L22 #1 trulpen (X+6) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V


  • @trulpen

    Scramble to defend DD in SZ 56?



  • Depends on what you’re sending.


  • Ah, the game file ended up on the next page. I’ll check in a while when I get home.


  • No scramble, thanks.



  • L22 #1 trulpen (+6) vs artw P2V.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 3

       Purchase Units - Italians
    
           Italians buy 1 destroyer and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Italians
    
           1 unit repaired.
    
           1 infantry moved from Greece to 99 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from Greece to 99 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Cyprus
    
           2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Crete
    
    
    
       Combat - Italians
    
           Battle in Cyprus
    
           Battle in Crete
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Italians
    
           1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
    
           2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
    
           1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland
    
           1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
    
           2 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
    
           1 armour, 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
    
    
    
       Place Units - Italians
    
           1 destroyer placed in 99 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry placed in Northern Italy
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Italians
    
           Italians collect 13 PUs; end with 17 PUs
    
           Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 20 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :


  • @trulpen

    Given the 90%+ chance of an ANZAC victory, I did not scramble fighters to defend SZ 35. Will roll dice on forum if you wish.

    Trulpen-v-AoW-FR3.tsvg


  • It was the right choice.


  • L22 #1 trulpen (+6) vs artw P2V.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 4

       Research Technology - Germans
    
    
    
       Purchase Units - Germans
    
           Germans buy 1 airfield and 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Germans
    
           1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
    
                 Germans take Ukraine from Russians
    
           1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
    
                 Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
    
           1 infantry moved from Karelia to Archangel
    
                 Germans take Archangel from Russians
    
           1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
    
                 Germans take Leningrad from Russians
    
           1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
    
                 Germans take Northern Belarus from Russians
    
           1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Southern Belarus
    
                 Germans take Southern Belarus from Russians
    
    
    
       Combat - Germans
    
           Trigger Germans Destroy Factories Leningrad: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Germans in Leningrad
    
           Trigger Germans Destroy Factories Ukraine: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Germans in Ukraine
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Germans
    
           Trigger Leningrad Has Fallen to Germans Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Leningrad_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed attached to Germans
    
           Trigger Ukraine Has Fallen to Germans Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Ukraine_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed attached to Germans
    
           1 aaGun and 6 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
    
           1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Northern Belarus
    
           1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 21 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
    
           3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Poland
    
           7 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
    
           8 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
    
           1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 101 Sea Zone to Western Germany
    
           1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Greece
    
           1 fighter moved from Bessarabia to 101 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from Bessarabia to Greece
    
           2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Greece
    
           1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Western Germany
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Greece
    
           1 submarine moved from 122 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Western Germany
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Greece
    
           3 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
    
           1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
    
           2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
    
           1 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
    
           3 armour moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
    
           1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
    
    
    
       Place Units - Germans
    
           1 airfield placed in Greece
    
           10 infantry placed in Germany
    
           2 infantry placed in France
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Germans
    
           Germans collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs
    
           Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
    
           Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 62 PUs
    
           Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :



  • L22 #1 trulpen (+6) vs artw P2V.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 4

       Purchase Units - Japanese
    
           Japanese buy 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 8 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Japanese
    
           1 infantry moved from Shansi to Inner Mongolia
    
           1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Honan
    
                 Japanese take Honan from Chinese
    
           1 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma
    
                 Japanese take Burma from UK_Pacific
    
           1 infantry moved from Manilla to 21 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from Shantung to 20 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Korea
    
           1 destroyer moved from 46 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
    
           3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from 43 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
    
           2 bombers moved from French Indo China to Inner Mongolia
    
           1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
    
                 Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
    
           1 fighter moved from 43 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Inner Mongolia
    
           1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Inner Mongolia
    
    
    
       Combat - Japanese
    
           Battle in 56 Sea Zone
    
               Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               Americans defend with 1 submarine
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits
    
                   Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
    
                   1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 56 Sea Zone
    
               Japanese win with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
    
               Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
    
           Battle in 35 Sea Zone
    
               Japanese attack with 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,67 expected hits
    
                   ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 35 Sea Zone
    
               Japanese win with 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
    
               Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer
    
           Battle in Inner Mongolia
    
               Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               Chinese defend with 1 infantry
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2,33 expected hits
    
                   Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Inner Mongolia
    
               Japanese win with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
    
               Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
    
               Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
    
           Battle in Korea
    
               Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               Russians defend with 1 infantry
    
                   Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Korea, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
    
                   Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Korea, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Korea
    
               Japanese win, taking Korea from Russians with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
    
               Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Japanese
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to 6 Sea Zone
    
           2 carriers moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 destroyer moved from 45 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery moved from Malaya to Shan State
    
           1 marine moved from Malaya to 38 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 38 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
    
           1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kwangtung to Hopei
    
           1 infantry moved from Shantung to Jehol
    
           1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shansi
    
           1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
    
           1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
    
           1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Hunan
    
           1 infantry moved from Hunan to Hopei
    
           1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow
    
           1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
    
           1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Hopei
    
           1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
    
           1 aaGun moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
    
           2 artilleries moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
    
           1 infantry moved from Celebes to 45 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
    
           2 infantry moved from Borneo to 37 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
    
           2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Southern Manchuria
    
           1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from Inner Mongolia to Shansi
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Inner Mongolia to Jehol
    
           1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
    
           1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
    
           1 marine moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone
    
           2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from 56 Sea Zone to Davao
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 56 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from 56 Sea Zone to Davao
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Davao
    
           1 battleship, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Southern Manchuria
    
           1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao
    
           1 marine moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone
    
           2 bombers moved from Inner Mongolia to Jehol
    
           1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 22 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
    
           1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to Manilla
    
    
    
       Place Units - Japanese
    
           2 carriers and 2 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
    
           3 infantry placed in Shantung
    
           3 infantry placed in French Indo China
    
           1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Japan
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Japanese
    
           Japanese collect 61 PUs; end with 61 PUs
    
           Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 64 PUs
    
           Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 0,67

    Americans regular : -0,17

    Japanese regular : 0,50

    ANZAC regular : -0,33

    Russians regular : -0,33




  • Update. Put up a blocker in the Med.

    L22 #1 trulpen (+6) vs artw P2V.tsvg



  • Just saw that you took Suriname from the Dutch with US. What I know you can only do that after having declared war on the true neutrals and only ANZAC and UK may grab dutch territories during NCM. Hence changed it, but if I’m wrong we can change it back.


  • @trulpen

    I believe it is a legal move, but I am not sure. The Dutch are listed as Friendly to the US and Custodianship to the Brits and ANZAC. So, you may well be correct. Have you tried a simulation to see if the AA program changes possession to the US or does not?


  • @artofwar1947

    Just ran a sim. You are correct, moving a US land unit into Suriname on NCM does not change its ownership. Please edit.


  • That’s how I would interpret the rules from the Pacific:

    “These two powers also have an arrangement with the Dutch government in exile (Holland having been captured by Germany) and have taken guardianship of the Dutch territories in the Pacific. As a result, they are free to move units into these territories as a noncombat movement at any time, as long as they have not yet been captured by Japan. They may actually take control of them (gaining their IPC income) by moving land units into them. Additionally, the United Kingdom and ANZAC consider attacks against any Dutch territories to be acts of war against them directly. Once a Dutch territory has been captured by Japan, however, it may be captured and controlled by any power.”

    Wonder what would happen if US attacked the Dutch? Actually, then they would be at war and already allied to UK and ANZAC, so wouldn’t matter, I guess.

    Here’s the german move anyway.

    L22 #1 trulpen (+6) vs artw P2V.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 5

       Research Technology - Germans
    
    
    
       Purchase Units - Germans
    
           Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Germans
    
           1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Novgorod
    
                 Germans take Novgorod from Russians
    
           1 infantry moved from Archangel to Nenetsia
    
                 Germans take Nenetsia from Russians
    
           1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda
    
                 Germans take Vologda from Russians
    
           2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
    
           1 bomber moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
    
           1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Ukraine
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Ukraine
    
           1 submarine moved from 128 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 127 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
    
    
    
       Combat - Germans
    
           Battle in Ukraine
    
               Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
    
               Russians defend with 2 infantry
    
                   Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Ukraine, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 3,83 expected hits
    
                   Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
    
                   2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
    
               Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
    
               Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
    
           Battle in 127 Sea Zone
    
               Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
    
               British defend with 1 destroyer
    
                   Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 127 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 127 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
                   1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 127 Sea Zone
    
               Germans win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
    
               Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Germans
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 127 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
    
           1 aaGun, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 21 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Smolensk
    
           1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Smolensk
    
           8 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Smolensk
    
           3 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Northern Belarus
    
           9 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
    
           8 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
    
           1 aaGun moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
    
           3 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
    
           1 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
    
           10 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
    
           1 fighter moved from Greece to Southern Italy
    
           1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia
    
           2 bombers moved from Ukraine to Leningrad
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
    
           1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus
    
           1 fighter moved from Ukraine to 99 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 99 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Ukraine to Smolensk
    
    
    
       Place Units - Germans
    
           1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 115 Sea Zone
    
           1 factory_minor placed in Leningrad
    
           2 fighters placed in Western Germany
    
           1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Germany
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Germans
    
           Germans collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUs
    
           Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
    
           Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 64 PUs
    
           Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : -0,67

    Germans regular : 0,83

    British regular : -0,33

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