howitzer, 22 Hussarss and 4 Neys Casualties for AustrianEmpire: 5 Artillerys, 4 Fusilierss, 4 Horse_Artillerys, 6 Howitzers, 4 Hussarss, 1 Marines and 2 Mortella_Towers Casualties for KingdomOfPrussia: 2 Artillerys, 11 Fusilierss and 3 Howitzers Battle in Flanders France attack with 1 Ney KingdomOfPrussia defend with 1 Hussars France roll dice for 1 Ney in Flanders, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits AustrianEmpire roll dice for 1 Hussars in Flanders, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits France roll dice for 1 Ney in Flanders, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits AustrianEmpire roll dice for 1 Hussars in Flanders, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 Hussars owned by the KingdomOfPrussia lost in Flanders France win, taking Flanders from AustrianEmpire with 1 Ney remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for KingdomOfPrussia: 1 Hussars Battle in Normandy France attack with 1 Fusiliers and 1 Ney UnitedKingdom defend with 1 Marines France roll dice for 1 Fusiliers and 1 Ney in Normandy, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits UnitedKingdom roll dice for 1 Marines in Normandy, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Marines owned by the UnitedKingdom and 1 Fusiliers owned by the France lost in Normandy France win, taking Normandy from UnitedKingdom with 1 Ney remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for France: 1 Fusiliers Casualties for UnitedKingdom: 1 Marines Battle in Cologne France attack with 2 Neys KingdomOfPrussia defend with 2 Dragoonss France roll dice for 2 Neys in Cologne, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 2 Dragoonss in Cologne, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 Dragoons owned by the KingdomOfPrussia lost in Cologne France roll dice for 2 Neys in Cologne, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 1 Dragoons in Cologne, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Dragoons owned by the KingdomOfPrussia lost in Cologne France win, taking Cologne from KingdomOfPrussia with 2 Neys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for KingdomOfPrussia: 2 Dragoonss Non Combat Move - France 1 Brigantine moved from SZ80 to SZ71 1 General moved from Rhine to Champagne 1 Horse_Artillery moved from Languedoc to Anjou Place Units - France 1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers placed in Champagne 1 Artillery, 2 Fusilierss and 7 Hussarss placed in Ile-de-France Turn Complete - France France collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs Objective Balancing Income for balanced game: France met a national objective for an additional -6 PUs; end with 36 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
KingdomOfPrussia : -1.00 AustrianEmpire : -2.67 UnitedKingdom : 0.33 France : -0.67
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@redrum Did you survive the battle or can we now surrender? 🤗
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@Private-Panic I think Napoleon didn’t survive the battle for Vienna… I’m fine surrendering or continuing.
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@redrum very brave of you to take on Vienna. We understand, if you need to concede now.
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It’s time to call it. They really do not have any avenue to victory. GGs to all.
I would play another.Does anyone else agree that France’s faction needs a bid? I understand the Coalition has lost plenty of times but with the fine-tuning of Coalition play, Caroliginians need multiple bad mis-plays from the enemy to win.
Does anyone agree or disagree? Would love to hear both sides of input. I know Leo has suggested an antibid of removing some UK island forces but I prefer normal bid rules that allow different tactics. -
@Colt45554 I would take away some British units. Oh you already said that!
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Will someone roll dice then, please? Then we can talk about a bid.
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@Wittmann slow down we don’t even know who’s playing! Haha
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I’ll play! :blush:
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Glad to play another one.
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I’m in for another game.
I’m not sold on a bid. Maybe something small for France’s side? Both the Ottomans and Sweden need a ton of luck to stay relevant in the game.
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I’m in too
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I’m in for another game
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6 of the last 8 games have been coalition wins.
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@Whackamatt would you roll dice for us, please?
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How do you want the bid to work? We all agree before hand that France needs 10, 20, or 30 points of stuff before hand and then dice for sides or everyone picks a small amount of bid and the four players that end as Carolinian players combine the 4 small amounts?
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I think the top two rolls could be captains for the bid. “Caroliginians for 8.” “caro for 7”…
Then the number one guy picks his nation from the faction he bid for then the second captain then normal pick.
Once the teams are decided, the 4 Caros can decide where their bid goesBut it would seem only Witt and I think a bid is necessary so we are outvoted!
The game can proceed as normal.
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I don’t know if a back-and-forth bid works when the sides are already determined. It’s not knowing who ends up on what side that makes the bid work.
I like a deviation of what Degrasse suggested; we predetermine how much the Caros get. However, instead of dictating that it all goes to France or whatever, I say either let the Caros themselves decide where it goes once sides are picked (+20 to Sweden!), or have a random roll decide who gets what. (+12 Spain, +8 Ottomans, +6 France, +4 Sweden).
Or perhaps a third option of predetermined and tiered by economy. France 12, Spain 8, Ottomans 6, Sweden 4.
The only power I haven’t felt threatened as at the beginning is Spain, but then I sometimes feel like I didn’t affect the game at all as Spain.
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In my suggestion the sides aren’t determined before bid. The top two rolls/picks bid against each other then the other 6 players select.
But I’m ok playing without a bid again unless more of the others agree france’s side is at disadvantage. Degrasse did point out that France’s side has performed well in these games.