TT Oberkommando BrAeV (X) vs ColtWitt (L+18)

I am playing a casual game of BM3 (3.0) with Canada being a separate faction instead of under British’s domain. I noticed in the game that China does not spawn guerrillas in Japan’s territories not garrisoned by a land unit. The notes differ as to also in that China gets another +3 for their Objective. Is this a compensation or a bug rather?

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 15

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 15 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese repair damage of 6x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 44 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Japanese buy 3 destroyers and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 3 bombers moved from French Indo China to Java 1 fighter moved from 38 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma 1 mech_infantry moved from Szechwan to Burma 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to Burma 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Burma 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Burma 1 bomber moved from Japan to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol Combat - Japanese Battle in 42 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 transport ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Java Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 bombers and 1 infantry ANZAC defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 bombers and 1 infantry in Java, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Java, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 3 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry Battle in Jehol Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Jehol Japanese win, taking Jehol from Chinese with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Burma Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Burma, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.83 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Burma Japanese win with 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 3 bombers moved from Java to Malaya 1 aaGun moved from Shan State to Malaya 1 artillery moved from Shan State to Malaya 3 fighters moved from Burma to Malaya 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers and 2 transports moved from 38 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 3 tactical_bombers moved from Burma to 36 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Jehol to Japan 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 2 fighters moved from Japan to French Indo China 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Malaya 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 artillery moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Chahar 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 armour moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 1 armour moved from Szechwan to French Indo China 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangsi 1 mech_infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangsi 1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan 1 mech_infantry moved from Hopei to Hunan 1 aaGun moved from Anhwe to Hunan Place Units - Japanese 3 destroyers placed in 36 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Malaya 3 infantry placed in Kiangsu Turn Complete - Japanese Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 20 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,6 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 19 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5 Japanese collect 57 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 59 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from French Indo China: 2 tactical_bombers EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 36 Sea Zone: 2 tactical_bombers EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Siberia: 4 bombers EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Caroline Islands: 4 bombers EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

ANZAC : -0.67 Chinese : -0.33 UK_Pacific : 1.33 Japanese : 1.50

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Oh, and you were taking too many high risks, and all of those risky battles that bit you, they added up quite significantly.

I’m reviewing all Vichy rules available out there, as I plan to make a unique mod, because I like historical realism and simplicity, with minimized luck of dice, and some “asymmetric balance”.

Some major points I’ve posted elsewhere in the forum:

The main issue for this expansion is how to develop French neutrality, while at the same time providing a bonus to Germany. Apparently ignored by most players, in real life (IRL), Germany economically exploited Vichy, which had to richly sustain 300,000 German troops stationed in Northern France. Therefore, in the game, it only makes total sense that Germany gets the 3 IPCs from Vichy Southern France.

Another related major issue is what to do with French colonies in terms of neutrality/occupation and IPC flows. I agree that the Vichy setup should reflect what happened IRL: North Africa, Syria, and Indochina go to Vichy, while other French colonies stay Free. However, it messes up Italy’s incursions into North Africa (as IRL, Hitler denied French colonies to Italy). I’m not sure yet as to the best approach to subjecting these colonies to invasion, occupation, and who gains IPCs (other than agreeing that Japan has easy access “rights” over Vichy Indochina), and also remote units…

Germany never fought Vichy. IRL, with Operation Torch, Germany simply occupied Vichy in 1942, with no resistance whatsoever. Vichy units were disbanded. That can be also the case in the game. Just remove Vichy units.

The uncertainty surrounding local pre-battles is quite interesting (will Vichy troops welcome or resist Allies in North Africa?..). However, I’d try to minimize dice randomness that is often used to decide some outcome. IRL, Vichy troops (just like Italians) surrendered as soon as seeing enemy superiority: thus, in the game, if Allies send more land + air units than defending Vichy units, then there should be no battle but quick surrender. Or, make it highly unlikely that a battle would ensue (for example, need to roll a 1).

I’m now working on my own house rules, for an expansion (HBG lingo) that is quite realistic, fun yet simple. If anyone is interested, let me know and I’ll be happy to share my rules when ready…

phd_angel@yahoo.com

Chicago, December 2020

@axis-dominion

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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 20

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 20 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 7 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kazakhstan to Russia 1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd Germans take Volgograd from Russians 1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Novosibirsk 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Novosibirsk 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Novosibirsk 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Tsinghai Germans take Tsinghai from Chinese 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tsinghai to Shensi 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Shensi 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Tsinghai 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kansu 1 fighter moved from Kazakhstan to Kansu 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Kansu 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Turkey 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Turkey 1 artillery moved from Kazakhstan to Novosibirsk 2 fighters moved from Kazakhstan to Turkey 3 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk Germans take Bryansk from Russians 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Smolensk to Russia 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Vologda 1 artillery moved from Archangel to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Ukraine 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda 1 armour moved from Smolensk to Ukraine 2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 2 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy 1 fighter moved from France to Northern Italy 2 fighters moved from France to 110 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Bulgaria to Greece 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 93 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Greece 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy 1 fighter moved from Kazakhstan to Greece 1 fighter moved from Kazakhstan to Greece 1 fighter moved from Kazakhstan to Shensi 1 fighter moved from Kazakhstan to Turkey Combat - Germans Battle in 93 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber Americans defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 93 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Battle in Northern Italy Germans attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry Americans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Northern Italy Germans win, taking Northern Italy from Americans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Greece Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry British defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2.67 expected hits British roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Greece, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Greece Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Greece, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Greece Germans win, taking Greece from British with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Turkey Germans attack with 3 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys British defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys in Turkey, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Turkey, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Turkey Germans win, taking Turkey from British with 3 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Americans with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Kansu Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys in Kansu, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kansu Germans win, taking Kansu from Chinese with 2 armour, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in Ukraine Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Novosibirsk Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 mech_infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novosibirsk Germans win, taking Novosibirsk from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry Battle in 110 Sea Zone Germans attack with 7 fighters and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone Germans win with 7 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Russia Germans attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Russia, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Russia Germans destroys 27PUs while taking Russians capital Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Vologda Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vologda, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vologda Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Shensi Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys Chinese defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys in Shensi, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shensi Germans win, taking Shensi from Chinese with 2 armour, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery moved from Kazakhstan to Tsinghai 2 aaGuns, 2 armour and 13 artilleries moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Shensi to Yunnan 3 mech_infantrys moved from West India to Persia 3 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Kansu to Szechwan 2 artilleries moved from Archangel to Smolensk 2 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel 2 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria 3 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria 2 infantry moved from Germany to Greater Southern Germany 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Romania 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 2 fighters moved from Turkey to Persia 1 fighter moved from Turkey to Caucasus 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novosibirsk to Caucasus 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Vologda to Smolensk 2 fighters moved from Russia to Smolensk 2 tactical_bombers moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Caucasus 5 infantry moved from Western Germany to France 2 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from Sweden to 113 Sea Zone 4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany 2 transports moved from 80 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Mozambique 1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory 1 armour moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 1 bomber moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 bomber moved from Greece to Western Germany 2 fighters moved from Greece to Bulgaria Place Units - Germans 2 carriers and 1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers placed in 112 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Union of South Africa 3 mech_infantrys placed in West India 3 infantry placed in Novgorod 1 infantry placed in Western Germany 1 mech_infantry placed in Germany Germans undo move 7. 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany Germans undo move 2. 2 tactical_bombers placed in Western Germany 2 fighters placed in 112 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,1,3,1,5,2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 105 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1 Germans collect 73 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 73 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 103 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -0.83 British : 1.00 Americans : 0.33 Chinese : -1.33 Russians : -0.33

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@axis-dominion said in 19L axis-dominion vs majikforce (allies) bm3:

@majikforce if you want, I can go axis again. give you another chance to redeem your allies ;)

LOL! Let’s see if I qualify as insane. Doing the same thing over again expecting a different result. I’m down! Fire it up!

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