G40 Balance Mod - Feedback Thread

  • '19 '17

    And I am as incredulous to see that you are serious about some of these islands’ strategic importance. We must play very different opponents.

    Eire is easily 10 times more strategic than Sicily, Sardinia and Crete, and it’s not worth posting an edit if I forgot to take it.

  • '19 '17

    @Gamerman01:

    @regularkid:

    Gamer, regarding the “Trade with Germany” NO, do you not agree that BM makes an later GDOW against Russia even more imperative than in vanilla?

    I wouldn’t argue against it, but I’m not sure yet.  Haven’t played enough BM.  I will say this.  It is hard to quantify the positional benefits of getting into Russia early.

    But now that I’m imagining doing like a G1 invasion of Russia, I immediately see the problem.  The problem is all the NO’s that were added.  You could fix this simply by making those NO’s (the lend lease ones and/or the +3 Allied one) dormant until round 3 or round 4 or something, instead of being at war NO’s.

    Interesting. Or maybe simply have the no Allied units NO always active?


  • 10 times?!  lol
    Alright, I’ll reveal a little something.

    Bombers on London threaten Rome if the Allies control Sicily or Sardinia.  That’s just one of several strategic possibilities for these islands.


  • @Gamerman01:

    @regularkid:

    Gamer, regarding the “Trade with Germany” NO, do you not agree that BM makes an later GDOW against Russia even more imperative than in vanilla?

    I wouldn’t argue against it, but I’m not sure yet.  Haven’t played enough BM.  I will say this.  It is hard to quantify the positional benefits of getting into Russia early.

    But now that I’m imagining doing like a G1 invasion of Russia, I immediately see the problem.  The problem is all the NO’s that were added.  You could fix this simply by making those NO’s (the lend lease ones and/or the +3 Allied one) dormant until round 3 or round 4 or something, instead of being at war NO’s.

    YAS! That might be just the thing. Good idea


  • @Adam514:

    Or maybe simply have the no Allied units NO always active?

    Yes, there are good possibilities like that
    The problem is way too much money being hinged to the at war status of Russia


  • Thanks, always great to feel appreciated


  • @Gamerman01:

    10 times?!  lol
    Alright, I’ll reveal a little something.

    Bombers on London threaten Rome if the Allies control Sicily or Sardinia.  That’s just one of several strategic possibilities for these islands.

    Yes lol, I was painfully aware of this in our game. Which is partly why I made it a point to get it back–in addition to depriving you of that NO. But I felt my swinging back to regain those islands hurt my strategic position…


  • I couldn’t get you with any gotchas, I know that  :-)

  • '19 '17 '16

    @simon33:

    Here’s a suggestion: Nullify the Mongolian rule if USSR declares on Japan.

    No one responded to this but I think it is a fair and rational alternative to the disincentive for USSR to DOW on Japan which is over the top in BM2.0 IMO.

    Any thoughts?

  • '19 '17

    @simon33:

    @simon33:

    Here’s a suggestion: Nullify the Mongolian rule if USSR declares on Japan.

    No one responded to this but I think it is a fair and rational alternative to the disincentive for USSR to DOW on Japan which is over the top in BM2.0 IMO.

    Any thoughts?

    Over the top as in too high of a disincentive? I think you overestimate the loss of the extra 2 per Lend-lease route, since the Mongolian rule is worth more in the early game (the most important part of the game) and Japan can then take Eastern Russia a lot easier. I’d prefer losing the 2 extra per Lend-Lease route than losing the Mongolian rule if I were to DOW on Japan.

  • '19 '17 '16

    6IPC per turn helps to defend Moscow.

    I’m surprised you’d prefer to lose that than the Mongolian rule which doesn’t normally provide much help to Moscow.

    I’m finding it actually difficult to take down Moscow in BM and much easier to defend. I don’t know, maybe (certainly) my German game needs some work but even so, shouldn’t a determined run to Moscow require major allied effort to stop if it can be stopped at all?

  • '19 '17 '16

    If Japan keeps the USA out of the war I think it should be almost impossible!

  • '19 '17

    I’ve taken Moscow on G6 and I was far from maxing it. If Germany goes for a G6 Moscow Russia cannot defend alone that’s for sure.


  • @Adam514:

    I’ve taken Moscow on G6 and I was far from maxing it. If Germany goes for a G6 Moscow Russia cannot defend alone that’s for sure.

    cuz u are G40 Jesus.

    So seems like we have narrowed down the prior list of candidate changes to:

    (1) Russian Lend Lease only starts no sooner than round 3, even if Germany declares war earlier…

    (3) 3 PUs to Japan for control of Okinawa and Iwo Jima while at war with USA.

    There didn’t seem to be really strong support for an Atlantic Wall NO.

    Thoughts?


  • Okinawa and Iwo J need some love to give the pacific a little more historical spice imo.


  • Holding Iwo and Okinawa gets Japan 5 IPC’s per turn?  Nooooooooo
    I think it’s too easy for Japan to get to 80+ income already
    1 IPC for Iwo and Okinawa each is already generous imo

  • '15 '14

    Agree. IPC value actually IS strategic value!

  • '15 '14

    I really think all this discussion are somehow getting out of end. I don’t want to see Japan getting a +5 NO for holding Tokyo each turn:D

  • '15 '14

    getting out of hand

  • '19 '17

    At the moment the Pacific money is concentrated in the DEI and the South Pacific. I think it would result in more interesting and varied gameplay if the money was spread out a bit in the Pacific, so there would be a reason to split fleets in some cases in order to maximise gains/deny income to the enemy.

    The bonus could be US, but since the statistics show an Allied advantage it would make sense to give it to Japan. Also, it goes a long way to put earlier JDOWs back on the table.

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