A couple problems I have with this version

[Witt]

Germany only being able to build  4 units is frustrating when you have conquered all of Russia and have 19 IPCs and need to take London quickly. You can always change a few things to complicate  matters and lenghten a game, or play it as it is If you have only 3 hours spare.
It is a pretty map and playing can be funny as hell sometimes because there are so few spaces.

[lozmoid]

But if Germany has conquered all of Russia then surely she can use the old Soviet ICs? Or am I mistaken?

[Witt]

Yes Loz. Of course. When I let my wife beat me, I suggested she build 2 inf in Moscow
As well as 4 in Germany. That way she could attack London with 6 Inf and her 4 Air units. Eventually London fell (Turn 10). Is slow going!

[Ashkayel]

In fact, the US starting income is 17 (and not 15 as shown in the rulebook and on the IPC tracker), so a BB is affordable on Turn 1.

For the tanks, they have been at 6 IPC since Global 1940. I guess it made sense with the synergy with the new units (tactical bombers, mechanized infantry). For this game, tho, it’s hard to tell. But maybe 5 IPCs tanks in a map so small with so few units would be too strong? Don’t know.

[Gargantua]

build a fighter and 3 inf next tim Witt…

[Witt]

Thanks Garg. My wife did once. Didn’t like it.
Still need tonnes of Inf if UK(that would be me playing new people) buys 3 Inf each turn for England. By turn 6, which I think is earliest you can Sealion, UK has 12 ground units and 3 or 4 Fts. The game drags on and on…
Incidentally, It’s Wittmann or Hauptsturmfuhrer or Captain. What’s with the Witt? Sounds gay!
You trying to say something?

[Gargantua]

You better start liking your new nickname…

[Witt]

It has taken me 8 months to get a picture up and you disrespect me! We have many words for you in Italian, but I will say it in English: bugger!
It won’t catch on anyway. It’s not Germanic enough.

[theROCmonster]

@toblerone77:

Haven’t played yet… but the impression I get is that this game is a bit “Lucased” up a notch and it is the Jar-Jar Binks of A&A however I will reserve judgement until I play it.Â

I recommend the buy if you wish to teach new players, otherwise it is garbage!

[toblerone77]

I bought it bbecause I’m a longtime fan and an A&A collector. I did buy to teach. I did notice however that 1942 2009 edition is cheaper and about as easy to teach with. 1942.2 is much more expensive as the sequel to the “main” version of the game, which makes me nervous because essentially it means a huge price hike in A&A games. The cheapness and lack of materials at a 30 dollar MSRP seems to cconfirm this to me also. I don’t think 1941 is horrible but I’m weary of what this means for the franchise.

[theROCmonster]

How much is the newest version of 42 going for?

[toblerone77]

$65.00 USD Amazon is cheaper though.

[Most Holy]

The problem with this game is this: 2 people sit down to play it that have never played before and they will find it near impossible to win as the Allies. If it is supposed to be an introductory game for newbies then it will fail miserably. If however it was designed to be bought by hardcore A&A fans who either A: want to indoctrinate newbies into the A&A world by letting them be Axis and win all the time, then request something more complicated, or B: want to have some cool new sculpts. Then it will succeed albeit in a much smaller market share. If they wanted rookies to have fun with this simple and quick game they should have balanced it more to the detriment of ANY historical accuracy. Barring that a reprint of 42 or Classic would have done the trick to get new people into the game. As it is only with the help of veteran A&A folk will this game see any table time. That’s fine for us but WotC really dropped the ball on this opportunity to get fresh blood in any significant numbers.

That said, I love it and can’t wait to get some time with it to tweak it into a game worth playing when the hour gets late and there’s too much time to quit for the day and not enough time to play anything else.

[theROCmonster]

@Most:

The problem with this game is this: 2 people sit down to play it that have never played before and they will find it near impossible to win as the Allies. If it is supposed to be an introductory game for newbies then it will fail miserably. If however it was designed to be bought by hardcore A&A fans who either A: want to indoctrinate newbies into the A&A world by letting them be Axis and win all the time, then request something more complicated, or B: want to have some cool new sculpts. Then it will succeed albeit in a much smaller market share. If they wanted rookies to have fun with this simple and quick game they should have balanced it more to the detriment of ANY historical accuracy. Barring that a reprint of 42 or Classic would have done the trick to get new people into the game. As it is only with the help of veteran A&A folk will this game see any table time. That’s fine for us but WotC really dropped the ball on this opportunity to get fresh blood in any significant numbers.

That said, I love it and can’t wait to get some time with it to tweak it into a game worth playing when the hour gets late and there’s too much time to quit for the day and not enough time to play anything else.

agreed! First thing I did was drop everything in price down by 1, except arty and inf, and I added arty. Secondly I added the home capital of every country by 1 so having 16 with germany meant you could actually buy 5 units!

[cody341]

I like this game for what it’s intended for, it’s not necessarily ment to be a totally dictated by strategy- luck plays a huge part in it as well and i have come to terms with it.