L22 Pejon_88 (X) vs. Gamerman01 (A+15), BM4, game #2

[gamerman01]

No, I think you’re pretty confused.

1 AA vs 3 bombers should on average take down 1/2 a bomber

2 AA vs 6 bombers should on average take down 1 bomber

Now let me know what you’re seeing after trying a few more things.

[Pejon_88]

@gamerman01 Yes looked now. +4TUV -> -50TUV :O

[gamerman01]

@pejon_88 said in L22 Pejon_88 (X) vs. Gamerman01 (A+15), BM4, game #2:

@pejon_88 My bad forgot the AAA shoots at maximum 3 air. If I’m not mistaken 60 bombers versus 20AAA should result in 30 attackers left, but calculator says 50? Adding an inf -> 49.71.

Am I thinking this entirely wrong?

Yeah, 20 AA against 60 bombers, so 60 rolls @ 1 or 10 hits. Sounds like your calculator is right. Is it Triple A?

[Pejon_88]

@gamerman01 Screenshots:

Looks correct?

[gamerman01]

Yes it looks correct, thank you. Mine isn’t doing that. Good thing I didn’t start posting publicly

[gamerman01]

Now mine’s working. I’ll go back to the game I was playing when I noticed the error. Something’s strange…

[gamerman01]

It’s something in that game. I tried it with different countries, so it’s not like a UK Pacific bug or anything.

Wait, in that game it’s working for Germany vs. UK, but not vs. ANZAC

I had been doing a calculation on Japan vs. UK/ANZAC and realized the error, now it also doesn’t work Japan vs ANZAC

Germany vs. ANZAC works…
Japan’s not working against anyone. Can you replicate that? Japan on offense against AA?

[gamerman01]

US v anyone doesn’t work
Russia v anyone doesn’t work
Japan v anyone doesn’t work
Germany does work

OK, some combinations work and some don’t. Seems to depend on the combination of which powers??

[gamerman01]

OK, I don’t get it.

I did US vs. Germany like you did and it didn’t work for me.

Different combinations work, others don’t.

[Pejon_88]

@gamerman01 In our game I seem to get the same result wherever territory I run the calculator from.

[gamerman01]

Thanks a lot - wow, I’ll have to keep an eye out for that then

[gamerman01]

It’s bugging me every day that I don’t move - it’s a big one though. Will see this through until it’s time to give up

[Pejon_88]

@gamerman01 Thanks for the heads up.

[gamerman01]

Triple move in progress - I have to continue later

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[Pejon_88]

@gamerman01 Ok!

[gamerman01]

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More of same :expressionless:

[Pejon_88]

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            Italians attack with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 infantry
            British defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2,83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the British lost in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            Italians win, taking Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 bomber and 4 fighters moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
        1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
        1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        2 armour moved from Caucasus to Rostov
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Rostov
        2 infantry moved from France to Western Germany

    Place Units - Italians
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 97 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Egypt

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4,5,4,3,4
        Italians collect 18 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 18 PUs
        Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0,17
British regular : -0,33

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Yeah, that was a horrible dice round for the Allies!

[gamerman01]

Round wasn’t over, here’s more… could have been worse I guess
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[Pejon_88]

@gamerman01 Didn’t think you would sacrifice two transports performing that maneuver.

[Pejon_88]

Round: 8

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 7 infantry, 1 marine, 8 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 114 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
        1 bomber moved from Egypt to Northwest Persia
        1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Bryansk
        2 infantry moved from Rostov to Volgograd
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Volgograd
        1 armour moved from Caucasus to Kazakhstan
              Germans take Kazakhstan from Russians
        1 armour moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        1 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda
              Germans take Vologda from Russians

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Volgograd
            Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Volgograd, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd
            Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Bryansk
            Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 bomber in Bryansk, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk
            Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
        Battle in Northwest Persia
            Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry
            British defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the British lost in Northwest Persia
            Germans win, taking Northwest Persia from British with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
        Battle in 114 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
            Russians defend with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                1 submarine owned by the Russians and 1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 114 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
            Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Finland
        1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to 115 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Finland
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Vyborg
        1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
        1 bomber moved from Bryansk to Eastern Poland
        3 artilleries moved from Ukraine to Rostov
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Rostov
        1 bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Romania
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Egypt
        2 armour and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine
        3 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Rostov
        1 mech_infantry moved from France to Western Germany
        4 mech_infantrys moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
        1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
        1 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia
        1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        1 fighter moved from 114 Sea Zone to Novgorod
        1 fighter moved from 114 Sea Zone to Western Germany

    Place Units - Germans
        1 armour, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany
        3 infantry placed in Novgorod
        3 infantry placed in Ukraine
        1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
        1 artillery, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 4 mech_infantrys placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,2,4,3,3,4
        Germans collect 53 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 53 PUs
        Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
        Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 65 PUs
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 80 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 0,67
Germans regular : -2,17
British regular : -0,33

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