AA50-41 Tech Tourney sign-up (sign-ups CLOSED)


  • 1.  DarthMaximus
    2.  DutchmanD
    3.  DY
    4.  DesertJournalist
    5.  Zygmund
    6.  Telamon
    7.  Bigbadgoo
    8.  SgtBlitz
    9.  Pin
    10. Questioneer
    11. TimTheEnchanter
    12. Omega
    13. Bardoly
    14. Gargantua
    15. Lynxes
    16. Perrys!
    17. Joe Cold
    18. KGB
    19. Todd7912
    20. HannibalSW
    21. katfishkris
    22. souL
    23. Apollo
    24. DemolitionMan
    25. a44bigdog
    26. Mistergreen
    27. P@nther
    28. Botider
    29. JWW
    30. PGMatt
    31. hobo

    Wheeee  :lol:


  • 1.  DarthMaximus
    2.  DutchmanD
    3.  DY
    4.  DesertJournalist
    5.  Zygmund
    6.  Telamon
    7.  Bigbadgoo
    8.  SgtBlitz
    9.  Pin
    10. Questioneer
    11. TimTheEnchanter
    12. Omega
    13. Bardoly
    14. Gargantua
    15. Lynxes
    16. Perrys!
    17. Joe Cold
    18. KGB
    19. Todd7912
    20. HannibalSW
    21. katfishkris
    22. souL
    23. Apollo
    24. DemolitionMan
    25. a44bigdog
    26. Mistergreen
    27. P@nther
    28. Botider
    29. JWW
    30. PGMatt
    31. hobo
    32. Yasha

    I’ll take a stab  :-D


  • Great!  We finally made it to 32.  Maybe we can get started soon.  The signups have slowed down lately, so perhaps if any more sign up, then they could be alternates or something.

  • Moderator

    I think we will go with a 32 person bracket, but I think one or 2 of the players that signed-up would prefer to be alternates, so I’ll keep the sign-up open for a bit longer for additional alternates to sign-up.

    If we end up with 33 or something, I can always move myself to an alternate slot so a member can play.

    I may wait until after the 4th of July to start though, we’ll see if we get any more alternates by this weekend.  So for people that want to manage the number of games they play in you can probably assume early July for a start date.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Add Jennifer to the list if there is room, if not, add me to the alternate list please!


  • Drats!  Add me to the Alternate list as well.  I’d really like to play in this one.


  • If we do start next week, around the 4th, I may be on holidays until at least Friday or Saturday. I hope this is OK/won’t cause any problems. I’d really like to play in a tech tournament.


  • Yes, and I would like to be “in” as well. I mentioned I would sub because I was #17, thinking it might stop at 16, but I’ll happily let someone pound me.


  • Whoops, missed this thread earlier.  Alternate list too please.  :-D


  • Is there enough people asking for alternate slots to just open up more regular slots?


  • 1.  DarthMaximus
    2.  DutchmanD
    3.  DY
    4.  DesertJournalist
    5.  Zygmund
    6.  Telamon
    7.  Bigbadgoo
    8.  SgtBlitz
    9.  Pin
    10. Questioneer
    11. TimTheEnchanter
    12. Omega
    13. Bardoly
    14. Gargantua
    15. Lynxes
    16. Perrys!
    17. Joe Cold
    18. KGB
    19. Todd7912
    20. HannibalSW
    21. katfishkris
    22. souL
    23. Apollo
    24. DemolitionMan
    25. a44bigdog
    26. Mistergreen
    27. P@nther
    28. Botider
    29. JWW
    30. PGMatt
    31. hobo
    32. Yasha
    33. Cmdr Jennifer
    34. bongaroo
    35. anchovy

    @bongaroo:

    Is there enough people asking for alternate slots to just open up more regular slots?

    Well, I hope that everyone who wants to play in the tournament can play, but when you get into odd numbers, it can really mess with the brackets.  Maybe if this tourney were double-elimination, then it could work out better, but double elimination might make the tourney go too long.

  • Moderator

    I’d hate to have 3 or 4 Alts (or more), that seems like a lot and a I’m not quite ready to start so if another player or 2 signed-up I’d feel bad if they never got in to play.

    So, we have a few options:

    1)  Everyone plays, and if odd number I’ll roll for a random Bye.  The Bye will also be an Alt for a No-Show that round, and a No-show only.  Once all games start and G and R go the game is official, and if someone leaves after R1 then the other player advances via default and the Bye person would advance as well.  This would happen for each round that has an Odd number of players.  So each round the match-ups would be randomized and we’d have no set bracket to start.  You wouldn’t be eligible for multiple byes.

    2)  Everyone plays and we set up the bracket and get every bye out of the way in rd 1.  This means less round 1 games, since I think I’d have to base it off a 64 person bracket, but we could probably start sooner.  This also means a small number of people will play an extra game.  We’d have no Alts (unless some sign-up after we started), so a No-Show means automatic advancement.  Inital Byes would be based on AA50-41 (No-Tech tourny) for at least the first 8 byes, then probably random roll for the rest.  I can exclude myself from a bye.

    3)  We go with 32 and have 3+ people waiting around.  Not a big fan of this option.

    4)  Other?

    Feel free to share your opinion, I’m leaning towards 1 or 2 and if people don’t mind fewer rd 1 games and a slightly longer wait to play for the vaste majority of players then #2 might be the easiest.  I think if we end up with 35, that means only 6 players (3 games) for rd 1.  That way we get to 32 for rd 2.


  • I’d say option #2 is a friendly and simple solution  :-)


  • If I understand correctly, I don’t think the “give a bye whenever there’s an odd number of players in the round” approach would be very good.

    Assuming there were the current number - 35 players - you’d have the following:
    Rd 1: 17 games + 1 bye = 18 advance
    Rd 2: 9 games, no byes = 9 advance
    Rd 3: 4 games+ 1 bye = 5 advance
    Rd 4: 2 games + 1 bye = 3 advance
    Rd 5: 1 game + 1 bye = 2 advance
    Rd 6: 1 game

    That means there’s a bye in almost every round including someone getting a bye into the final game!  That does not seem like the best approach to me. I would think you wouldn’t want byes beyond the quarterfinals. I think of the choices you’ve listed, you have to either run a normal 64 team opening round with most people getting byes into round 2 (your option #2), or keep it to 32 with alternates.

    However, maybe there’s some other way to get it down to 8 teams with intermittant byes in the first 3 rounds that keeps more people involved throughout each round.  I’m just vamping here, so this isn’t really well thought out, but maybe something like…

    Round    teams  games  byes  Through to next round
    Round 1    35    13      9          22
    Round 2    22    8      6          14
    Round 3    14    6      2          8

    and from that point, you have a normal 8 team bracket.    I think you could even set the brackets up in advance if you really worked at it.

    Or maybe there’s even a way to get the byes all out of the way in the first two rounds, so nobody gets a round 3 bye. (11 byes the first round, 9 the second round?)

    just some ideas…


  • How about 4) Other as follows:

    If we have four alternates, they start playing each other so that we halve their number to two. Surely, there will be two no-shows during rounds 1 and 2. From round 3 and on there should be no alternate jump-ins, and that’s probably a moot one since by then every player should be serious enough to play their games.


  • @Lynxes:

    How about 4) Other as follows:

    If we have four alternates, they start playing each other so that we halve their number to two. Surely, there will be two no-shows during rounds 1 and 2. From round 3 and on there should be no alternate jump-ins, and that’s probably a moot one since by then every player should be serious enough to play their games.

    I think this is a great idea. I’ve been involved in more than a few tourneys and it seems like there is always at least 1-2 no shows anyways.

    also I happened upon this thread in my spare time. Did this tourney get much air time in the other very active threads? I personally invited a few players I was playing at the time to join if they were interested and 3 out of the 4 signed up after me, which was a bit late.

  • Moderator

    @JWW:

    also I happened upon this thread in my spare time. Did this tourney get much air time in the other very active threads?

    No, but that is a good point.  I post a redirection in the League forum and the general play games area.


  • I’m a strong supporter of byes in round 1 only, get rid of them all there, seed the participants from the first tourney and give byes to the ones with the better record. After you posted it in the league forum now you will probably get more signups so you will probably have more then 3-4 people who would need to be alternates if you go with the other options.

  • 2007 AAR League

    damn this is the first time  i saw this thread.  i guess i signed up too late for the tourney.  if you need me for an alternate i’ll fill in,  and if not oh well it’s my fault i just wasen’t paying attention.  i’ll start picking off the loosers.  :-D


  • @Pin:

    I’m a strong supporter of byes in round 1 only, get rid of them all there, seed the participants from the first tourney and give byes to the ones with the better record. After you posted it in the league forum now you will probably get more signups so you will probably have more then 3-4 people who would need to be alternates if you go with the other options.

    I would have no problems with seeds either. Anyone who did well in the 1st tourney could get a bye, and people with winning records in league could get a bye as well.

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