I am playing a casual game of BM3 (3.0) with Canada being a separate faction instead of under British’s domain. I noticed in the game that China does not spawn guerrillas in Japan’s territories not garrisoned by a land unit. The notes differ as to also in that China gets another +3 for their Objective. Is this a compensation or a bug rather?
19L axis-dominion vs majikforce (allies) bm3
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 13
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3
Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine 5 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine 1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Ukraine 1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Samara to Kazakhstan 4 mech_infantrys moved from Archangel to Novosibirsk 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Southern France Combat - Italians Battle in Ukraine Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 2 artilleries and 1 factory_minor Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys in Ukraine, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries in Ukraine, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Italians, 2 artilleries owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Ukraine Italians win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 1 bomber and 5 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 artilleries Battle in Novosibirsk Italians attack with 4 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 1 mech_infantry Italians roll dice for 4 mech_infantrys in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Italians lost in Novosibirsk Italians roll dice for 3 mech_infantrys in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Italians lost in Novosibirsk 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Italians retreated to Vologda Russians win with 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8 Casualties for Italians: 2 mech_infantrys Battle in Southern France Italians attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Southern France Italians win, taking Southern France from Americans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Kazakhstan Italians attack with 1 armour and 3 infantry British defend with 1 mech_infantry Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 3 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the British lost in Kazakhstan Italians win, taking Kazakhstan from Russians with 1 armour and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 2 aaGuns moved from Samara to Kazakhstan 1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Southern Italy 2 fighters moved from Southern France to Southern Italy Place Units - Italians 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 16 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians : -0.33 Americans : -0.33 Russians : 2.33 -
TripleA Turn Summary: French round 13
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3
Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 armour, 1 destroyer and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 2 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 34 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Queensland to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Okinawa Combat - ANZAC Battle in Okinawa Battle in 55 Sea Zone ANZAC attack with 1 destroyer Japanese defend with 1 submarine ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone ANZAC win, taking Okinawa from Japanese with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Battle in 44 Sea Zone ANZAC attack with 2 submarines Japanese defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport ANZAC roll dice for 2 submarines in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 44 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 44 Sea Zone ANZAC roll dice for 2 submarines in 44 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits ANZAC win, taking 44 Sea Zone from Japanese with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in 34 Sea Zone ANZAC attack with 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 2 submarines Japanese defend with 2 battleships, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport ANZAC roll dice for 2 submarines in 34 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 2 destroyers and 3 fighters in 34 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 34 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits 2 destroyers owned by the ANZAC, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese, 1 battleship owned by the Japanese, 2 submarines owned by the ANZAC and 2 cruisers owned by the Japanese lost in 34 Sea Zone ANZAC roll dice for 3 fighters in 34 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in 34 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the ANZAC and 1 battleship owned by the Japanese lost in 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 34 Sea Zone ANZAC win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 44 Casualties for ANZAC: 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 2 submarines Casualties for Japanese: 2 battleships, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport Non Combat Move - ANZAC 2 fighters moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands Place Units - ANZAC 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Queensland 1 destroyer placed in 54 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 11 PUs; end with 12 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 15 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 18 PUs Combat Move - French 2 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan Non Combat Move - French Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
ANZAC : 2.00 Japanese : 1.17 -
TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 14
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3
Game History
Round: 14 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 armour, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 6 infantry, 7 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 5 armour, 3 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Rostov 8 armour and 10 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Rostov 2 armour and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Samara to Rostov 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk Germans take Bryansk from Russians 1 armour and 11 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk 3 artilleries moved from Samara to Novosibirsk 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Samara to Tambov 1 mech_infantry moved from Archangel to Urals Germans take Urals from Russians 2 artilleries moved from Samara to Novosibirsk 1 fighter moved from Samara to Tambov 1 bomber moved from Archangel to Smolensk 1 fighter moved from Archangel to Rostov 2 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Rostov 2 artilleries moved from Samara to Novosibirsk 1 mech_infantry moved from Archangel to Novosibirsk 2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 carriers and 1 cruiser moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 1 bomber moved from Samara to Rostov 1 artillery moved from Samara to Tambov 1 fighter moved from Volgograd to Rostov Combat - Germans Battle in Holland Belgium Germans attack with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Holland Belgium Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from Americans with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Novosibirsk Germans attack with 7 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 1 mech_infantry Germans roll dice for 7 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Novosibirsk Germans win, taking Novosibirsk from Russians with 6 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry Battle in Western Ukraine Germans attack with 1 armour and 11 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 11 mech_infantrys in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 3/12 hits, 2.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 armour and 11 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in Tambov Germans attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 5/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tambov Germans win, taking Tambov from Russians with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in 110 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 submarine Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Americans and 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 110 Sea Zone Germans win with 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Smolensk Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Rostov Germans attack with 15 armour, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 22 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 15 artilleries and 15 infantry AA fire in Rostov : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Rostov Germans roll dice for 15 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 22 mech_infantrys in Rostov, round 2 : 16/44 hits, 13.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 aaGun, 15 artilleries and 15 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 6/30 hits, 10.00 expected hits 15 infantry owned by the Russians, 3 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 aaGun owned by the Russians and 3 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Rostov Germans roll dice for 15 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 19 mech_infantrys in Rostov, round 3 : 19/38 hits, 12.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 15 artilleries in Rostov, round 3 : 3/15 hits, 5.00 expected hits 15 artilleries owned by the Russians and 3 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Rostov Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 15 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 16 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 67 Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun, 15 artilleries and 15 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun moved from Samara to Novosibirsk 1 aaGun moved from Samara to Tambov 3 artilleries moved from Samara to Volgograd 1 infantry moved from Vologda to Samara 1 mech_infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus 1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel 1 fighter moved from Rostov to Volgograd 1 fighter moved from Rostov to Novgorod 1 fighter moved from Rostov to Ukraine 1 aaGun moved from Caucasus to Rostov 1 bomber moved from Rostov to Volgograd 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 3 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 5 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Romania 1 mech_infantry moved from Sikang to Novosibirsk 1 bomber moved from Smolensk to Novgorod 1 fighter moved from Tambov to Ukraine Place Units - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 93 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 fighters placed in 97 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 97 Sea Zone 1 submarine placed in 110 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Volgograd 3 infantry placed in Novgorod 1 armour and 7 mech_infantrys placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 66 PUs; end with 67 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 74 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 89 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans : 13.33 AA fire in Rostov : : 0.50 Americans : 0.33 Russians : -5.00 -
@axis-dominion GG I’m gonna concede this one. I probably had better options for the allies this turn, but I just couldn’t see a path to change the tides. I did get a little diced in Rostov but you still had me. I liked your patient pace with Germany taking the really long way around Lol! I don’t think I was effective enough with the US. I spent alot on Egypt, but so did you but I couldn’t capitalize on it against Germany. I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on how you would have proceeded once Egypt was back in allied hands?
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Had a bit of a look at this one. Good to see different strategies being used! G4 & UK2 DOW. Taranto AND Tobruk.
Confused by that last USSR move into Rostov. Didn’t that just place units into danger? Do you think you lost the game right there? USSR wasn’t likely to fall next turn but the writing may have been on the wall after losing 30 units.
As for doing something different, could you have put more effort into taking back the Caucasus with UK? I guess that was only really at the end but the game was pretty closely matched. Was the UK2 DOW worth it? That also led the USSR DOW on Japan and nullifying the Mongolian rule. Anyway, just my 2c if you’re interested.
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@simon33 said in 19L axis-dominion vs majikforce (allies) bm3:
Had a bit of a look at this one. Good to see different strategies being used! G4 & UK2 DOW. Taranto AND Tobruk.
Confused by that last USSR move into Rostov. Didn’t that just place units into danger? Do you think you lost the game right there? USSR wasn’t likely to fall next turn but the writing may have been on the wall after losing 30 units.
As for doing something different, could you have put more effort into taking back the Caucasus with UK? I guess that was only really at the end but the game was pretty closely matched. Was the UK2 DOW worth it? That also led the USSR DOW on Japan and nullifying the Mongolian rule. Anyway, just my 2c if you’re interested.
Thanks for the feedback Simon. As for the last Allied turn I guess I had already made up my mind that I didn’t see a path to victory so I wanted to see what AD would do when presented with two large targets in Russia. Their turn wasn’t optimized to continue. Hence the US naval battle in the pacific. I worked so hard to liberate Egypt and once I did I wasn’t in the position I thought I would be. I underestimated the German stack and Italys ability to keep it alive. He spent alot of early money on planes which I killed in Egypt. I thought that would give me a unit advantage in Russia and the middle east. But the US was not able to dent Germany at all. And well Japan was a pretty strong naval force.
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great game majik!
phew! this is one of those matches I thought I was gonna lose, to be totally honest lol I don’t think you really knew just how strong your Russian advantage was once Egypt fell, or even before it did. I noticed you were still playing defensively with them, and let me get away with continuing to defend Egypt with German planes for as long as I did.
but even without a more aggressive russia, I felt you still had strong chances. yes I think you weren’t as effective with the US, as it seems like you were throwing away units left and right (eg ships in the pac and tps in the med and Atlantic). I felt you were being wasteful at times, but interestingly enough, it was slowing the axis down as well. so perhaps it wasn’t so wasteful but more a part of your larger strategy to keep the axis distracted with smaller material gains here and there, so as to keep them from pursuing the larger goals and thrusts. idk … for sure an interesting play style/strategy to say the least, probably one of the more unique ones I’ve seen (similar to bjergmose, a was a former league player).
well, to answer your question: once Egypt fell, I would’ve concentrated on smashing the axis ships and completely conquering the med. there’s a lot of money locked up in there. and then possibly go for infiltrating through greece. but that’s just one potential option.
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we should rematch. let me know if you’re down.
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@axis-dominion Thanks for the feedback. Good to know I had you questioning yourself:relaxed: Maybe I threw in the towel too early. I usually fight till the last minute. But I was struggling to see my advantage and a way to make it stick. Maybe I’ll go back and look at Russia again. (Usually I’m over aggressive with them) I’d be down for another. Switch sides? Or same? I fine with either.
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@majikforce if you want, I can go axis again. give you another chance to redeem your allies ;)
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@axis-dominion said in 19L axis-dominion vs majikforce (allies) bm3:
@majikforce if you want, I can go axis again. give you another chance to redeem your allies ;)
LOL! Let’s see if I qualify as insane. Doing the same thing over again expecting a different result. I’m down! Fire it up!
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