Moved you guys to the tournament section…
2011 Tournament discussion (AA50-41)
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Top player starts the bidding.
Zhuk and Rd, you guys are free to start.
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Yoshi (allies, +9) over GI_Joe (axis)
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http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=24712.0
Gamerman01 (+12) over JWW
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No rest for the weary. Gamerman and Yoshi you can start when ready.
Yoshi starts the bidding.
Winner plays winner of RD and Zhuk game.
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Thanks for the reminder -
Yoshi and I have been bidding today. He just bid 9, so I have to decide which side I want. We will be starting soon.
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RD (allies +12) over Zhukov, 14 rounds.
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I tabulated the results of all games to see how many times Axis wins.
I excluded a few games that involved very inexperienced players, or two players that were totally mis-matched.I have Axis winning 12
Allies winning 6Axis is winning the one game currently being played, so if Yoshi wins, it will be 13-6.
League play for 2012 so far is Axis 15, Allies 5
Why are you all bidding so low for Allies? Why did I bid 8 for Allies vs. Yoshi?The statistics show you are likely to lose with Allies with a bid under 12 against a worthy opponent. The game has been out for over 3 years now. 2011 tournament and 2012 league results total 27 Axis wins to 11 Allied wins. I think we’re getting into the realm of “statistically significant”. I think it’s time to recognize we’re not going to “figure out the Allies”. It’s been 3 years. Time to admit 1941 is unbalanced in favor of the Axis. Probably about as severely as Revised was slanted towards the Allies. :-)
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we should slowly move to 1942
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Heck, why not all of us change at once?
It was my preferred version until I finally switched to 1941 in 2011 so I could participate in the league and tournament… A&A always started in 1942 until 2008… Hasn’t the novelty worn off yet? :lol
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42 would have a higher average bid than 41. The stats for 42 were always much more unbalanced then the stats for 41. It’s still a very good game, assuming the bid is appropriate.
Both versions of aa50 favor Axis with NOs. The fact that it’s ‘unbalanced’ makes it a better game then if it was ‘balanced’. Bids add some spice and variety.
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I think everybody agrees that axis has an advantage ; we would not bid otherwise :)
And remember, at the beginning here, people were bidding to get the allies !
If I remember well, average bid in revised was around 7-9 (but I almost did not play this scenario online, so I might be wrong). I’m not sure this was so much unbalanced.
The 41 version begins with a lot of battle - thus dices - on round 1. That makes the bid less relevent again on a particular game, since that can be totally wiped out by bad dices. But I believe something between 6 and 12 should be a good conclusion in the future (as I’m trying to predict, the interval is bigger :) ). Which would be an average / high bid according to where the conclusion leads, but still not an unbelievable gap imho.
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in 1942 we dont have problems with the monster japan as we have in 1941
we should take a look at 1942
at list to put it side by side with 1941
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in 1942 we dont have problems with the monster japan as we have in 1941
we should take a look at 1942
Yes! Tired of the fantasy scenario! Down with monster Japans and pathetically weak Chinas! Func would be proud.
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Is there a 1942 Battlemap Mod or Triple A module out there? I haven’t given a sniff to this game, as I have preferred 1941. I’m not going to give it up just like that, but I would like to take a look at it.
Is there also a forum on these boards somewhere for 1942?
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@The:
Is there a 1942 Battlemap Mod or Triple A module out there? I haven’t given a sniff to this game, as I have preferred 1941. I’m not going to give it up just like that, but I would like to take a look at it.
Is there also a forum on these boards somewhere for 1942?
Yes TDJ, there is a '42 version on battlemap. When you click on start a new map, you will see '41 listed as the 7th map down the list. '42 is right below it.
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AA50 discussion thread has a sub thread for '41 and one for '42.
How can you “prefer” 1941 when you don’t know anything about 1942?
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The 1942 map looks like the Earth decide to get obese and Russia massively increased in size at the top, Africa looks like a drunk painting by Picasso and southeast Asia…well, to me, 1942 is just a fancier version of Revised with the 1941 rules put in place.
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@The:
The 1942 map looks like the Earth decide to get obese and Russia massively increased in size at the top, Africa looks like a drunk painting by Picasso and southeast Asia…well, to me, 1942 is just a fancier version of Revised with the 1941 rules put in place.
Dude, we are NOT talking about Spring 1942.
Don’t you know that AA50 comes with a 1942 scenario?? :lol:
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@The:
well, to me, 1942 is just a fancier version of Revised with the 1941 rules put in place.
Exactly. It’s fun.
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