Game 2: VictoryFirst (Axis) vs barnee (Allies) - G40 House Rule Expansion by The Captain

[barnee]

@victoryfirst wow i never encountered that. I’ll explore it. Sounds cool if so, although i really don’t mind dicebot. he’s kinda grown on me lol

But yea that would speed things up if so. One caution is that triplea does weird stuff sometimes when edit on. I don’t understand it all but errors pop up sometimes.

Anyway. I will check that out :+

[barnee]

@VictoryFirst the dice rolls also show up in history. I have to dbl check, but i think it’s the same order as in th battle window. Start lowest to highest bu t i can’t remember.

Yea that would be way cool. Those huge naval battles kind of a pita to hand roll. Paras only matter when by themselves, so not that big a deal. but yea I will check out after i finish Late 1942 off :)

[barnee]

@VictoryFirst

EXP Game2 F 4.tsvg

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 Escort, 1 fighter and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        2 armour moved from New South Wales to Queensland

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 Escort and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
        1 fighter placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs
        Trigger ANZAC Liberates DNG Turn4: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 13 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 18 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 62 Sea Zone: 1 Escort
        EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 62 Sea Zone: 1 Escort_Convoy
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

[barnee]

@VictoryFirst I just tried the edit thing in combat. F yea ! Good find ! Gotta use your brain a little bit, but way faster than dicebot.

i think the only thing we need dicebot for is LMs now. We’ll see how it goes. Feel free to play that way the rest of the game. If no bugs, I’ll add it to Notes in next update. Probably do a notification at Game Start too

[barnee]

@VictoryFirst here’s a new place

place.txt

it’ll fix the bessarabia Flow. i’ve gotta tweak the xml so factories don’t move in there place but that won’t work till an update.

[barnee]

@VictoryFirst another connection error. Marianas and Paulau. I notified Elk.

[Black_Elk]

Nice work! Just sent ya a new one with those corrections. Tried to use the lip trick so it wouldn’t jack up the place too hard. Hopefully got it dialed this time. But let me know if you find any others

[barnee]

@black_elk F yea that looks good. We even got a little extra room for carolines. maybe I can squeeze another dude or two in.
@VictoryFirst I should have it dialed sometime AM for you.

[barnee]

@VictoryFirst Back in Action :) Same link https://github.com/beelee1/global_40_expansion_uhd
Just slam the whole thing in. The xml changes won’t show in our game. I’ll do the bigger update after our game.

I did tweak a few placements. Mainly UKR and Rostov so Bessarabia Flow won’t hit early placements by them.

[barnee]

@VictoryFirst F heres a new place if u want. S Italy spills into Albania instead of Greece now. Probably won’t be too many dudes in Albania :)

place.txt

[barnee]

@VictoryFirst

lol :)

[VictoryFirst]

@barnee

One note, just to let you know - Russia can destroy its facilities (including Air and Naval bases) for free, as per rule 9.3, Demolition of Air and Naval bases.

I believe in your Russian turn, you paid 8 PUs for this demolition. This means you would have had extra money to spend that turn. If you wanted to buy something from that 8 PUs (you had also 12 PUs saved, so you have 20 PUs in total to spend), that must be done now before I start my German turn. If you decide to purchase something, you can say to me, and I’ll edit than in prior to the German combat moves :)

Thanks for the new place. The clearer, the better! That’s why I bought a new table top map for G40. Same size, but the most important territories are made larger. Things were getting so crowded on my previous map!

[barnee]

@victoryfirst Good catch I been playing that wrong too lol

Note: USSR can destroy their Air & Naval bases
at no cost – same demolition rules as for their
factories.

I will make them so they auto destroy same as Fctrys.

I guess just add the 8 bucks to the bank

[VictoryFirst]

@barnee

COMMENT: +8 PUs for Russia

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Note to players Germans: <body><b>It is Early 1942 and Our Waffen Infantry Divisions are Reforming as Panzer Grenadiers.<br><br>4 Divisions are Now Available in Berlin.<b></body>
        Trigger WaffenPnzrGrndr: buyWaffenPnzrGrndr added to productionGermans
        Germans buy 3 GermanUBoats, 2 Panzer_Grndrss, 2 WaffenPnzrGrndrs, 2 armour, 1 elite, 1 fighter, 1 german_para and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Place Units - Germans
        Units in Germany being upgraded or consumed: 2 Panzer_Grndrss
        2 WaffenPnzrGrndrs placed in Germany

    Combat Move - Germans
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceGermans: Germans has 2 Rails placed in Germany
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing PUs for Russians from 58 to 66
        COMMENT: +8 PUs for the Russians
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
        4 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
        2 german_paras moved from Romania to Belarus
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Vyborg
        1 waffen_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 1 Waffen_Arty, 1 Waffen_Oberst, 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 9 infantry and 2 waffen_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
        1 Waffen_Arty, 1 Waffen_Oberst and 2 waffen_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
        3 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        2 bombers moved from Southern France to Western Ukraine
        1 GermanUBoat moved from 109 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Morocco to 104 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Western Ukraine
        1 Panzer_General3, 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 elite and 9 infantry moved from Baltic States to Novgorod

    Combat - Germans
        Germans creates battle in territory 119 Sea Zone
        Battle in Novgorod
            Germans attack with 1 Panzer_General3, 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 elite and 9 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry and 1 russian_minor
                Germans roll dice for 1 Panzer_General3, 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 elite and 9 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 11/24 hits, 8,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
            Some non-combat units are destroyed: 
            Germans win, taking 119 Sea Zone from Americans, taking Novgorod from Russians with 1 Panzer_General3, 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 elite and 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in 114 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
            Russians defend with 1 cruiser
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 114 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
            Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser
        Battle in Karelia
            Germans attack with 4 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 4 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia
            Germans win, taking Karelia from Russians with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Ukraine
            Germans attack with 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 2 Waffen_Artys, 2 Waffen_Obersts, 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 9 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 5 waffen_infantrys
            Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 elite, 5 infantry and 1 russian_minor
                Germans roll dice for 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 2 Waffen_Artys, 2 Waffen_Obersts, 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 9 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 5 waffen_infantrys in Ukraine, round 2 : 13/35 hits, 13,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 elite and 5 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 2,50 expected hits
                5 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 elite owned by the Russians, 4 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
            Some non-combat units are destroyed: 
            Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 2 Waffen_Artys, 2 Waffen_Obersts, 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 5 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 5 waffen_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
            Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun, 1 elite and 5 infantry
        Battle in Western Ukraine
            Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 elite and 3 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 2,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 elite and 3 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 2,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 elite in Western Ukraine, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 elite owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
            Germans win with 2 bombers and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 elite and 3 infantry
        Battle in Belarus
            Germans attack with 2 german_paras; Changer loiter and taunt
            Changer defend; Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll GermanAirborneAttack dice in Belarus : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 german_paras in Belarus, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
            Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 2 german_paras remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Vyborg
            Germans attack with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vyborg, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vyborg, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vyborg
            Germans win, taking Vyborg from Russians with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in 104 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 GermanUBoat and 1 fighter
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans roll dice for 1 GermanUBoat in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 104 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 GermanUBoat and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermansItalyTakeover: has removed 2 Rails owned by Germans in Bessarabia
        Trigger Urals Tank Unit: Russians has 1 armour placed in Urals
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Morocco to Southern Italy
        1 fighter moved from 104 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 aaGun moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        2 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        2 WaffenPnzrGrndrs moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
        1 elite moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        1 german_para moved from Germany to Romania
        1 Rail and 1 elite moved from Germany to Bessarabia
        1 Rail and 1 infantry moved from Germany to Bessarabia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Vyborg to Finland
        2 bombers and 2 fighters moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
        1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 Panzer_Grndrs moved from Western Germany to Germany

    Place Units - Germans
        2 infantry placed in Southern France
        2 Panzer_Grndrss placed in Germany
        2 armour placed in Germany
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Poland: 1 Panzer_Grndrs
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 1 Panzer_Grndrs
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 fighter placed in Western Germany
        1 elite and 1 german_para placed in Germany
        3 GermanUBoats placed in 110 Sea Zone
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 125 Sea Zone: 1 GermanUBoat
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 119 Sea Zone: 1 GermanUBoat
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 infantry placed in France
        2 infantry placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 52 PUs; end with 53 PUs
        Trigger Germans AdvancedProduction: Germans met a national objective for an additional 12 PUs; end with 65 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0,33
Russians regular : 1,00
Germans regular : 2,67
Germans GermanAirborneAttack : -0,67

EXP Game 2 G5.tsvg

[barnee]

@victoryfirst
EXP Game 2 R 5.tsvg

So I fckd up the big battle a little. I guess when Army Group Flags are present, should do the edit battle as they don’t get a hit point.
Also I had 3rd Corps active out of moscow and they shouldn’t have been.

We can reroll it if you want, but the ultimate outcome won’t change and you rolled exceptionally well, so i doubt it’d be an improvement. Most likely a worse outcome.

Your choice tho

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Note to players Russians: <body><b>It is Early 1942 and Comrade Stalin has Ordered Mass Conscription for the Red Army !<br><br>Up to 26 Army Conscripts are Available This Turn Only.<b></body>
        Trigger Army Conscript: buyArmy_Conscript added to productionRussians
        Russians buy 6 1_PUs and 26 Army_Conscripts; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; 

    Place Units - Russians
        3 1_PUs placed in Caucasus
        3 1_PUs placed in Soviet Far East

    Combat Move - Russians
        Trigger Russians RemoveLendLeaseFee: has removed 3 1_PUs owned by Russians in Soviet Far East
        Trigger Russians RemoveLendLeaseFee: has removed 3 1_PUs owned by Russians in Caucasus
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 Europe_Rail and 2 Rails placed in Russia
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Soviet Far East: 3 usa_armours
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Soviet Far East: 3 armour
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Caucasus: 2 uk_fighters and 1 uk_tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Caucasus: 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Russians takes Bulgaria from Germans
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
        EDIT: 1 russian_para moved from Rostov to Bulgaria
        1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Soviet_Commisar, 1 Soviet_Commisar_3, 4 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 elite, 16 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        3 infantry and 2 russian_paras moved from Rostov to Ukraine
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Ukraine
        9 Russian_Rocketss, 1 Soviet_Commisar_3, 3 armour, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine

    Combat - Russians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Battle in Belarus
            EDIT: Changer loiter and taunt; Russians attack with 2 artilleries and 5 infantry
            EDIT: Germans defend with 2 german_paras; Changer defend
                EDIT: 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                EDIT: 2/7 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                EDIT: 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
            EDIT: 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 german_paras owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
            EDIT: Russians takes Belarus from Germans
            EDIT: Russians win
            EDIT: Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is 5
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Battle in Ukraine
            Russians attack with 1 ArmyGroupActive, 9 Russian_Rocketss, 1 Soviet_Commisar, 2 Soviet_Commisar_3s, 7 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 elite, 4 fighters, 19 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys, 2 russian_paras and 2 tactical_bombers
            Germans defend with 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 2 Waffen_Artys, 2 Waffen_Obersts, 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 5 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 5 waffen_infantrys
                Russians roll dice for 9 Russian_Rocketss in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/9 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                9 Russian_Rocketss owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Soviet_Commisar, 2 Soviet_Commisar_3s, 7 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 elite, 4 fighters, 19 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys, 2 russian_paras and 2 tactical_bombers in Ukraine, round 2 : 17/52 hits, 17.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 2 Waffen_Artys, 2 Waffen_Obersts, 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 5 waffen_infantrys in Ukraine, round 2 : 20/30 hits, 15.67 expected hits
                19 infantry owned by the Russians, 4 waffen_infantrys owned by the Germans, 1 ArmyGroupActive owned by the Germans, 2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 1 artillery owned by the Russians, 1 Waffen_Oberst owned by the Germans, 4 infantry owned by the Germans, 2 Waffen_Artys owned by the Germans and 3 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Soviet_Commisar, 2 Soviet_Commisar_3s, 7 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 elite, 4 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys, 2 russian_paras and 2 tactical_bombers in Ukraine, round 3 : 13/32 hits, 13.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 Panzer_General3, 1 Waffen_Oberst, 5 armour and 1 waffen_infantry in Ukraine, round 3 : 6/12 hits, 6.33 expected hits
                2 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians, 1 Panzer_General3 owned by the Germans, 1 waffen_infantry owned by the Germans, 1 ArmyGroupActive owned by the Russians, 3 artilleries owned by the Russians, 1 Waffen_Oberst owned by the Germans and 5 armour owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
            Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 Soviet_Commisar, 2 Soviet_Commisar_3s, 7 armour, 1 artillery, 1 elite, 4 fighters, 2 russian_paras and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
            Casualties for Germans: 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 Panzer_General3, 2 Waffen_Artys, 2 Waffen_Obersts, 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 5 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 5 waffen_infantrys
            Casualties for Russians: 1 ArmyGroupActive, 9 Russian_Rocketss, 4 artilleries, 19 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 Europe_Rail owned by Russians in Western Ukraine
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 2 Rails owned by Russians in Bryansk
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Russia
        1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
        1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
        1 Europe_Rail and 1 elite moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
        1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        1 aaGun moved from Archangel to Belarus
        1 armour moved from Urals to Russia
        5 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda
        2 Rails moved from Russia to Siberia
        1 armour moved from Soviet Far East to Amur
        2 Rails moved from Siberia to Soviet Far East
        2 Rails and 2 armour moved from Soviet Far East to Bryansk
        1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Russians
        6 Army_Conscripts placed in Volgograd
        20 Army_Conscripts placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 33 PUs; end with 41 PUs
        Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 44 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 4.00
Russians regular : -3.50
EDIT: : -0.83

[barnee]

@VictoryFirst hmm … I just reread the Revised rules and it doesn’t say anything about Army Groups not counting as a hit point. I thought I had asked The captain at some point and that they didn’t.

I’m not certain though.

@The-Captain Do Army Group Markers get a Hit Point ?

[VictoryFirst]

@barnee

Alright, I just looked at that battle, and there are indeed some errors in it. I don’t think the result will be much different though if we reroll, so I think it’s best if we continue this as it is. No problem brother :)

To answer your question - no, Army Groups are not separate units that can be selected as a casualty. They just provide an extra two die rolls in combat, when certain conditions are met, and that is 2 armies + 10 other land-based combat units.

In round 2, you had only 8 land-based combat units, so the AG bonus should have been removed as well. I think in these big battles we have to use EDIT mode so that we can remove those AGs in mid-battle. This will make these battles a bit more difficult though, since we have to count up all the hits manually.

Anyway, the general who came up with the idea to move into Ukraine will get shot at once!

[barnee]

@victoryfirst heh heh the fuhrerer approves. I think I had enough for a AG though. @ corps and that 3rd corps counts. I will look again.

Yea this our second game and the biggest battle ever :)

We still working it out :)

I think edit is what we’ll have todo for AG battles. We both had one though so, figured a wash. You crushed on rolling even with my extra Corps activated lol

Tough duty but you can still recover the situation. I had 10 more dudes survive in test battle lol

All good Brother :) The War Continues

[barnee]

@VictoryFirst yea had 1st and 2nd Corps with 2 Tanks and a mech each as well as 16 Inf and 5 Arty from start, so enough for AG.

Anyway, it’s only game 2 were both still learning. The Edit thing you found is Awesome !

Totally Agree. Army Group is an Idea, All Units Contribute. Armies/Corps are represented by Individual Units

I’ve been playing for over 15 years with triplea, and have never encountered it :)

The Edit Thing lol

No one on the triplea site has ever said anything about it either. Maybe they did, but not well documented if so.

Probably close to 20 years. The unstables were way less than anything 1.xx lol :)

ha ha ha :grin:

[The Captain]

Hi @barnee,

An Army Group Marker has only one purpose:

• To indicate the increased strength by cohesion of the Armies and combat units within that Army Group.
  This cohesion is rewarded with 2 extra dice rolles in both defense (“5”) and attack (“4”).

An Army Group Marker does not count as a combat unit or Facility - the Army Group Marker can therefore not be chosen as a casualty or take any damage hit.