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AA50 Rules Errata and Q+A
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If a fleet consists of Surface ships and subs and the attacking force is all air units, can the subs be taken as casualties?
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@Emperor:
If a fleet consists of Surface ships and subs and the attacking force is all air units, can the subs be taken as casualties?
I can’t find it in the rules, but I’m fairly certain the answer is no, the subs cannot be taken as casualties. Not to mention the fact that even if they could, the subs cannot hit air units and can submerge before the any units fire, so there would be no reason not to submerge. However, I would like to ask the question, can attacking aircraft hit subs in combats that started with a destroyer, but in combat rounds when the destroyer is no longer alive? I see most sub combat rule exceptions apply only when an opposing destroyer is on the battle board, but I cannot find this specifically in the rules, and the presence of this statement being iterated in the rules seems to suggest that, in some cases, subs can take hits from aircraft not accompanied by a destroyer: “Whenever a round of combat starts and a
submarine is in combat with only aircraft, it can submerge (before aircraft fire).” However, even if the implication is true, the statement is still a little strange according to my understanding that whenever a round of combat starts and a
submarine is in combat with any variety of units not accompanied by a destroyer, it can submerge (before the units fire). -
The answer to EM’s question is no and it is clarified in the FAQ.
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However, I would like to ask the question, can attacking aircraft hit subs in combats that started with a destroyer, but in combat rounds when the destroyer is no longer alive?
Destroyers only cancel subs’ abilities (including not being able to be hit by planes) when they are currently in the battle. If all opposing destroyers are sunk, the subs’ abilities will be restored in the following combat round.
I see most sub combat rule exceptions apply only when an opposing destroyer is on the battle board, but I cannot find this specifically in the rules, and the presence of this statement being iterated in the rules seems to suggest that, in some cases, subs can take hits from aircraft not accompanied by a destroyer: “Whenever a round of combat starts and a
submarine is in combat with only aircraft, it can submerge (before aircraft fire).” However, even if the implication is true, the statement is still a little strange according to my understanding that whenever a round of combat starts and a
submarine is in combat with any variety of units not accompanied by a destroyer, it can submerge (before the units fire).Yes, the statement is confusing. You’re right, subs can submerge before anything fires unless there’s an opposing destroyer, regardless of what other unit types are attacking. However, hits from air units may never be applied to subs without a destroyer present.
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If America gets long range aircraft, does this apply to the flying tigers?
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No. The Flying Tigers are a Chinese unit, and powers can’t share technology developments.
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The Japanese fleet has just killed the India fleet, with a cruiser and a transport left in the indian sea zone. UK produces a Cruiser and a transport in the indian sea zone.
Can the Japanese retreat one sea zone, pick up troops, return to the indian sea zone (ideally with air support) and launch an amphibious assault? Basically, can the Japanese retreat from the hostile sea zone and return during the same turn?
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Yes, as long as the sea zone being “retreated” into is friendly.
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If you capture or liberate a territory that has a damaged IC I assume that the IC remains in that damaged condition until whomever the owner is repairs it? correct?
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many times i have repaired stalingrads factorie as germany. of course i bombed them the turn before :evil:. answer is: yes
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another small question:
If japan captures the brit AA in PER and then russia recaptures PER does the aa return to Brit control or is it now RED!
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i dont think aa guns can be liberated :) 99.9% red :evil:
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Sorry, Atarihuana, you’re wrong on this one. The UK gets the AA gun, unless its capital is held by the enemy, in which case the USSR gets both the territory and the AA gun (at least temporarily).
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wow :-o thx for clarification. :-)
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I guess I should elaborate on this further. Any time a territory changes hands, whether captured or liberated, any ICs and AA guns in that territory change ownership to the new owner of the territory.
Of course, there is one exception. The situation involves when your capital is held by the enemy and your ally captures one of your former territories from the enemy rather than liberating it because of this. When your capital is liberated, you get the territory back from your ally, but he/she gets to keep any AA guns in it.
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The UK gets the AA gun, unless its capital is held by the enemy, in which case the USSR gets both the territory and the AA gun (at least temporarily).
This is what I read from the rulebook.
Any time a territory changes hands, whether captured or liberated, any ICs and AA guns in that territory change ownership to the new owner of the territory.
This is what confuses me a bit.
Just to clarify: “New owner” in the given example (Russia recaptures=liberates PER from Germany) means “original controller”=Britain.
So in the second when Russia liberates Persia for Britain ownership switches to Britain.
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Yes.
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when placing newly purchased ships, they can be placed in any sea zone adjacent to your IC, correct?
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Yes.
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Another question:
One of the SU’s NO is: “Gain 5 IPC if no Allied forces are present in a territory controlled by the SU and if the Soviets control Archangel.”Let us consider a scenario, in which the SU controlls and holds only Russia and Archangel. All other soviet territories are captured by Axis powers.
The SU will still gain 5 IPC because no Allied forces are present in one of the two territories controlled by the SU.
Am I right?
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