L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V


  • TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 16

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 16
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 airfield, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            3 fighters moved from Sardinia to 95 Sea Zone
            4 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Gilbert Islands to 49 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 49 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 48 Sea Zone to New Britain
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in New Britain
            Battle in Solomon Islands
            Battle in 95 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 7 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 7 fighters in 95 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 95 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 95 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking New Britain from Japanese, taking Solomon Islands from Japanese with 7 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from Sardinia to 97 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 2 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from Morocco to United Kingdom
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern United States to Morocco
            2 fighters moved from 95 Sea Zone to Morocco
            3 fighters moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            2 carriers, 3 destroyers and 3 submarines moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 50 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 10 carriers, 2 cruisers, 12 destroyers, 17 fighters, 8 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 34 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Midway to Soviet Far East
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Soviet Far East
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 3 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 11 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 9 Sea Zone to 3 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 3 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone
            1 airfield placed in Morocco
            1 submarine placed in 104 Sea Zone
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Siberia from Japanese to Americans
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Soviet Far East: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Siberia: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Morocco: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to United Kingdom: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
    
        Combat - Chinese
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 3 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British repair damage of 4x harbour; Remaining resources: 38 PUs; 
            British buy 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            5 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Stalingrad to Rostov
            2 fighters and 7 submarines moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 100 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Sardinia to 99 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Germans scrambles 3 units out of Northern Italy to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone
            Germans scrambles 3 units out of Yugoslavia to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone
            Germans scrambles 3 units out of Southern Italy to defend against the attack in 99 Sea Zone
            Battle in Rostov
                British attack with 5 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 5 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Rostov, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Rostov
                British win, taking Rostov from Italians with 5 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 8 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 destroyer and 9 fighters
                    British roll dice for 8 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 9 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 7/10 hits, 6.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Germans, 3 fighters owned by the Germans and 7 submarines owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the British, 1 bomber owned by the British and 4 fighters owned by the British retreated
                1 submarine owned by the British retreated to 97 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 6 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for British: 7 submarines
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer and 3 fighters
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Yugoslavia
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Yugoslavia
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Yugoslavia
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Southern Italy
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Southern Italy
            Moving scrambled unit from 99 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Southern Italy
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Sardinia to 97 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            2 submarines moved from 83 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from Southern Persia to Eastern India
            1 aaGun, 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Central India to Eastern India
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Persia to Central India
            1 artillery moved from Southern Persia to Northwest Persia
            2 infantry moved from Southern Caucasus to Northern Caucasus
            2 infantry moved from New Brunswick Nova Scotia to 109 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from South Australia to Eastern India
            1 bomber moved from Southern Persia to Egypt
            5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Stalingrad
            2 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
    
        Place Units - British
            1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Southern Persia
    
        Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 8
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 112 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2,5,3,5,1,1,6,4,1,6,2
            British collect 27 PUs (8 lost to blockades); end with 27 PUs
            Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 30 PUs
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 33 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Eastern India
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 40 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,4,2,4
            UK_Pacific collect 4 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 4 PUs
            Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 7 PUs
            Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 97 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 99 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Southern Italy: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Egypt: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Malta: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -0.50
    Italians regular : -0.33
    Germans regular : 0.33
    British regular : -0.17
    

    Savegame


  • @artofwar1947

    UK Bomber redo: [dice 1d6<=3]


  • 1d6<=3: 3; Hits: 1


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 16

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 16
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
    
        Combat - Italians
            Battle in Rostov
                Italians attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 mech_infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the British lost in Rostov
                Italians win, taking Rostov from British with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from Rostov to Yugoslavia
            2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Northern Italy
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 destroyer placed in 97 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,6,4,5
            Italians collect 12 PUs; end with 16 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : 0,33
    British regular : -0,33
    

    Savegame


  • @dicebot said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

    1d6<=6: 4; Hits: 1

    The roll is actually 4, so no need to reroll.


  • @trulpen

    I think bombers hit at 3 in PTV; re-rolled a 3.


  • @artofwar1947 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

    @trulpen

    I think bombers hit at 3 in PTV; re-rolled a 3.

    True, but I’m thinking the first roll is valid even though the <=6 was wrong. It’s mainly a cool effect for simplifying results.

    Just for clarity, I would’ve said the same thing if the situation was reversed, so not trying to just get some advantage, but think it’s more a matter of comme-il-faut and praxis.


  • Anyway, what did it attack?


  • Hmm, if it attacked the des in z99 it’s very dead. I don’t understand the attack really.


  • Sorry, I read “US-bomber”, but it was a UK-bomber. All well.


  • Although I’d say it missed.


  • @artofwar1947

    The UK bomber was supposed to be a part of the attack on the German DD and 9 German fighters. Another UK miss; sure, par for the course.

    What else could go wrong? Right, the UK sub in SZ 97 was supposed to go from SZ 100 to SZ 99 during the CM but overshot and went to SZ 97. I am happy to leave it there though.


  • Isn’t the sub in z97 from retreating?


  • @trulpen said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

    Isn’t the sub in z97 from retreating?

    Ah, it was a sub by S Fr?


  • @trulpen said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

    Isn’t the sub in z97 from retreating?

    No subs in z95, but 7 started in z97 and 1 in z100. The sub in z97 is from the retreat. If you want, you could’ve saved the one that moved from z100 and it would then end up in z101 doing some convoy disruption work.


  • Of course, now there was a roll in z99 which influences.


  • But I’d say it’s more logical to retreat into a convoy zone, especially when there are no threatening des around. On the other hand the sub gets westward easier from z97.


  • @trulpen

    I am up against a work deadline. I’ll get back to this when I have the time and sleep to think.


  • @artofwar1947 said in L21 #1 trulpen (X+12) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

    @trulpen

    I am up against a work deadline. I’ll get back to this when I have the time and sleep to think.

    Take your time.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: French round 16

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

    Game History

    Round: 16
    
        Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy nothing; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - ANZAC
    
        Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 3 submarines moved from 34 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - ANZAC
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 64 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1
            ANZAC collect 8 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 16 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 19 PUs
    
        Combat Move - French
    
        Turn Complete - French
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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