ABH (Axis) vs Axis-Dominion BM3 20L


  • @Adam514 yeah, bombers with a few units of ground units are devastating. Bombers cost 3/attack point while art+inf are 2/attack point. The flexibility to project power in three theaters simultaneously make bombers such a good value.


  • @axis-dominion said in ABH (Axis) vs Axis-Dominion BM3 20L:

    @Adam514 said in ABH (Axis) vs Axis-Dominion BM3 20L:

    @axis-dominion said in ABH (Axis) vs Axis-Dominion BM3 20L:

    @Adam514 said in ABH (Axis) vs Axis-Dominion BM3 20L:

    @axis-dominion I encourage you to voice your opinion on the BM feedback thread, some don’t like the change.

    funny, cuz when you first mentioned it to me after our championship game, I too was kinda uncertain and not so in favor of it, but yah it’s dawning on me more and more, and this match here only further drives the point home for me.

    I think you would have won the championship if you had gone for bombers instead of fleet.

    I have to agree with you on that

    Yeah, that looked like 8 bombers worth of fleet. That would have been enough to have turned the tide in other theaters while keeping the Atlantic landing force at bay.


  • Looked through at that pivotal turn 15 time in that championship game. Another eight bombers would have made a 160 TUV swing in Egypt confrontation, and you would have kept all of your planes to then go after Russia and the Atlantic fleet.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: ANZAC round 25

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 25
    
        Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - ANZAC
    
        Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to Central United States
            3 carriers moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 2 transports moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 54 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Queensland to 33 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales
    
        Place Units - ANZAC
            1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in New South Wales
            2 infantry placed in Queensland
    
        Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 11 PUs; end with 11 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 14 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 17 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 26

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 26
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 5 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 bomber moved from Marianas to Caroline Islands
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 56 Sea Zone to Western Australia
            1 infantry moved from 56 Sea Zone to Western Australia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Iraq
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Iraq
            1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Dutch New Guinea
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea
            1 artillery moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea
            6 bombers moved from Philippines to Caroline Islands
            1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Dutch New Guinea
            1 bomber moved from Philippines to New Guinea
            1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Dutch New Guinea
            1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Dutch New Guinea
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Western Australia
            Battle in New Guinea
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in New Guinea, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in New Guinea, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in New Guinea
                Japanese win, taking Western Australia from ANZAC, taking New Guinea from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
            Battle in Caroline Islands
                Japanese attack with 7 bombers
                Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry; ANZAC defend with 3 fighters
                    Japanese roll dice for 7 bombers in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 4.67 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    3 fighters owned by the ANZAC, 1 bomber owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caroline Islands
                Japanese win with 6 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 24
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 bomber
                Casualties for ANZAC: 3 fighters
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Dutch New Guinea
                Japanese attack with 4 bombers
                ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 4 bombers in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 bomber owned by the Japanese lost in Dutch New Guinea
                Japanese win with 3 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 bomber
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            3 bombers moved from Dutch New Guinea to Paulau Island
            1 bomber moved from New Guinea to Paulau Island
            6 bombers moved from Caroline Islands to Paulau Island
            1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            5 carriers, 4 destroyers, 10 fighters, 2 infantry, 18 submarines and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            1 infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            2 carriers and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 37 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Philippines to Paulau Island
            3 submarines moved from 6 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Paulau Island
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Paulau Island
            1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Paulau Island
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Sikang to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Shensi to Sikang
            1 mech_infantry moved from Shensi to Kazakhstan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Shensi to Kazakhstan
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            1 airfield and 1 harbour placed in Paulau Island
            3 tactical_bombers placed in French Indo China
            2 tactical_bombers placed in Japan
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 72 PUs; end with 72 PUs
            Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 75 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 85 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    ANZAC : 0.33
    Americans : -1.67
    Japanese : 1.33
    

    Savegame


  • I think this game is coming to an end. Keep going a few more rounds?


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 26

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 26
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 airfields, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria
                  Americans take Syria from Italians
            1 armour moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
            9 bombers moved from Trans-Jordan to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from French West Africa to Iraq
            1 bomber moved from French West Africa to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Americans creates battle in territory 105 Sea Zone
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • still feeling lucky?!

    if so, specify exactly which air you will scramble to 97


  • No I left him there as a honeypot


  • @Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in ABH (Axis) vs Axis-Dominion BM3 20L:

    No I left him there as a honeypot

    lmao


  • @axis-dominion said in ABH (Axis) vs Axis-Dominion BM3 20L:

    @Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in ABH (Axis) vs Axis-Dominion BM3 20L:

    No I left him there as a honeypot

    lmao

    great way to distract from SBRs haha


  • 138 PUs used to destroy a transport. I will accept that.


  • @Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in ABH (Axis) vs Axis-Dominion BM3 20L:

    138 PUs used to destroy a transport. I will accept that.

    yup that’s the nature of it, sometimes what must be done must be done, but also, I don’t think I had a lot of other targets for those bombers anyway


  • You don’t like the Aussies, do you?


  • @Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in ABH (Axis) vs Axis-Dominion BM3 20L:

    You don’t like the Aussies, do you?

    why do you say that?


  • Abandoning the Pacific?


  • @Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in ABH (Axis) vs Axis-Dominion BM3 20L:

    Abandoning the Pacific?

    nah, far from it


  • I’ve been in a lot tougher situations in the pac. but it’s a bit early to really say, so we’ll see!


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 26

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 26
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 airfields, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria
                  Americans take Syria from Italians
            1 armour moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
            9 bombers moved from Trans-Jordan to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from French West Africa to Iraq
            1 bomber moved from French West Africa to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Americans creates battle in territory 105 Sea Zone
            Strategic bombing raid in Normandy Bordeaux
                    AA fire in Normandy Bordeaux : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Bombing raid in Normandy Bordeaux rolls: 3 and causes: 3 damage to unit: factory_minor
                Bombing raid in Normandy Bordeaux causes 3 damage total. 
            Strategic bombing raid in Iraq
                    AA fire in Iraq : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Bombing raid in Iraq rolls: 5 and causes: 5 damage to unit: factory_minor
                Bombing raid in Iraq causes 5 damage total. 
            Battle in 46 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 46 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 9 bombers and 3 fighters
                Italians defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 9 bombers and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Italians: 1 transport
            Battle in 54 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                    Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 54 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/10 hits, 5.17 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 54 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 54 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking 54 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Spain
            9 bombers moved from 97 Sea Zone to Spain
            3 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Malta
            2 submarines moved from 105 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 86 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone
            3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 86 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Rio de Oro to Morocco
            3 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
            2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Venezuela to 89 Sea Zone
            6 infantry and 3 transports moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
            1 infantry moved from Venezuela to British Guiana
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Sweden to Norway
            3 fighters moved from Central United States to Rio de Oro
            3 fighters moved from Trans-Jordan to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from Central United States to Portugal
            2 infantry moved from Spain to Portugal
            2 infantry moved from Spain to Gibraltar
            2 fighters moved from Central United States to Portugal
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 64 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 64 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
            2 fighters moved from Central United States to 26 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            6 carriers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 46 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            5 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands
            3 infantry moved from Iceland to 123 Sea Zone
            3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 123 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Central United States
            1 fighter moved from 54 Sea Zone to New South Wales
            1 fighter moved from 54 Sea Zone to New South Wales
            1 fighter moved from 54 Sea Zone to New South Wales
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 airfield placed in Spain
            1 airfield placed in Portugal
            1 airfield placed in Rio de Oro
            1 factory_minor placed in Spain
            1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone
            2 fighters placed in Western United States
            3 infantry placed in Norway
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,5,3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 105 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,5
            Americans collect 68 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 68 PUs
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 83 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 93 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
    
        Combat - Chinese
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 2 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Turkey
            23 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Spain to France
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Trans-Jordan to Turkey
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Turkey
                British attack with 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Turkey, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Turkey, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Turkey
                British win with 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in France
                British attack with 23 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys
                    British roll dice for 23 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in France, round 2 : 12/25 hits, 12.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys in France, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Germans, 3 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in France
                British win with 21 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for British: 2 fighters
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 tactical_bombers moved from France to Spain
            13 fighters moved from France to Norway
            8 fighters moved from France to Spain
            3 fighters moved from Trans-Jordan to Spain
            3 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            2 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kenya to Egypt
            2 infantry moved from Tanganyika Territory to Kenya
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Turkey to Trans-Jordan
            2 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 64 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 64 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 10 Sea Zone to Western United States
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Argentina to 54 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Spain
            1 transport moved from 123 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 104 Sea Zone to Spain
            1 destroyer moved from 123 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            2 fighters moved from Trans-Jordan to Spain
            1 fighter moved from Central United States to 91 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 101 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Central United States: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Spain: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 104 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            3 infantry placed in Egypt
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Union of South Africa
            2 fighters placed in United Kingdom
    
        Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,3
            British collect 32 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 33 PUs
            Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans : 1.00
    British : -1.67
    Americans : -0.17
    AA fire in Normandy Bordeaux : : -0.17
    AA fire in Iraq : : -0.17
    Japanese : -0.17
    

    Savegame


  • hold on, small change coming

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