L23 PTV - Game #2 - mr_stucifer (X+5) vs Gorshak (L)

  • 2024

    TripleA Move Summary: British round 1

    TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Scotland to 113 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 98 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 93 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
    

    Savegame

  • 2024

    scramble option in the Adria

  • 2024 2023

    @Gorshak no scramble

  • 2024

    TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 1

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 carrier, 3 destroyers and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 28 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 28 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 28 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 28 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 bomber moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to Eastern United States
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Eastern United States
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 28 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 11 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 104 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 54 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Szechwan to Hunan
            3 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Hunan
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Hunan
                Chinese attack with 3 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan
                Chinese win, taking Hunan from Japanese with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai
            1 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Honan
            3 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Sinkiang to Tsinghai
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            2 infantry placed in Szechwan
            1 infantry placed in Tsinghai
            1 infantry placed in Szechwan
            Chinese undo move 3.
            1 infantry placed in Kweichow
            Chinese undo move 2.
            1 infantry placed in Szechwan
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 15 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 fighters and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Scotland to 113 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 98 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 93 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the British and 1 bomber owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    1 carrier owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                    1 cruiser owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the Italians and 1 battleship owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
                British win, taking 99 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 cruiser and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -11
                Casualties for British: 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
            Battle in 109 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                    British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 109 Sea Zone
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 109 Sea Zone
                British win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 cruiser remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 battleship
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 battleship owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship
            Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                British attack with 2 fighters
                Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    British roll dice for 2 fighters in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 98 Sea Zone
                British win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 99 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 99 Sea Zone: 1 carrier
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 artillery moved from Alexandria to 100 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Alexandria to 100 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 82 Sea Zone to Southern Persia
                  British take Southern Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 destroyer moved from 73 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
                  UK_Pacific take Java from Dutch
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
            1 fighter moved from Burma to Eastern India
            3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Western India to Eastern India
            1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 114 Sea Zone to 122 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to Scotland
            2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
    
        Place Units - British
            2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 30 PUs; end with 32 PUs
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs
            Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 38 PUs
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 41 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Eastern India
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs
            Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 0,17
    Italians regular : 1,67
    Japanese regular : 1,00
    Germans regular : 0,17
    British regular : -1,33
    

    Savegame

  • 2024

    @mr_stucifer
    The Taranto raid ends in a catastrophe for the British!

    After round 2 I was so frustrated that I somehow just clicked before realizing the preset loss of the carrier.

    I could not stop the rolls anymore.

    I rolled the battle after the rest of the battles again from the 3rd round.

    If you are not ok with that I will, of course, accept the first outcome.

  • 2024 2023

    @Gorshak I’m fine with the edit. Second time I’ve seen a Toranto raid go super poorly for the Brits in PtV, and I think only the second time it’s been attempted on me. I guess usually I don’t G1 Russia so I have an extra fighter to scramble. Total coincidence but crazy to see!

  • 2024 2023

    I think the casualties are short one however due to 2-hit carriers. Let me know if I am missing something.

    My units got 5 hits, so it only the intact carrier and one other unit if you save the carrier? Perhaps you want to do the fighter, tactical, and strat bomber since you could land with some protection in syria?

    I’m fine with whatever 3 hit points of units you want to keep.

  • 2024

    @mr_stucifer said in L23 PTV - Game #2 - mr_stucifer (X+5) vs Gorshak (L):

    I think the casualties are short one however due to 2-hit carriers. Let me know if I am missing something.

    My units got 5 hits, so it only the intact carrier and one other unit if you save the carrier? Perhaps you want to do the fighter, tactical, and strat bomber since you could land with some protection in syria?

    I’m fine with whatever 3 hit points of units you want to keep.

    I was just completely rerolling the 3rd (and there even was a 4th) round of combat - you can check the dice server mails for that.

    Anyway I am also fine with handling it like like you suggested:
    we keep the first dice result and I just rearange the losses. It is completely up to you as it was my mistake. :)

    Just remove the fighter from Egypt.

  • 2024 2023

    @Gorshak
    Ok. I got the dice emails labeled round 3 & round 4 which I believe correlates to round 2 & 3 in the actual game (not sure why MARTI is always ahead one round). That seemed to match the game you posted so that’s where I was confused. I don’t have any other dice emails for that sea combat, I usually don’t get all of them. I am not worried about it.

    So if I understand correctly, you re-rolled the battle from round 3 with losing the bomber, tactical, destroyer, and one fighter, having already taken four hits. I then got no more hits in all rounds leaving you with the carrier, cruiser, and one fighter.

  • 2024

    @mr_stucifer

    Yes you undestood correctly.

    To reroll from round 3 I had to manually (edit mode) create a new battle with the dice server in our game with the units you mentioned. Then rolled that battle with the dice server.

    As this newly created battle (with UK carrier, cruiser, fighter and ITA damaged BB and trans) started in round 1 - you should have gotten these mails labelled round 2 +3 in MARTI (as it somehow adds 1 to the round number).

    These new mails were sent 6 minutes after the original dice mails.

    But as I said, it is completely up to you which way you want to handle that - it was my mistake.

  • 2024 2023

    @Gorshak Sounds good, thanks for the clarification! It was a win for me either way so I would prefer to use your intended actions and will play the file you posted.

  • 2024 2023

    @Gorshak

    Attack UK fleet in 99. Got 2 hits (sub missed). Save carrier first round?

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  • 2024 2023

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 1

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Tunisia
            1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Yugoslavia
    
        Combat - Italians
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : -0.67
    

    Savegame

  • 2024

    @mr_stucifer said in L23 PTV - Game #2 - mr_stucifer (X+5) vs Gorshak (L):

    @Gorshak

    Attack UK fleet in 99. Got 2 hits (sub missed). Save carrier first round?

    1 hit to carrier and one hit to a fighter

  • 2024 2023

    TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 1

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Tunisia
            1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Yugoslavia
    
        Combat - Italians
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British
                    British roll dice for 2 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 carrier and 1 cruiser in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Italians, 1 submarine owned by the Italians and 1 fighter owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
                    1 fighter owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                1 bomber owned by the Italians and 1 fighter owned by the Italians retreated
                1 cruiser owned by the Italians retreated to 97 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -14
                Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Italians attack with 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Yugoslavia
                    4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
                    Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
                Italians win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Italians: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry
            Battle in Tunisia
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                French defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French lost in Tunisia
                Italians win, taking Tunisia from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
                1 fighter owned by the British could not land and were killed
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Anglo-Egyptian Sudan from British to Italians
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Kenya from British to Italians
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            6 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 fighter placed in Southern Italy
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 74 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4
            Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 15 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : -0.33
    Italians regular : 1.17
    Neutral_Allies regular : 1.00
    British regular : 1.00
    

    Savegame

  • 2024 2023

    @Gorshak apologies for the edit in Africa, one of these days I won’t forget about Ethiopia.

  • 2024

    @mr_stucifer said in L23 PTV - Game #2 - mr_stucifer (X+5) vs Gorshak (L):

    @Gorshak apologies for the edit in Africa, one of these days I won’t forget about Ethiopia.

    😅

  • 2024

    TripleA Move Summary: French round 1

    TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
    

    Savegame

  • 2024

    scramble into Belgium?

  • 2024 2023

    @Gorshak Yes, 3 fighters

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