Would a "Flanking" bonus be appropriate? Does it fit the global scale of A&A?

Not saying these are at all perfect, but I posted about some potential Vichy house rules for 1940 a while back as well! Just thought I’d share here in case it sparks anything for you as well or anything to go along with your own!

I explain my thoughts in this post, but my hope was to avoid any massive deviations to the standard A&A game play. By that I mean, I didn’t want to go crazy adding or changing a ton of specific rules or anything that exist in the game already.

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/26099/vichy-france-global-1940?_=1688593330283

Is it possible for this game to be set it up so that every country could fight on it’s on; with one country destroying everyone else as the only victory condition? Say, combine Italy and France (with Spain and Portugal?) and let them go first? Britain goes 2nd? And perhaps add about 1 guy to every Chinese territory? What would the outcome of THAT game look like?

I posted this in another forum, perhaps this might be a better place to generate some interest.

I believe it would be much more efficient to have sub forums here by A&A version.

It can be hard to wade thru all the house rules in this forum when I might be looking for something specific to A&A pacific or AA50….

The map is still a mess. MS Paint’s paintbrush option doesn’t appear to lay an even coat, so I can’t auto-fill within national borders, meaning that each country must be painted by hand. I’m trying to figure out if it would be wise to invest in a WaCom tablet for this kind of work and would greatly appreciate any suggestions from some of the community’s seasoned mapmakers.

I’ve calculated income (IPC values) for all the major and minor powers in the game at this point, so let’s shift gears tonight and take a look at how that breaks down, with some additional points of interest for each country. Here’s an early (albeit incomplete) preview.

Allied Powers

United Kingdom & Dominions: 54

Representing His Majesty’s possessions and Commonwealth allies west of Suez. The U.K. starts with sevenof the Empire’s eight battleships in the Atlantic and Mediterranean, and one of its two battlecruisers. The British also field a pair of fleet carriers, divided between either station.

British Far East Command: 50

All British Empire forces east of Suez, inclusive of Australia and New Zealand. There are 10 INF in greater India alone, and another 4 in Malaya or on Singapore at game start. By contrast, Australia and New Zealand are virtually defenseless. A battleship, battlecruiser, cruiser, and two destroyers comprise the Royal Navy presence here.

France: 37

France is a going concern in this game, with powerful armies concentrated along the Maginot Line, the Alpine Line on the Franco-Italian border, and in North Africa. The French Indochina garrison is also formidable, with 1 INF, 1 ARTY, and 1 FTR. Powerful squadrons of the French Navy, including 2 BB and 1 BC, are at Toulon and Mers el-Kébir. A cruiser lays at anchor off Indochina. A troop transport in the Indian Ocean carries 1 additional INF and 1 AAA.

United States of America: 130

The wealthiest nation on Earth, but humbled by the Depression. The United States Navy counts ten battleships and one fleet carrier.

Pro-Allied Minors

United Netherlands: 28

Anticipating war with Japan rather than Germany, the Dutch spent heavily on air and naval defenses in the Indies, where a BC and a SUB patrol, backed by a TAC. At game start, a Dutch FTR on Java is the closest possible air cover available for Malaya. A modest increase to the army began more recently, but there can be no illusions about what will happen if Europe falls into another war.

Communist Powers

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics: 57

An industrial behemoth, the Soviets are arrayed against the Germans in the west and the Japanese in the Far East. The massive Red Army fields 24 infantry in total.

Axis Powers

Japan: 35

In terms of capital ships, the Japanese operate three BB and one BC, as well as two fleet carriers.

Italy: 22

Still smarting over the abandonment of her Entente partners in the last war, Italy has renewed its membership in the Triple Alliance. The Italian army in North Africa, amounting to 2 INF, 1 ARTY, 1 armored car (AC), and 1 ARM, is a significant threat to French possessions there. The Italian Navy includes 1 BB and 1 fleet carrier. Italy’s mobilization factor of 11 INF is high for a country of her size; by way of comparison, the British Far East Command fields 17 INF at game start, spread across a far wider operational area.

Pro-Allied Minors

Polish Commonwealth: 11

In this timeline, a client state of Germany. Considering the weight of Soviet metal arrayed on its eastern border, the Poles are likely to serve as the doormat over which its neighbors stomp with reckless abandon.

Siam 2

A client state of Japan. Poised to invade French Indochina at game start with a formidable army of 3 INF, 1 ARM, and 1 FTR. The Siamese navy is a destroyer, standing in for the pair of coast defense ships it operated historically.

I like the ideas of the trucks, the game does need some help moving troops

The general fix for the 2 movement for tourney rules to me is not good.

Could even limit the amounts of trucks, for countries like they do I. Battle of the bulge

Global 1942: Quick Start Guide

This module uses Alpha 2 and original out of the box rules unless specified here. This scenario begins in Dec 1941 with the Japanese attack at Hawaii. Germany is at the gates of Moscow and pushing her last strength to capture Moscow. Positions and units quantity, and type are based on actual positions for Dec 41.

Japanese Surprise Attack: On the first turn all Allied Naval and Air units on the Pacific maps defend at ONE against Japanese attacks. Land units fight normally.

Soviet-Japanese Non aggression Pact:  The Japanese may attack the Soviets only by announcing one turn before this intention. The Soviets can attack Japan only if all Soviet territories are under Soviet control. Note: if Japan attacks the Soviet Union any Mongolian forces bordering any Japanese forces are automatically at war with Japan
(Exchange units with Russian Infantry).

The new turn order, starting IPC total and control changes:
Soviet Union: 28
Control lost: Baltic States, Vyborg, Eastern Poland, Belarus, Smolensk, Western Ukraine, Bryansk, Bessarabia, Ukraine.
Germany 41
Control lost: Romania, Hungary
Control gained: Baltic States, Vyborg, Eastern Poland, Belarus, Smolensk, Western Ukraine, Bryansk, Bessarabia, Ukraine, Normandy, France, Yugoslavia, and Crete
Italy: 12
Control lost: Ethiopia, Italian Somaliland
Control gained: Greece, Tunisia, and Cyprus
Japan: 28
Control gained: French Indo China
USA: 52
UK: 30 Europe, 16 Pacific
Control gained: Ethiopia, Italian Somaliland
ANZAC: 10
China: 12 Territories
Vichy France: 7 (strict neutral)
Control gained: Southern France, Morocco, Algeria, Syria, and Madagaskar

Lend Lease: The US or UK player can send a total combined aid to the Soviet Union of 30 IPC. Procedure: Buy a transport(s) and place it off board in a Lend lease Box. These transports can’t be used for any other purpose other than Lend Lease. Each Transport sends a fixed 5 IPC (place IPC under transports). No more than 6 transports can be allocated for this purpose. Lend Lease aid is first available on turn 1. However, the Soviet player does not actually get the aid until turn 2. The IPC sent can only purchase non-infantry land units and air units of any type. Lend Lease cannot be used for Naval, Infantry, or factories, etc.

Interdiction: Any European Axis Submarine, Plane, or Surface ship located in open sea
(Not Baltic, Black, Mediterranean) can deduct 2 IPC each from this total. If they are located in any convoy box, they can cost 3 IPC each from this total.

Note: If Japan and the Soviet Union are at war, Japanese Submarines, Planes, and Surface ships located in Sea Zones in 3, 4, and 5 can cause reductions to Lend Lease payments.

Minor Axis Allies: Finland, Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary have unique forces (use German pieces) these automatically join the axis on turn 2. They can freely move on that turn and Germany can move into them or build units (Romania). Germany does not gain the income from these areas until they are activated on turn 2, or attacked earlier by the Soviet Union. The factory in Romania can start producing units on turn 2 as well.

This module does not use technology or National Objective rules. However, Paratroopers and Mechanized Infantry technology are standard rules. Paratroopers however are restricted to a one sea zone rule, which means they can’t cross any more than one sea zone before landing.

Changes in Strict Neutrality:  Attacking a strict neutral only activates other strict neutrals within 2 spaces of the invaded neutral. Vichy France is a special case. It is strict neutral; however, axis units may fly over or move thru these areas without triggering any change. Also, an attack from any player results in only war with the area under attacked; all other Vichy areas still remain neutral.

SETUPS:

SOVIET UNION:
Sea Zone 127: 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 115: 2 Submarines, 1 Destroyer
Karelia: 3 Infantry
Novgorod: 6 Infantry, 2 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 Armor,
1 Fighter, 1 Fighter-Bomber, 1 Air Base, 1 Naval Base, 1 Minor Factory, 1 AA gun
Archangel: 3 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Vologda: 2 Infantry
Russia: 10 Infantry, 4 Mechanized Infantry, 3 Artillery, 2 Armor,
2 Fighters, 1 Fighter-Bomber, 1 Bomber, 1 Major Factory, 1 Air Base, 1 AA gun
Tambov: 3 Infantry
Rostov: 3 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Volgograd: 6 Infantry, 2 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 Armor
1 Fighter, 1 Fighter-Bomber, 1 Air Base, 1 Major Factory
Urals: 1 Minor Factory
Kazakhstan: 1 Minor factory
Sea Zone 100: 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer, 1 Submarine
Amur: 4 Infantry, 2 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Armor, 1 Naval Base
Sea Zone 5: 1 Destroyer, 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 4: 1 Submarine

GERMANY:
Normandy: 2 Infantry, 1 Minor Factory, 1 Naval Base
Holland: 2 Infantry, 1 Naval Base
Paris: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 Fighters, 1 Airbase, 1 Minor Factory, 1 AA gun
Denmark: 1 Infantry
Norway: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Sea Zone 113: 1 Battleship, 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer, 2 Transports
Western Germany: 1 Infantry, 1 Major Factory, 1 Naval Base, 1 Air Base, 1 AA gun
Greater Southern Germany: 1 Infantry, 1 Minor factory, 1 AA gun
Germany: 2 Infantry, 2 Bombers, 1 Fighter, 1 Air Base, 1 Major Factory, 1 AA gun
Poland: 1 Infantry
Eastern Poland: 1 Infantry
Yugoslavia: Control
Greece: 1 Artillery
Crete: 1 Infantry
Vyborg: 2 Infantry
Libya: 1 Armor
Tunisia: 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Naval Base
Baltic States: 3 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Armor
Belarus: 6 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Artillery, 2 Armor, 1 Fighter, 1 Fighter-Bomber
Smolensk: 6 Infantry, 2 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Artillery, 2 Armor
Western Ukraine: 1 Infantry
Bryansk: 6 Infantry, 2 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Artillery, 2 Armor, 1 Fighter
Ukraine: 6 Infantry, 2 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Artillery, 2 Armor, 1 Fighter, 1 Fighter-Bomber
Sea Zone 103: 1 Submairne
Sea Zone 107: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 118: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 125: 1 Submarine

JAPAN:
Manchuria: 3 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Armor, 1 Fighter, 1 Minor Factory
Korea: 1 Infantry
Jehol: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Shantung: 1 Infantry
Kiangsu: 1 Infantry
Kiangsi: 1 Infantry
Kwangsi: 2 Infantry
French- Indo China: 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Bomber
Siam: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Japan: 1 Infantry, 1 Major Factory, 1 Air Base, 1 Naval Base, 1 AA gun
Sea Zone 6: 3 Battleships, 1 Cruiser, 2 Destroyers
Sea Zone 19: 1 Cruiser, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 20: 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 36: 1 Cruiser, 2 Destroyers, 1 Submarine, 1 Transport
Formosa: 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Sea Zone 25: 3 Carriers, 1 Destroyer, 1 Submarine, 3 Fighters, 3 Fighter-Bombers
Caroline Islands: 1 Cruiser, 1 Naval Base, 1 Air Base
Marshall Islands: 1 Naval Base

ITALY:
Northern Italy: 3 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Air Base, 1 Major Factory, 1 AA gun
Southern Italy: 3 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Armor, 1 Fighter,
1 Bomber, 1 Air Base, 1 Naval Base
Sea Zone 95: 2 Battleships, 1 Cruiser, 2 Destroyers, 1 Submarine, 2 Transports
Sardinia: 2 Infantry
Sicily: 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Sea Zone 94: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 96: 1 Submarine
Yugoslavia: 1 Infantry
Albania: 1 Infantry
Greece: 2 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry
Tobruk: 2 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 1 Fighter-Bomber
Bessarabia: 1 Infantry
Ukraine: 2 Infantry

MINOR AXIS ALLIES:
Finland: 5 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Hungary: 4 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Romania: 6 Infantry, 2 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Armor,
1 Fighter, 1 Air Base, 1 Minor Factory
Bulgaria: 4 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry

VICHY FRANCE:
Southern France: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 1 Naval Base
Morocco : 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Algeria: 1 Infantry
Syria: 1 Infantry
French West Africa: 1 Battleship, 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer, 1 Submarine, 1 Naval Base
French Madagaskar: 1 Infantry

UNITED KINGDOM:
Sea Zone 106: 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 111: 1 Battleship, 2 Cruisers, 1 Naval Base
Sea Zone 119: 1 Submarine, 1 Transport
United Kingdom: 3 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Armor, 3 Bombers, 1 Fighter,
1 Fighter-Bomber, 1 Major Factory, 1 Air base, 1 Naval Base, 1 AA gun
Sea Zone 110: 1 Carrier, 1 Fighter, 1 Fighter-Bomber, 2 Cruisers, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 125: 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Gibraltar: 1 Infantry, 1 Naval Base
Sea Zone 91: 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Malta: 1 Infantry, 1 Air Base
Alexandria: 1 Infantry
Egypt: 2 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Armor, 1 Fighter, 1 Naval Base
Sea Zone 98: 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Trans-Jordan: 1 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Armor, 1 Fighter
Anglo Egyptian Sudan : 1 Mechanized Infantry
Union of South Africa: 1 Transport, 1 Minor Factory, 1 Naval Base
Iraq: 1 Mechanized Infantry
West India: 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Fighter
Kwangtung: 1 Infantry
Shan State: 1 Infantry
Burma: 1 Infantry
India: 2 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Minor Factory, 1 Air Base
Ceylon: 1 Carrier, 1 Fighter-Bomber, 1 Destroyer, 1 Naval Base
Malaya: 1 Infantry
Sea Zone 37: 1 Battleship, 1 Submarine, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 41: 1 Submarine

UNITED STATES:
Eastern United States: 1 Infantry, 2 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Armor,
2 Fighters, 1 Fighter-Bomber, 1 Major factory, 1 Naval Base, 1 Air Base, 1 AA gun
Central United States: 1 Major factory, 1 AA gun, 1 Naval Base, 1 Air Base
Sea Zone 101: 1 Battleship, 1 Cruiser, 2 Destroyers, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 89: 1 Destroyer, 1 Submarine, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 64: 1 Cruiser, 1 Transport
Western United States : 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Fighter-Bomber, 1 Bomber, 1 Major Factory, 1 Air Base, 1 Naval Base, 1 AA gun
Sea Zone 10: 1 Carrier, 2 Cruisers, 1 Destroyer, 1 Fighter, 1 Fighter-Bomber
Sea Zone 31: 1 Destroyer
Hawaii: 1 Fighter-Bomber, 1 Naval Base, 1 Air Base
Sea Zone 26: 2 Battleships, 2 Destroyers
Sea Zone 13: 1 Submarine
Philippines: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter
Sea Zone 35: 1 Destroyer, 1 Submarine, 1 Transport

CHINA:
One Infantry on each Chinese territory and one Fighter in Szechwan

ANZAC
Sea Zone 42: 1 Cruiser
Northern Territory: 1 Infantry
Queensland: 1 Infantry
New South Wales: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 1 Minor Factory, 1 Naval Base
Sea Zone 62: 1 Transport
New Zealand: 1 Infantry
Sumatra: 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter ( ANZAC does not control Sumatra for income purposes)

@calvinhobbesliker:

@Seven_Patch:

Well the IPC value is even between both the Axis and the Allies (except the original global set up of 19 Allies Infantry), I’m hoping it doesn’t throw things off too much.

Glad you like it.

If they have equal ipc’s of units, allies win due to their greater economy

My changes to the additional Global setup pieces are equal so it would just add equal amount of IPC value to the base set up.  I haven’t checked on what the balance is like for the base set up, I would imagine that the Axis have more units to allow the Axis a chance to try and win early while the Allies have to survive until their economic power tilts things back in their favor.

The Allies did win though, historically speaking  :wink:

I give credit to the testers and designers of this game, a game of this size and scale can’t be easy to balance.

Japanese destroyers can carry one infantry.

typo.