@ncscswitch:
Sorry, but when the Arch diocese starts apologizing for the “lost innocence” of people that were sexually abused by priests, call that an open and shut case of ADMITTING that they failed to control their employees.
Oh yea, forgot, in your world the Catholics are ALL christians. There are no protestants or luthurens or mormons or non-demoninational or episcipalitans or any other sects, JUST catholics.
WTF are you talking about :?
@ncscswitch:
Yep, let’s just pay out $600 million for the hell of it.
Goddess forbid they go to trial if they are INNOCENT and pay NOTHING… :roll:
That’s what I was going to say. I’m sure proving you are innocent would cost less than $660 million, but if you are not…
the juries will be from liberal areas anyways. the people who do this arent dumb. they will go to were the people already will give the theives their cash to punish the church not for the crime with no evidence, they’ll just punish it b/c they dont agree with its policies towards gays, abortion, etc. the liberals would salivate at the chance.
you see how its a lose lose situation. the church just decided that a priest going to court, getting railroaded, and having the liberal media have a hayday with it isnt worth it.
and that quote from the cardinal, of course he’ll say something like that. if he said the truth, he’d be blasted in the press for it. dont you ever think of that.
the juries will be from liberal areas anyways. the people who do this arent dumb. they will go to were the people already will give the theives their cash to punish the church not for the crime with no evidence, they’ll just punish it b/c they dont agree with its policies towards gays, abortion, etc. the liberals would salivate at the chance.
you see how its a lose lose situation. the church just decided that a priest going to court, getting railroaded, and having the liberal media have a hayday with it isnt worth it.
and that quote from the cardinal, of course he’ll say something like that. if he said the truth, he’d be blasted in the press for it. dont you ever think of that.
unbelievable……truly scary…I’m at a loss for words.
You keep saying “there’s no evidence”, but what evidence can there be in cases like this? Witnesses?
One of the main causes of the reformation was the sexual deviances of the Catholic priesthood. Men are sexual beings, priests or not, and allowing them to marry cured their deviances better than anything. And now the evidence from the dead sea scrolls suggests that Jesus was married, and there’s nothing in the Bible saying priests cannot marry, the best cure for this problem is to ditch the senseless insistence on celebacy in the priesthood.
If the problem was restricted to one country or one age there might be a case for the defence, but the problem is everywhere there are Catholic priests, and has gone on so long as there have been Catholic priests. That’s not to say that anything more than a small minority are involved, but that’s still far too many.
unbelievable……truly scary…I’m at a loss for words.
are you an idiot? have you not watched anti smoking groups lose and jump to a liberal area and be assured of a liberal jury, and win. and get huge sums of money. it doesnt take a rocket scientist. its actually really smart. your denial or ignorance doesnt change that.
And now the evidence from the dead sea scrolls suggests that Jesus was married,
oh really? even among historians, which i am close to being, think thats a stretch. we know the source, but it doesnt really prove or say anything that would make anyone think that but someone who wants to think that.
and did you know the cases among priests are lower than cases with pastors, reverends, imams, rabbi’s and are lower perctanges than the country as a whole?
and i know a small minority is too much. but really, if you want to be a millionare, ever really strapped for cash, just say some priest touched you. doesnt matter when, you dont even need a really good story, just say they touched you and wait for payday.
i was serious about above post where i said i’m thinking about it. these student loans wont pay themselves off. and i got the perfect back story too. i was an alterboy for my gradeschool. anyone would by my bs made up story, and i’d be rich! hell yeah, i only need to get over the selling the soul part, but a couple of million bucks is sounding like a deal.
lmao close to a historian yeah… toot your own horn there buddy.
no i mean when you graduate with a major in history and a minor in russian language the major i went to school for makes me a historian. i’ve been through the hellish process of learning how to write books. books people read for knowledge. we know how to see through bs b/c we all have to use primary sources and its just peoples interpretations of these sources that gets them to their conclusion. we notice peoples bias when the do reports on a subject and come out with a conclusion that fit the mold they wanted before they started research.
lmao
are you an idiot? have you not watched anti smoking groups lose and jump to a liberal area and be assured of a liberal jury, and win. and get huge sums of money. it doesnt take a rocket scientist. its actually really smart. your denial or ignorance doesnt change that.
What in the hell are you talking about?
and did you know the cases among priests are lower than cases with pastors, reverends, imams, rabbi’s and are lower perctanges than the country as a whole?
How would you know if there is no evidence of it?
Furthermore, why would that exonerate the priests that do diddle with little kids’ fiddles?
no i mean when you graduate with a major in history and a minor in russian language the major i went to school for makes me a historian. i’ve been through the hellish process of learning how to write books. books people read for knowledge. we know how to see through bs b/c we all have to use primary sources and its just peoples interpretations of these sources that gets them to their conclusion. we notice peoples bias when the do reports on a subject and come out with a conclusion that fit the mold they wanted before they started research.
lmao
balungaloaf’s History of the World: How Eve Was A Stinking Liberal And Screwed Up Everything
thats actually a really good name for a book. especially in this politically charged time of ours, it just may sell a couple thousand due to its name.
there is no evidence of it, what it is is reported cases.
Gee bung….we share a major…just I wouldn’t go so far as to classify myself as a historian. May I ask what books you have written. I would like to give them a read.
not a book, but a thesis, which should count as a book by all purposes.
such a catchy title too, real imaginitive.
Alexanders Companion Calvary - it’s gotta be on file somewhere in the arts and sciences database for University of Nebraksa at Omaha.
hey, i would like to just ask you, since i dont get it, and it hasnt went to public in my country like in yours did
why did the Church payed that money, i mean the priest should respond for what he did, or was it beacuse the accusation said that Church was covering it
i mean, i know its not so simple, and Church in some things cant be compared to other organizations but every priest is (besides Churches) under state law, and he must respond for what he did
all this things, to pay money to ˝get even˝ something is simply questionable
Libyan case considering Bulgarian nurses is similar, if they so much wanted to help, they could take the money and put it in some fund for fighting AIDS, not trying to compensate it by making millionares of its population, there is no money which can garantee that its even, or, i dont how to say better
Amon-Sul
its an orchastrated shakedown. thats easy to see.
and it will continue. they are trying to bankrupt the big diocese in big cities. many people see this, but liberals are blinded like normal by their indoctinated hatred for catholics b/c of the church’s policies.
if you want to make a million, you know what to do now. make something up about a priest. thats so f’ing evident its not even funny any more.
its an orchastrated shakedown. thats easy to see.
and it will continue. they are trying to bankrupt the big diocese in big cities. many people see this, but liberals are blinded like normal by their indoctinated hatred for catholics b/c of the church’s policies.
if you want to make a million, you know what to do now. make something up about a priest. thats so f’ing evident its not even funny any more.
well, when someone from USA speaks like that about these issue, i wont even ask are you a catholic or not, but what you re saying is pretty serious, to accuse somebody( especially a priest ) for doing something like these, and not just that, to try earn some money on it
God helps us!
indeed.
as i’ve already said, priests have lower cases of abuse of minors than anybody else around.
look at liberal judges giving child molestors probation for years of abuse. look at child rapists getting 1 year of jail. this is rediculous!
but then look at the priests, who the accusers have no proof,(in most other cases there is proof) and they get millions of dollars.
this has been going on for some time now. and will continue to go on. i wouldnt be suprised to see bigger settlements than $660 million!
has any other religious organization been targeted for these claims. have the protestants, jews, muslims?..…no they havent.
and they have a bigger percentage of cases, but they dont have the cash! cash that goes to feed the hungry, shelter homeless, and to combat diseases goes to line the pockets of liars. i’m gonna say 50-60 % of these people are liers with no scruples. and more will come.
indeed, GOD HELP US!
indeed.
as i’ve already said, priests have lower cases of abuse of minors than anybody else around.
look at liberal judges giving child molestors probation for years of abuse. look at child rapists getting 1 year of jail. this is rediculous!
but then look at the priests, who the accusers have no proof,(in most other cases there is proof) and they get millions of dollars.
this has been going on for some time now. and will continue to go on. i wouldnt be suprised to see bigger settlements than $660 million!
has any other religious organization been targeted for these claims. have the protestants, jews, muslims?..…no they havent.
and they have a bigger percentage of cases, but they dont have the cash! cash that goes to feed the hungry, shelter homeless, and to combat diseases goes to line the pockets of liars. i’m gonna say 50-60 % of these people are liers with no scruples. and more will come.
indeed, GOD HELP US!
Maranatha, Marantha…
Amon, the reason the Church was sued and not the Priest is because those filing the charges claimed that the Church was responsible for failure to act on the transgressions by these priests over the years.
As has been shown in court filed documents in many of these cases already, there is a documented history of complaints against Priests over the years for these actions, and the response of the church was to RELOCATE the Priest to a new diocese. This had the effect of FACILITATING the abuse instead of ending it (had the Priest been removed completely).
ever think the church moved them b/c they knew the complaint was BS? why get rid of someone for something he didnt do. so they can say, hey he didnt do anything, but a jury of liberals will screw them anyways, and then the media will say that it DID happen b/c the jury found them accountable.
doesnt make it so.
its an orchastrated shakedown. thats easy to see.
and it will continue. they are trying to bankrupt the big diocese in big cities. many people see this, but liberals are blinded like normal by their indoctinated hatred for catholics b/c of the church’s policies.
if you want to make a million, you know what to do now. make something up about a priest. thats so f’ing evident its not even funny any more.
well, when someone from USA speaks like that about these issue, i wont even ask are you a catholic or not, but what you re saying is pretty serious, to accuse somebody( especially a priest ) for doing something like these, and not just that, to try earn some money on it
God helps us!
Well, he IS Catholic, so there is bias.
Civil cases can last until money/stamina is exhausted, just about. Here is a rundown of how they work: http://www.scselfservice.org/civ/default.htm
In this case, we see that the Church elected to settle for $660 million. What this means is that the case is dismissed if the plaintiff accepts the settlement offer. Now, for a sum like that, it’s a good guess that the judgment of the case, had it gone through the end, was doubtful for the Church, and they might have been ordered to pay a larger amount. Or the costs associated with defending the case were considerable, and it would be better to settle. But at $660 million, I doubt it.
as i’ve already said, priests have lower cases of abuse of minors than anybody else around.
Red herring.
look at liberal judges giving child molestors probation for years of abuse. look at child rapists getting 1 year of jail. this is rediculous!
And…? Those were separate cases that ran to their end. Apparently the Church didn’t think the judgment would be so light, and opted to settle anyway.
but then look at the priests, who the accusers have no proof,(in most other cases there is proof) and they get millions of dollars.
Do they really? Do you know the accusers? Because I would think they are protected by law.
this has been going on for some time now. and will continue to go on. i wouldnt be suprised to see bigger settlements than $660 million!
Since the Church has made its own bed, perhaps it should sleep in it (if they continue to skirt the issue, avoid the law, obstruct investigations, etc., this will continue to happen).
has any other religious organization been targeted for these claims. have the protestants, jews, muslims?..…no they havent.
Considering the relative size of those religions, I don’t think it would be as big. But that’s a red herring anyway.
and they have a bigger percentage of cases, but they dont have the cash! cash that goes to feed the hungry, shelter homeless, and to combat diseases goes to line the pockets of liars. i’m gonna say 50-60 % of these people are liers with no scruples. and more will come.
Who is they?
And I’m going to say that 100% of your claims come out of your rear.
indeed, GOD HELP US!
How about you help yourselves?
