@Booper 2 cruisers and the battleship
MrRoboto (Allies+22) vs Simon33 (Axis) BM
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2d6<=1: 4, 5; Hits: 0
14d6<=2: 1, 4, 6, 5, 6, 1, 3, 1, 3, 4, 4, 4, 2, 6; Hits: 4
3d6<=3: 4, 2, 6; Hits: 1
16d6<=4: 5, 1, 5, 4, 6, 3, 3, 2, 4, 6, 2, 6, 4, 1, 5, 2; Hits: 10 -
15 hits overall.
I will lose 5 destroyers and 5 carriersI continue with 21 subs, 12 fighters.
You defend with
1 healthy carrier
6 tipped carriers
1 destroyer
1 cruiser
2 tacs
1 tipped battleship
15 fighters[dice 12d6<=2]
[dice 12d6<=3] -
12d6<=2: 4, 4, 5, 6, 5, 4, 6, 2, 6, 5, 1, 1; Hits: 3
12d6<=3: 3, 6, 4, 1, 1, 3, 3, 2, 3, 6, 5, 5; Hits: 7 -
Please let me know your OOL, I scored 10 hits.
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Keep the planes and the BB.
Dice are favouring you this battle.
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@simon33 said in MrRoboto (Allies+22) vs Simon33 (Axis) BM:
Dice are favouring you this battle.
In the first round, yes.
In the second round, my 21 subs and 12 fighters should have scored 13 hits, not 10.Your defense:
[dice 8d6<=2]
[dice 3d6<=3]
[dice 16d<=4] -
8d6<=2: 4, 3, 4, 2, 4, 3, 1, 3; Hits: 2
3d6<=3: 2, 3, 1; Hits: 3 -
[dice 16d6<=4]
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16d6<=4: 2, 6, 2, 6, 6, 5, 5, 1, 2, 3, 1, 1, 5, 4, 1, 4; Hits: 10
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You had 89 power, 14 5/6 hits on average and you scored 15 hits
Average!
I will retreat now, after losing another 15 subs.
6 subs and 12 fighters remaining.
You are left with 1 damaged battleship, 2 tacs and 15 fighters will land in Japan. -
TUV change is -2 by the way.
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You know what? I will lose 13 subs and 2 fighters instead, because they can’t land there.
TUV change is -10 then -
Game History
Round: 22 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 artilleries, 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 2 fighters, 12 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 3 carriers, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters and 11 submarines moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 5 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters moved from 16 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Western United States to 6 Sea Zone 7 artilleries, 1 fighter and 18 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria 1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Bulgaria 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk Americans take Bryansk from Germans 1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Eastern Poland Americans take Eastern Poland from Germans 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia Americans take Bessarabia from Germans 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Bulgaria 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium Combat - Americans Japanese scrambles 3 units out of Japan to defend against the attack in 6 Sea Zone Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits. Rolls: 3 Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits. Rolls: 6 Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits. Rolls: 6 Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits. Rolls: 4 Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits. Rolls: 4 Battle in 6 Sea Zone Americans attack with 5 carriers, 5 destroyers, 12 fighters and 21 submarines; ANZAC loiter and taunt Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 9 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 15 fighters, 2 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports Americans roll dice for 21 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 9/21 hits, 7,00 expected hits Units damaged: 8 carriers owned by the Japanese and 1 battleship owned by the Japanese Americans roll dice for 5 carriers, 5 destroyers and 12 fighters in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 8/17 hits, 7,67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Americans Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 9 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 15 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 17/33 hits, 16,83 expected hits 3 submarines owned by the Americans, 5 destroyers owned by the Americans and 5 carriers owned by the Americans lost in 6 Sea Zone 1 carrier owned by the Japanese, 4 destroyers owned by the Japanese and 2 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone Americans roll dice for 18 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 7/18 hits, 6,00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 12 fighters in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 8/12 hits, 6,00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 8 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 15 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports in 6 Sea Zone, round 3 : 16/28 hits, 15,17 expected hits 16 submarines owned by the Americans lost in 6 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese, 3 fighters owned by the Japanese, 8 carriers owned by the Japanese, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 cruiser owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone 12 fighters owned by the Americans retreated 2 submarines owned by the Americans retreated to 16 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 battleship, 12 fighters and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26 Casualties for Americans: 5 carriers, 5 destroyers and 19 submarines Casualties for Japanese: 9 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers Battle in Bulgaria Americans attack with 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 18 infantry Germans defend with 1 armour, 12 artilleries and 12 infantry; Italians defend with 1 armour Americans roll dice for 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 18 infantry in Bulgaria, round 2 : 8/28 hits, 8,17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 12 artilleries and 12 infantry in Bulgaria, round 2 : 10/26 hits, 9,00 expected hits 10 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Bulgaria 8 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bulgaria Americans roll dice for 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 8 infantry in Bulgaria, round 3 : 10/18 hits, 6,50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 12 artilleries and 4 infantry in Bulgaria, round 3 : 5/18 hits, 6,33 expected hits 5 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Bulgaria 6 artilleries owned by the Germans and 4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bulgaria Americans roll dice for 7 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Bulgaria, round 4 : 7/13 hits, 5,00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 armour and 6 artilleries in Bulgaria, round 4 : 3/8 hits, 3,00 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Bulgaria 6 artilleries owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Bulgaria Americans roll dice for 7 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Bulgaria, round 5 : 3/10 hits, 4,00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Bulgaria, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Bulgaria 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Bulgaria Americans win, taking Bulgaria from Italians with 6 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 38 Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 18 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 armour, 12 artilleries and 12 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Battle in Holland Belgium Americans attack with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium Americans win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Moving scrambled unit from 6 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Japan Moving scrambled unit from 6 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Japan Moving scrambled unit from 6 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Japan 9 fighters owned by the Japanese forced to land in Japan Non Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of Vologda from Germans to Americans EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 fighters could not land in 6 Sea Zone and were removed 1 bomber moved from Bulgaria to Greece 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Bulgaria to Greece 1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Urals to Vologda 2 artilleries moved from Urals to Nenetsia 2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 107 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 89 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 89 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone 7 transports moved from 89 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Korea 10 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 1 carrier and 4 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone 2 infantry placed in Western United States Americans undo move 2. 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western United States 2 fighters placed in Western United States Americans undo move 3. 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 6 infantry placed in Eastern United States Americans undo move 3. 3 infantry placed in Caucasus 3 infantry placed in Greece 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 19 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1 Americans collect 73 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 73 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 93 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 98 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 103 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 16 Sea Zone: 2 submarines EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 19 Sea Zone: 8 submarines EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Japan: 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol Chinese take Jehol from Japanese Combat - Chinese Non Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 1 infantry placed in Jehol Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 4 PUs; end with 5 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to West India UK_Pacific take West India from Japanese 1 infantry moved from Greece to Albania British take Albania from Italians 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Romania Combat - British Battle in Romania British attack with 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry; Italians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry British roll dice for 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in Romania, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2,67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Romania, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Romania 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans, 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Romania British win with 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for British: 1 fighter Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry Non Combat Move - British 2 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Romania to Caucasus 3 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Caucasus 5 infantry moved from Iraq to Persia 6 infantry moved from Persia to Eastern Persia 3 aaGuns, 9 artilleries, 15 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Persia to Turkmenistan 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar 3 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan Place Units - British 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Persia 3 infantry placed in Iraq 3 infantry placed in Egypt British undo move 3. 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 3 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs Objective British 2 Southern Europe Beach Head: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 46 PUs Turn Complete - UK_PacificCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 9,33 Italians regular : 0,17 Japanese regular : 1,67 Germans regular : -0,33 British regular : 1,33 -
Oh it pains me to point this out but you made a typo in the subs roll. You rolled 12 dice and you should have rolled 21!
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Are you able to retreat to SZ19? It’s a hostile sea zone, I wouldn’t have thought that was allowed, will check the rules.
Eur rules, p20:
Condition B—Attacker Retreats
The attacker (never the defender) can retreat during this
step. Move all attacking land and sea units in that combat
that are on the battle strip to a single adjacent friendly
space from which at least 1 of the attacking land or sea
unit involved in a successful battle.Was going to continue with Italy but better not.
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I didn’t see the need to resort to Forum dice here. Would have been easier with normal dice. Only if someone objects to sub casualties would you need to do that.
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Simon, you are a good sportsman! I never noticed that typo.
It doesn’t change much, though. I will kill the battleship and the transporters with the additional hits. Let’s roll it, just to be sure:
[dice 9d6<=2]
I never knew about that retreat rule, thanks for clarifying! Learned something new!!!
You are right, rolling on the forum would have been easier. However, I have been asked many times to roll big sea battles on the forum, because of the sub casualty situation.
And, more importantly, I am having a dispute with another player right now because of a big sea battle where we did not get MARTI Dice mails. So I wanted to make sure there is 100% transparency here. -
9d6<=2: 4, 4, 2, 6, 2, 6, 4, 6, 1; Hits: 3
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I guess you’re gonna save some convoy damage then ;-)
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Axis got smacked around that turn.
Actually, you had plenty of plane hits which can hit my planes. I’ve removed 2 Japanese fighters.
I thought I had enough to fend off the Yanks there. If I was really worried I should have forgotten about putting planes in Amur. Bad in Greece too.
If you come back to win this game, it will the come back of the century.
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