I am not at my computer, but if you make a picture post of the situation i can reply shortly
L23 BM4 Gamerman (Allies+10) vs Roboto (Axis)
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No I did not. And I only got the one that I showed you
Even in the first mail that you sent me it looks like that:
In your second attempt I can see the 5443 roll. But I never got that one, neither in TripleA nor as mail.
How is that possible?@gamerman01 said in L23 BM4 Gamerman (Allies+10) vs Roboto (Axis):
Why are their 2 e-mails for your attack? They both appear to be 3 hits, though
But if I’m not mistaken 5443 would not be 3 hits, though. It would only be 1 hit, am I right?
@gamerman01 said in L23 BM4 Gamerman (Allies+10) vs Roboto (Axis):
And I’m just happy I hit 3 back
Or did you mistake that roll with your defense? 5443 with 1 destroyer and 3 fighters would be 3 hits.
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I am mostly curious, to be clear I still do not doubt your honesty and sportsmanship.
I did have a separate e-mail for the defense that came to me at 8:58, a different time than the other 2.
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Looking at your screenshot, it looks like you only got the 1 roll so far? Not even the defense? And like you said, definitely not the repeated offense roll that had different numbers.
Do you use local a lot and alternate with PM and do mock moves? (I sure don’t :grinning: but I know people do)
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I don’t have time, it’s another moving day, so I’m just checking in. Maybe we wait and see if more of them trickle in for you.
Meanwhile, I don’t think you’ve posted the save at the end of Italy’s dastardly turn
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There are many posts, but I am not seeing the end of the turn map.
We need to see if we can discover something about this MARTI e-mail, too. You did not run the turn more than once in more than one instance of Triple A, then -
I do sometimes do mock turns, but not very often. I did not do it with this Italy turn (if I recall correctly).
I did some thinking and I do have a pretty good idea of what happened. When I play lots of turns in a row without closing TripleA in between, the engine crashes.
Sometimes it freezes, sometimes it’s just super super slow (unplayable slow), sometimes it doesn’t load at all and I even have to restart my computer. In all cases, I have to shut down TripleA with the task manager.
I can show you the error the next time I encounter it. Something with “java heap” somethingsomething.
Now most of the time this error occurs when loading a map, but occasionally it happens while playing.
It never occured to me that the engine freezes but still loads and rolls the combat in background. This is what must have happened.
But why did the engine send you a mail but not me?And yeah, I did not get the defense Mail either. Someone (I think it was even you!) mentioned in the League general discussion thread, that Yahoo Mail works better than GMail and this case seems to confirm it. I think I’m gonna create a Yahoo Mail for MARTI.
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Now since apparently the game rolled that combat, this is what we should go with.
That means I only scored 1 hit with you defending with 3 hits.
I’ll retreat then. See file attached. -
Just had it during my game with Simon…
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Ooooh, that’s interesting.
I now have this:
I have never seen this before haha. Maybe because it took me a while to post the picture here and I let TripleA open for a while.
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@MrRoboto said in L23 BM4 Gamerman (Allies+10) vs Roboto (Axis):
Now since apparently the game rolled that combat, this is what we should go with.
That means I only scored 1 hit with you defending with 3 hits.
I’ll retreat then. See file attached.I’m not sure what happened. I did get the e-mail with 5,5,4,3 6 minutes before the one that is in game, in the save file.
The rolls in MARTI have been out of order, though, too. And last night the MARTI connection froze on my last die roll of a turn against elche.
If they are out of order, you definitely scored 1 hit, but could possibly be a 2nd hit, if that 4 was for the bomber.
I am happy with my defense roll.
I would be very happy if I only took 1 hit (and I probably would have taken a plane off instead of the destroyer if you asked me a casualty having scored only 1 hit).So if you honorably go with a roll that looks like 1 hit, I would ask that you replace a fighter with the destroyer especially to disrupt the NO.
However, as I said I can’t be sure that first roll didn’t actually score 2 hits. I offer you 3 options:
- Stay with only 1 Italian hit and let me change my casualty to lose a plane instead of the destroyer
- I will split it with you and give you 2 hits against the Americans and you leave a destroyer in the water
- Re-roll the Italian attack, with a maximum of 3 hits and a minimum of 1 hit. Because your better (albeit, later) roll was 3 hits, and the first MARTI e-mail was for at least 1 hit, could have been 2.
If you score 3 hits, I would have lost the destroyer for sure.
I don’t know what happened, but I trust you a lot. That’s why I don’t like option #1.
Please consider, and I hope you choose #2 or #3 or maybe you have an option 4 I didn’t think of - thanks man!!! But especially thanks for not destroying all my stuff! :flushed: -
There is another question. With all your experience you might know what this means.
I am able to open your save file in local, but NOT PBEM.
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Hm, probably because I finalized the turn in Local mode because I didn’t want to confuse us by rolling again.
I actually did #1 earlier, but I’ll gladly take your offer and reroll the attack!
Just to not confuse us any more, I will roll it here on the forums!
Attacker: 3 fighter, 1 bomber
[dice 3d6<=3]
[dice 1d6<=4] -
3d6<=3: 5, 3, 4; Hits: 1
1d6<=4: 4; Hits: 1 -
I’m glad you took the dice rolling solution, and TWO is a great compromise!!! Thanks man!!
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Leave the destroyer please (also part of the compromise)
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And deduct 5 from the grubby Italians
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Game History
Round: 9 Purchase Units - Italians Italians repair damage of 5x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 14 PUs; Italians buy 1 destroyer and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 2 fighters moved from Southern France to 92 Sea Zone 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 92 Sea Zone Combat - Italians Battle in 92 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 bomber and 3 fighters Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Italians win with 1 bomber and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Non Combat Move - Italians 3 fighters could not land in 92 Sea Zone and were removed 1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 2 aaGuns and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France 1 infantry moved from Southern France to France Place Units - Italians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Gibraltar: 2 fighters EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 92 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer and 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 destroyer placed in 95 Sea Zone 2 infantry placed in Ukraine Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5,5,5 Italians collect 12 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 12 PUs -
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Game History
Round: 10 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Western Ukraine 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 5 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov Combat - Germans Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,50 expected hits British roll dice for 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Battle in Holland Belgium Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 artillery Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium 1 artillery owned by the British lost in Holland Belgium Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 artillery Battle in Western Ukraine Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Belarus Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Belarus, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Belarus, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Belarus Russians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Battle in Rostov Germans attack with 9 artilleries and 15 infantry Russians defend with 2 aaGuns and 8 infantry Germans roll dice for 9 artilleries and 15 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 8/24 hits, 7,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 aaGuns and 8 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/8 hits, 2,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov 8 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov 2 aaGuns owned by the Russians lost in Rostov Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 9 artilleries and 14 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 aaGuns and 8 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 armour, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia 1 armour, 1 artillery, 6 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Poland 1 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Southern Italy 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 2 mech_infantrys moved from Southern France to France 2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Western Germany 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine Place Units - Germans 2 submarines placed in 112 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Novgorod 3 infantry placed in France 3 infantry placed in Southern France 2 fighters placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3,2,4 Germans collect 50 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 50 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : 0,00 Germans regular : -1,83 British regular : 1,00Ok Belarus is… ugh.
And Rostov… I didn’t even know that could happen. I though I can retreat, but apparently when there is only AAA left, I can’t?
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@MrRoboto said in L23 BM4 Gamerman (Allies+10) vs Roboto (Axis):
And Rostov… I didn’t even know that could happen. I though I can retreat, but apparently when there is only AAA left, I can’t?
Exactly, I think I tried to explain that before when I said you were “playing with fire”. Now it looks like you got too many hits, but I wonder why you took infantry off (which is exactly what I would have done) and that is a big bummer I only scored 1 hit. (Don’t have time right now to look at the move)
So you scored 8 and without looking at the map, I’m sure I would take 8 infantry and suck you in.
You can’t retreat from transports or AAA.
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