L23 PTV - Game #2 - mr_stucifer (X+5) vs Gorshak (L)

[Stucifer]

Also there is an edit for the loss in 113 trying to pick between a tac and a fighter on that second round before I remembered I bought a fighter

[Gorshak]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Baltic States
        1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Baltic States
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Baltic States

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Baltic States
            Russians attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
            Russians win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Leningrad
        3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
        1 infantry moved from Archangel to Leningrad
        2 infantry moved from Karelia to Archangel
        1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Novgorod
        1 armour moved from Russia to Novgorod
        1 artillery moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
        1 submarine moved from 130 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Southern Caucasus to Northern Caucasus
        3 infantry moved from Amur to Siberia
        2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Siberia
        3 infantry moved from Buryatia to Sakha

    Place Units - Russians
        1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Siberia
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Leningrad
        Russians undo move 3.
        Russians undo move 2.
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Ukraine
        3 infantry placed in Leningrad
        Russians undo move 3.
        Russians undo move 2.
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Leningrad
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 47 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0,67
Russians regular : 0,17

Savegame

[Gorshak]

@mr_stucifer said in L23 PTV - Game #2 - mr_stucifer (X+5) vs Gorshak (L):

@Gorshak

Not a great opening round, double hit in Eastern Poland plus the 4 infantry for 0 hits in Yugo will hurt the campaign in the East quite a bit! Sorry for the repost, forgot to move armour into Bulgaria

Let’s see. I did not have such bad luck, but i am also not so sure if the Russian move was that good. Especially since the Baltics are still German held.

[Stucifer]

@Gorshak Yes, I think taking it would prevent me moving into both Baltic and Bessarabia next turn, odds of counterattack would be too heavily against me to do both.

Probably worth the 2nd infantry but that’s also wasted 70% of the time. Tough call.

[Stucifer]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 marine and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Politics - Japanese
        Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied

    Combat Move - Japanese
        2 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
              Japanese take French Indo China from French
        1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Hunan
              Japanese take Hunan from Chinese
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan
        3 infantry moved from Fukien to Kiangsi
              Japanese take Kiangsi from Chinese
        3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
              Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
              Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shansi
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Manchuria to Shansi
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Shansi

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Shansi
            Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Shansi, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shansi
            Japanese win, taking Shansi from Chinese with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 3 : 4/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        1 fighter moved from Formosa to Kwangsi
        1 infantry moved from Formosa to 21 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Fukien to 21 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Caroline Islands to 34 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 cruiser moved from 21 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 7 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 7 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 7 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 34 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Kwangsi
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Shansi to Kiangsu
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
        1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria
        3 infantry moved from Korea to Southern Manchuria
        1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Anhwe
        1 artillery moved from Kiangsu to 20 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 20 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 7 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu
        1 infantry moved from Hokkaido to Japan
        1 fighter moved from Korea to 37 Sea Zone
        1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China

    Place Units - Japanese
        4 transports placed in 7 Sea Zone
        1 marine placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0.67
Japanese regular : -0.50

Savegame

[Gorshak]

TripleA Move Summary: British round 1

TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 1

    Combat Move - British
        1 destroyer moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Scotland to 113 Sea Zone
        1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 98 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 93 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone

Savegame

[Gorshak]

scramble option in the Adria

[Stucifer]

@Gorshak no scramble

[Gorshak]

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 carrier, 3 destroyers and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 28 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 28 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
        1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 28 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 28 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 bomber moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands
        1 infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States
        1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to Eastern United States
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Eastern United States
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 28 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Americans
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 11 Sea Zone
        2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 104 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 54 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        2 infantry moved from Szechwan to Hunan
        3 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
        1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Hopei to Hunan

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Hunan
            Chinese attack with 3 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
                Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan
            Chinese win, taking Hunan from Japanese with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Yunnan
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
            Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
        1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai
        1 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Honan
        3 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Sinkiang to Tsinghai

    Place Units - Chinese
        2 infantry placed in Szechwan
        1 infantry placed in Tsinghai
        1 infantry placed in Szechwan
        Chinese undo move 3.
        1 infantry placed in Kweichow
        Chinese undo move 2.
        1 infantry placed in Szechwan

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs
        Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 15 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 2 fighters and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 destroyer moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Scotland to 113 Sea Zone
        1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 98 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 93 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone

    Combat - British
        Battle in 99 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 3,00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the British and 1 bomber owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                1 carrier owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in 99 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the Italians and 1 battleship owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
            British win, taking 99 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 cruiser and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -11
            Casualties for British: 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber
            Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
        Battle in 109 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
            Germans defend with 1 submarine
                British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 109 Sea Zone
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 109 Sea Zone
            British win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 cruiser remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
        Battle in 113 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
            Germans defend with 1 battleship
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 battleship owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
            Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship
        Battle in 98 Sea Zone
            British attack with 2 fighters
            Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                British roll dice for 2 fighters in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 98 Sea Zone
            British win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
            Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - British
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 99 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 99 Sea Zone: 1 carrier
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
        1 artillery moved from Alexandria to 100 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Alexandria to 100 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 82 Sea Zone to Southern Persia
              British take Southern Persia from Neutral_Allies
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
        1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
        1 destroyer moved from 73 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
              UK_Pacific take Java from Dutch
        1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
        1 fighter moved from Burma to Eastern India
        3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma
        1 infantry moved from Western India to Eastern India
        1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
        1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 114 Sea Zone to 122 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to Scotland
        2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia

    Place Units - British
        2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 30 PUs; end with 32 PUs
        Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs
        Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 38 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 41 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Eastern India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs
        Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0,17
Italians regular : 1,67
Japanese regular : 1,00
Germans regular : 0,17
British regular : -1,33

Savegame

[Gorshak]

@mr_stucifer
The Taranto raid ends in a catastrophe for the British!

After round 2 I was so frustrated that I somehow just clicked before realizing the preset loss of the carrier.

I could not stop the rolls anymore.

I rolled the battle after the rest of the battles again from the 3rd round.

If you are not ok with that I will, of course, accept the first outcome.

[Stucifer]

@Gorshak I’m fine with the edit. Second time I’ve seen a Toranto raid go super poorly for the Brits in PtV, and I think only the second time it’s been attempted on me. I guess usually I don’t G1 Russia so I have an extra fighter to scramble. Total coincidence but crazy to see!

[Stucifer]

I think the casualties are short one however due to 2-hit carriers. Let me know if I am missing something.

My units got 5 hits, so it only the intact carrier and one other unit if you save the carrier? Perhaps you want to do the fighter, tactical, and strat bomber since you could land with some protection in syria?

I’m fine with whatever 3 hit points of units you want to keep.

[Gorshak]

@mr_stucifer said in L23 PTV - Game #2 - mr_stucifer (X+5) vs Gorshak (L):

I think the casualties are short one however due to 2-hit carriers. Let me know if I am missing something.

My units got 5 hits, so it only the intact carrier and one other unit if you save the carrier? Perhaps you want to do the fighter, tactical, and strat bomber since you could land with some protection in syria?

I’m fine with whatever 3 hit points of units you want to keep.

I was just completely rerolling the 3rd (and there even was a 4th) round of combat - you can check the dice server mails for that.

Anyway I am also fine with handling it like like you suggested:
we keep the first dice result and I just rearange the losses. It is completely up to you as it was my mistake. :)

Just remove the fighter from Egypt.

[Stucifer]

@Gorshak
Ok. I got the dice emails labeled round 3 & round 4 which I believe correlates to round 2 & 3 in the actual game (not sure why MARTI is always ahead one round). That seemed to match the game you posted so that’s where I was confused. I don’t have any other dice emails for that sea combat, I usually don’t get all of them. I am not worried about it.

So if I understand correctly, you re-rolled the battle from round 3 with losing the bomber, tactical, destroyer, and one fighter, having already taken four hits. I then got no more hits in all rounds leaving you with the carrier, cruiser, and one fighter.

[Gorshak]

@mr_stucifer

Yes you undestood correctly.

To reroll from round 3 I had to manually (edit mode) create a new battle with the dice server in our game with the units you mentioned. Then rolled that battle with the dice server.

As this newly created battle (with UK carrier, cruiser, fighter and ITA damaged BB and trans) started in round 1 - you should have gotten these mails labelled round 2 +3 in MARTI (as it somehow adds 1 to the round number).

These new mails were sent 6 minutes after the original dice mails.

But as I said, it is completely up to you which way you want to handle that - it was my mistake.

[Stucifer]

@Gorshak Sounds good, thanks for the clarification! It was a win for me either way so I would prefer to use your intended actions and will play the file you posted.

[Stucifer]

@Gorshak

Attack UK fleet in 99. Got 2 hits (sub missed). Save carrier first round?

[Stucifer]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Tunisia
        1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Yugoslavia

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in 99 Sea Zone
            Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
            British defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters
                Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -0.67

Savegame

[Gorshak]

@mr_stucifer said in L23 PTV - Game #2 - mr_stucifer (X+5) vs Gorshak (L):

@Gorshak

Attack UK fleet in 99. Got 2 hits (sub missed). Save carrier first round?

1 hit to carrier and one hit to a fighter

[Stucifer]

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Tunisia
        1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Yugoslavia

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in 99 Sea Zone
            Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
            British defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters
                Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British
                British roll dice for 2 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 carrier and 1 cruiser in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Italians, 1 submarine owned by the Italians and 1 fighter owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
                1 fighter owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber owned by the Italians and 1 fighter owned by the Italians retreated
            1 cruiser owned by the Italians retreated to 97 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -14
            Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
            Casualties for British: 1 fighter
        Battle in Yugoslavia
            Italians attack with 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry
            Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Yugoslavia
                4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
                Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
            Italians win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Italians: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry
        Battle in Tunisia
            Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            French defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the French lost in Tunisia
            Italians win, taking Tunisia from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for French: 1 infantry
            1 fighter owned by the British could not land and were killed

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Anglo-Egyptian Sudan from British to Italians
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Kenya from British to Italians
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        6 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
        1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
        1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya

    Place Units - Italians
        1 fighter placed in Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 74 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4
        Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 15 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : -0.33
Italians regular : 1.17
Neutral_Allies regular : 1.00
British regular : 1.00

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