[Global 1940] Air units fly over question

[AxisAndAllies1940]

Can air units fly over enemy units (including AAA) in NCM? Or do they have to do so in Combat Move? Thanks.

Moderator’s edit: Changed title to give an idea about the content of the thread. (Was:“A Question That I Really Ought To Know The Answer To”)
Moderator’s edit: Added tag [House Rules] to title.
Moderator’s edit: Changed tag to [Global 1940] as this thread had been moved here from the Global Forum.

[Snigg]

Certainly.  Just can’t fly over neutrals (and impassible areas like Himalayas).

[Caesar-Seriona]

The old school AA gun rule should really still be in play, the G40 rules made AA guns more useless than before.

[AxisAndAllies1940]

Thanks. I agree, we need to bring back the Europe 99 rules for AA guns.

[simon33]

Except for the part about AA guns being captured by the enemy rather than destroyed.

[AxisAndAllies1940]

Yeah. We do not need to bring that bit back for sure.

[Caesar-Seriona]

I just don’t get why they couldn’t merge the rules together, it does give AA guns more power but it certainly won’t change the outcome of the war.

This is a house rule I have no issue using.

AA Guns returns to their former glory, they can shoot at aircraft on both standard combat and strategic bombing attacks. AA guns fire at all enemy aircraft that passes over. AA guns can be taken as casualties. The only rules I’d do differently is the AA guns in a factory/airfield/naval base acts now like a standard AA gun except it obviously can’t be taken as a casualty.

[simon33]

So you have two AA gun shots at strategic bombing raids? What about escorting fighters, do they get shot at too?

[baron Münchhausen]

OOB AAA is used to make Sea Lion possible without giving UK to much useful land combat unit.
With AAA you can give more hits without actually giving offense or defense roll (as usual unit) when you have less planes attacking per AAA *3 planes.

[Cow]

The aa guns rule was made so that india and uk pacific wouldn’t die every game round 3.

[AxisAndAllies1940]

Now: part 2

If on Combat Move an air unit has to fly over other enemy units to take part in a battle, must it fight those enemy units, or may it ignore them? Example: the British fighter on Malta taking part in Taranto. Can that fighter fly over the Italian destroyer, or must it fight its way out (and therefore not be able to take part in Taranto at all)?

[Caesar-Seriona]

They are automatically ignored, only naval ships in the attacking sea zone combat against aircraft.

[AxisAndAllies1940]

Thanks very much!

[Caesar-Seriona]

To a degree it makes sense that aircraft can ignore naval ships and thus the ships can’t see them due to lack of technology for its time as well as how big the ocean territories are however I had a situation where I had Hawaii Blockaded with a full navy and Japanese bombers can legally fly from the island even though the carriers for sure would pick them up on radar.

[General 6 Stars]

I agree where they should get a AA shot at planes if you housed ruled in Battleships or Cruisers have AA guns. One time shot and or defenders figs can have a 1 round of dog fight.
Or u just rule in no flying over enemy occupy sea zones if there are planes and carriers and or AA equipped Battleships or Cruisers.
But I perfer a combat round happens instead.

[Caesar-Seriona]

I’d rather do the dog fight rule, it makes a lot more sense.

[General 6 Stars]

@Caesar:

I’d rather do the dog fight rule, it makes a lot more sense.

Yes that’s what I meant by combat.