VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 4 - Balance 2.0

[VictoryFirst]

You are right, I forgot. I’ll just roll it here using the dice bot.

Sub
[dice 1d6<=2]

Fighters
[dice 4d6<=3]

[dicebot]

1d6<=2: 2; Hits: 1
4d6<=3: 4, 3, 3, 6; Hits: 2

[VictoryFirst]

Since the sub and the fighters rolls are sequential, you can assign the sub hit to the transport, ignore the air hits, submerge your submarine and roll for your transport. Or, you could assign the sub hit to your sub, assign the air hits to your transport an roll back with both units.

[VictoryFirst]

CORRECTION, since my sub has first strike your transport doesn’t get to roll back. In the second scenario, your sub doesn’t get to roll back.

[VictoryFirst]

@DoManMacgee said in VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 4 - Balance 2.0:

Stay. Since the sub must roll first for sneak-attack the Transport will be taken as a casualty if it hits.

I’ll just assume that this still holds up so that means this battle is over.

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst With that result, USSR Sub submerges. Just wanted to see if I’d get the extremely improbable event where all of your dice somehow missed. Carry on.

[VictoryFirst]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 submarine moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
              Germans take U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Americans
        1 submarine moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Norwegian Sea Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Finland to Norwegian Sea Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Archangel
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
              Germans take Karelia from Russians
        2 fighters moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Norwegian Sea Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Poland to Baltic States
              Germans take Baltic States from Russians
        1 armour moved from Baltic States to Poland
        1 armour moved from Hungary to East Poland
              Germans take East Poland from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R.
              Germans take Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians
        1 armour moved from East Poland to Poland

    Combat - Germans
        Strategic bombing raid in Archangel
            Bombing raid in Archangel rolls: 6 and costs: 6 PUs.
            Bombing raid costs 6 PUs
        Battle in Norwegian Sea Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 4 fighters and 1 submarine
            Russians defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport
            1 submarine owned by the Russians submerged
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Norwegian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the Russians lost in Norwegian Sea Sea Zone
            Germans win with 4 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Russians: 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 bomber moved from Archangel to Finland
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
        2 fighters moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to Finland
        2 fighters moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to Norway
        3 armour moved from Hungary to Poland
        2 armour moved from Germany to Poland
        21 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        3 infantry moved from Poland to Hungary
        1 aaGun moved from Austria to Germany
        1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
        1 aaGun moved from Poland to Hungary
        1 infantry moved from Rumania to Hungary
        1 artillery moved from Bessarabia to Hungary
        2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary

    Place Units - Germans
        13 infantry placed in Germany
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Northern Italy: 3 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Austria: 3 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 46 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0,67

Savegame

[VictoryFirst]

I accidentally did the correct thing lol. For some reason I thought you wanted to submerge your sub but I’m rereading your comment now and you actually wanted to stay at first.

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Yes. I worded my first post extremely poorly and that gave the impression I wanted the sub to stay and fight. What you ultimately did was likely correct. If anything looks off in the save file I’ll just edit it.

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Soviets attack Germans in Norwegian Sea:

[dice 1d6<=2]

[dicebot]

1d6<=2: 1; Hits: 1

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Russia to Karelia
        1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Karelia
        1 armour moved from Belorussia to Baltic States
              Russians take Baltic States from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Belorussia to East Poland
              Russians take East Poland from Germans
        3 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 armour moved from Baltic States to Leningrad
        2 infantry moved from Leningrad to Karelia
        4 artilleries moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
        4 armour moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
        10 infantry moved from Belorussia to Leningrad
        21 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.

    Combat - Russians
        Russians creates battle in territory Norwegian Sea Sea Zone
        Battle in Karelia
            Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 8 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 8 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 2/11 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Karelia
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia
            Russians win, taking Karelia from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Russians attack with 4 armour, 4 artilleries and 25 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 4 armour, 4 artilleries and 25 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 6/33 hits, 8.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 4 armour, 4 artilleries and 25 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Norwegian Sea Sea Zone
            Russians attack with 1 submarine
            Germans defend with 1 submarine
                Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in Norwegian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Norwegian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in Norwegian Sea Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
            Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Norwegian Sea Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Karelia to Leningrad
        1 aaGun moved from Russia to Karelia
        1 aaGun moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
        9 infantry moved from Leningrad to Karelia

    Place Units - Russians
        6 infantry placed in Leningrad
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Karelia: 9 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Leningrad: 9 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 1.00
Russians regular : -3.50

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 carrier and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 7 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
              British take Tunisia from Germans
        1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Western Mediterranean Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone

    Combat - British

    Non Combat Move - British

    Place Units - British
        1 carrier and 2 transports placed in Celtic Sea Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 17 PUs; end with 24 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Americans attack Germans in US Convoy Zone (6 IPC):

[dice 2d6<=3]
[dice 1d6<=4]

[dicebot]

2d6<=3: 1, 6; Hits: 1
1d6<=4: 1; Hits: 1

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst German sub returns fire (the one on the Soviet turn did not due to this version’s sneak attack rules):

[dice 1d6<=2]

[dicebot]

1d6<=2: 5; Hits: 0

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 fighters and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 destroyer moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Iceland to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
        1 armour, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 bomber and 2 destroyers
            Germans defend with 1 submarine
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 destroyers in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
            Americans win, taking U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 bomber moved from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone to United Kingdom

    Place Units - Americans
        2 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
        2 fighters placed in United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.33
Germans regular : 0.67

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[VictoryFirst]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 9 armour; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 armour moved from Poland to Baltic States
              Germans take Baltic States from Russians
        1 armour moved from Baltic States to East Poland
        11 armour, 4 artilleries and 27 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
        4 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in East Poland
            Germans attack with 12 armour, 8 artilleries and 39 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 12 armour, 8 artilleries and 39 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 9/59 hits, 16,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland
            Germans win, taking East Poland from Russians with 12 armour, 8 artilleries and 39 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 aaGun moved from Hungary to East Poland
        1 artillery and 17 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Rumania
        2 fighters moved from Norway to Germany
        1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Finland to Germany
        1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland

    Place Units - Germans
        9 armour placed in Germany
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Algeria: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Morocco: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Austria: 3 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Northern Italy: 3 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 40 PUs; end with 41 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0,33
Germans regular : -7,50

Savegame

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 submarine moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to Denmark Strait Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Leningrad to Baltic States
              Russians take Baltic States from Germans
        1 armour moved from Baltic States to Leningrad
        1 artillery moved from Karelia to Leningrad
        1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Karelia

    Combat - Russians

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 aaGun moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia
        4 armour, 4 artilleries and 25 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Stalingrad

    Place Units - Russians
        8 infantry placed in Leningrad

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 fighter and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
              British take Algeria from Germans
        1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Western Mediterranean Sea Zone to Azores Sea Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 fighter and 2 transports moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France
              British take France from Germans
        2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
              British take Netherlands-Belgium from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.

    Combat - British

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 armour moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom

    Place Units - British
        1 fighter and 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 destroyer moved from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
              British take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from Germans
        1 destroyer moved from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 2 transports moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Northern Italy
        2 fighters moved from United States to English Channel Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Karelia
        4 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
        4 infantry and 2 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
        Strategic bombing raid in Northern Italy
            Bombing raid in Northern Italy rolls: 2 and costs: 2 PUs.
            Bombing raid costs 2 PUs

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to France

    Place Units - Americans
        2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in United States
        1 transport placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 42 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[VictoryFirst]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 7 armour and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia
              Germans take Belorussia from Russians
        1 armour moved from East Poland to Baltic States
              Germans take Baltic States from Russians
        1 armour moved from Baltic States to East Poland
        1 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
        1 artillery and 17 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
        9 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Vichy France
        2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Austria

    Place Units - Germans
        7 armour and 1 infantry placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 37 PUs; end with 38 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0,33
Germans regular : 0,17

Savegame