Germany and Italy should not take Normandy until after Moscow falls

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@MarshmallowofWar

Ha! Funny that in this game time is with the Axis. Ah, Axis and Allies historical inaccuracies, am I right?

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@SuperbattleshipYamato said in Germany and Italy should not take Normandy until after Moscow falls:

@MarshmallowofWar

Ha! Funny that in this game time is with the Axis. Ah, Axis and Allies historical inaccuracies, am I right?

Very true.

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[shadowhawk]

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It makes little difference if the US can produce in normandy or not. Its 1.5 transports worth of units. And only if you can keep it. On the other hand its also 10-12ipcs extra income that could have gone towards russia.

Those 3 units dont make the difference of not having to protect transports, the protection of transports requires the same fleet if its it 5 or 6 transports.

Being able to land planes there to protect your beachhead might be usefull. True those planes dont protect your fleet but it depends on where your airforce is at that time. It cannot be everywhere at once and you being forced to keep more planes against the fleet just in case you can pounce the fleet takes them away from russia.

Also those 2 land units can be a pain in the ass. Since you dont attack normandy you cannot kill them off and they can at any inconvenient time take over S-france, holland, paris or any 2 of those. So you always need a big enough force to protect against that. Would i take paris with just 2 units if germany and italy dont have a counter in place, hell yea. If you dont take it quick it will be reinforced and if you do that means 1-2 more rounds for russia.

[ampdrive]

I usually stack a sizable Italian force in Paris to attack anything that lands in Normandy,S.France,or Holland.That way I’m sending as many Germans as possible to crush the Soviets.
If doing a sealion ,I need to take Normandy G2 so I can build 1 or 2 carriers in sz 110 .

[Zhukov44]

A lot of Axis players do this, but I see it as a good development if I’m allies. Any left over French units could be annoying in the early rounds. You have to be sure you can counter France if they take it and get the bonus infantry.

Axis won’t get the +2. Just holding Normandy for 3 turns is 2 more infantry. Axis will need a larger force in France than otherwise to prevent Allies from getting a foothold because USA will be able land their planes in Normandy right off the bat. If you don’t contest the allied landing in Normandy, Allies will be able to trade for Southern France.

A combined Italian-German stack in Normandy is strategically preferable to a stack in France, provided you have the manpower.

If USA could concentrate all its resources on the Atlantic front it would be a different story. But dual victory conditions means that if USA invests enough to make Germany pay for taking Normandy, then they likely didn’t invest enough in the Pacific to stop Japan.