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VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 4 - Balance 2.0
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The balance rules include (at the moment)
- No Special Cash Advance (SCA) for Germany
- One German sub from Bay of Biscay removed from starting setup.
- One German infantry from Romania removed from starting setup
Allied bid: 4 infantry in Ukraine
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Rumania: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 submarine moved from Denmark Strait Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from British 1 submarine moved from British Convoy 4 Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Halifax Sea Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from British 1 submarine moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from France to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to English Channel Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to North Sea Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Germany to North Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to Bessarabia 1 fighter moved from Poland to East Poland 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 transport owned by the British lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans win with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Battle in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 2 transports Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 transports in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits 2 submarines owned by the Germans lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British and 2 transports owned by the British lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 2 transports Battle in Bessarabia Germans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Bessarabia, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Bessarabia, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 6 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 6 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 7 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 7 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 infantry Battle in East Poland Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 5 infantry Russians defend with 4 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 5 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 0/7 hits, 1,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 5 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 2/7 hits, 1,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland 1 fighter owned by the Germans retreated 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 3 infantry owned by the Germans retreated to Poland Russians win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in North Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 transport British defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 transport in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,33 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in North Sea Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the British lost in North Sea Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in North Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 destroyer in North Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in North Sea Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in North Sea Sea Zone Germans win with 3 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine and 1 transport Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship and 1 destroyer British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 destroyer in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone Germans win with 1 battleship and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in English Channel Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in English Channel Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in English Channel Sea Zone Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Germans 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Czechoslovakia to Poland 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Austria to Hungary 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Rumania to Hungary 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Rumania 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 2 armour moved from Northern Italy to Hungary 1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Austria 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Poland 2 armour moved from Germany to Poland 2 armour moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Poland 3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 4 infantry moved from Eastern France to Germany 2 armour moved from France to Germany 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium 4 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 2 fighters moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Finland 1 fighter moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Germany 1 fighter moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 fighter moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 bomber moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Germany 1 fighter moved from East Poland to Germany 1 transport moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria 1 infantry moved from Denmark to Germany Place Units - Germans 13 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 40 PUs; end with 41 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -2,67 Germans regular : -3,50 British regular : -0,50 -
@VictoryFirst Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 2 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia 2 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia 1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia 1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad 2 infantry moved from Karelia to Leningrad 2 infantry moved from Leningrad to Belorussia 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Russia to Belorussia 1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Archangel to Russia 1 armour moved from Russia to Belorussia 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Siberia to Russia 1 armour moved from Russia to Belorussia 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Moscow to Belorussia 1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Belorussia 1 armour moved from Caucasus to Belorussia 1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Turkestan to Belorussia 3 infantry moved from Caucasus to Stalingrad 1 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus 1 armour and 4 infantry moved from Moscow to Belorussia 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from White Sea Sea Zone to Norwegian Sea Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Russians 1 aaGun moved from Moscow to Belorussia 1 aaGun moved from Archangel to Russia Place Units - Russians 8 infantry placed in Leningrad Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - British British buy nothing; Remaining resources: 25 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Malta to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Syria to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Palestine to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Libya British take Libya from Germans 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Libya 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Iran Combat - British Battle in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber and 3 fighters Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 fighters in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 fighters owned by the British lost in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Germans and 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone British roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone British roll dice for 1 bomber in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the British lost in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 battleship owned by the Germans lost in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone Germans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7 Casualties for British: 1 bomber and 3 fighters Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Non Combat Move - British Turn Complete - British British collect 16 PUs; end with 41 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 1.33 British regular : 0.00 -
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2d6<=3: 1, 3; Hits: 2
1d6<=4: 4; Hits: 1 -
@VictoryFirst Germans return fire:
[dice 2d6<=2]
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2d6<=2: 6, 2; Hits: 1
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@VictoryFirst Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Canada: 1 aaGun and 1 armour EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United States: 1 aaGun and 1 armour EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Americans buy 1 destroyer, 4 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from United States to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in Davis Strait Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport Germans defend with 2 submarines Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone Americans win with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Non Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Davis Strait Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 bomber moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to Iceland Place Units - Americans 1 destroyer and 2 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 4 infantry placed in United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -0.33 Germans regular : -1.00 -
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@VictoryFirst Stay. Since the sub must roll first for sneak-attack the Transport will be taken as a casualty if it hits.
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@VictoryFirst oops. Meant to say I do not have to choose whether I submerge until after your roll.
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You are right, I forgot. I’ll just roll it here using the dice bot.
Sub
[dice 1d6<=2]Fighters
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1d6<=2: 2; Hits: 1
4d6<=3: 4, 3, 3, 6; Hits: 2 -
Since the sub and the fighters rolls are sequential, you can assign the sub hit to the transport, ignore the air hits, submerge your submarine and roll for your transport. Or, you could assign the sub hit to your sub, assign the air hits to your transport an roll back with both units.
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CORRECTION, since my sub has first strike your transport doesn’t get to roll back. In the second scenario, your sub doesn’t get to roll back.
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@DoManMacgee said in VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 4 - Balance 2.0:
Stay. Since the sub must roll first for sneak-attack the Transport will be taken as a casualty if it hits.
I’ll just assume that this still holds up so that means this battle is over.
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@VictoryFirst With that result, USSR Sub submerges. Just wanted to see if I’d get the extremely improbable event where all of your dice somehow missed. Carry on.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone Germans take U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Americans 1 submarine moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Norwegian Sea Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Finland to Norwegian Sea Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to Archangel 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 2 fighters moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Norwegian Sea Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Poland to Baltic States Germans take Baltic States from Russians 1 armour moved from Baltic States to Poland 1 armour moved from Hungary to East Poland Germans take East Poland from Russians 1 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R. Germans take Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians 1 armour moved from East Poland to Poland Combat - Germans Strategic bombing raid in Archangel Bombing raid in Archangel rolls: 6 and costs: 6 PUs. Bombing raid costs 6 PUs Battle in Norwegian Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 4 fighters and 1 submarine Russians defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport 1 submarine owned by the Russians submerged Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Norwegian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Russians lost in Norwegian Sea Sea Zone Germans win with 4 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Russians: 1 transport Non Combat Move - Germans 1 bomber moved from Archangel to Finland 1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 2 fighters moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to Finland 2 fighters moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to Norway 3 armour moved from Hungary to Poland 2 armour moved from Germany to Poland 21 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 3 infantry moved from Poland to Hungary 1 aaGun moved from Austria to Germany 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 1 aaGun moved from Poland to Hungary 1 infantry moved from Rumania to Hungary 1 artillery moved from Bessarabia to Hungary 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary Place Units - Germans 13 infantry placed in Germany Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Northern Italy: 3 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Austria: 3 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 46 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0,67 -
I accidentally did the correct thing lol. For some reason I thought you wanted to submerge your sub but I’m rereading your comment now and you actually wanted to stay at first.
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@VictoryFirst Yes. I worded my first post extremely poorly and that gave the impression I wanted the sub to stay and fight. What you ultimately did was likely correct. If anything looks off in the save file I’ll just edit it.
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