TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR

@superbattleshipyamato said in TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR:

@the_good_captain

I started watching the Austria Hungary video. I see you did the exact same moves as you showed in the video.

A little question. How high of a win probability on a battle calculator do you recommend if you want to conquer a territory for 1914? Using AndrewAAGamer’s 95% or higher for other Axis and Allies games don’t really work due to how the battles work. What’s your recommendation? Thank you!

sending you a PM on this

@superbattleshipyamato said in TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR:

@the_good_captain

I watched your intro video. Based on the number of wins, you’re probably very, very, very good. I’m now even more impressed than I was before.

Thanks but no, I really am no better or worse than someone who spends too much of his free time playing different versions on this game via Triple which allows anyone to be able to study the percentages and understand the pressure points on various maps.

@superbattleshipyamato said in TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR:

@the_good_captain

So what you’re saying is that while it might favour one side, it’s not terribly unbalanced. I’m not surprised, hundreds of hours were spent making the original rules to be balanced.

Its difficult to explain thoroughly via text and I will eventually release a video on this concept but let me put it another way, if you and I played 10 games together, I know by the 10th game if you played the Entente, you would start regularly burying me as the CP and we would have to discuss how to balance the game.

@superbattleshipyamato said in TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR:

@the_good_captain

I think an important note is that in the game I was referring to (the Allies almost winning if not for some really bad decisions), the Central Powers built a big navy, so I guess I didn’t really see imbalance, but both bad luck and Central Powers stupidity (it was my first game of 1914).

To be honest, I can’t shake a personal urge as the Central Powers to build up a navy. Those ships just look so tempting to destroy…

Whatever that urge is, don’t let anyone (even me) talk you out of trying it. The only way any of us learn anything or get better is ppl who have a new or untried idea. Only you should talk yourself out of it. Even if I don’t agree with it, I can say from personal experience, I’ve learned a lot from folks who had a unique strategy and in axis and allies the original, I myself was/am that guy. So if we end up swapping sides in the future, I will be keen to see what if any advantages can come from something like that.

@superbattleshipyamato said in TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR:

@the_good_captain

My thoughts on the Russia video, which stood out to me:

Why do you have blockers in some territories, especially Ukraine when doing the Poland move? Most land units can only move one space, so if the Austro-Hungarians move into Ukraine they’ll just kill the infantry. if Ukraine was empty they wouldn’t be able to dash to Moscow anyway.

Wait, so in a Russian Revolution scenario no Allied powers can move into original Russian territories? If that’s the case, that means I’ve been playing the game wrong.

Nobody can move into territories that were Russian at the time of the Revolution. Contested zones produce no income although cp forces can move in and out of them. The Allies must vacate any original russian territory they are in, they have one turn to do so. CP controlled Russian territories are still in play and can be captured normally.

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Game History

Round: 7

    Puchase Units - Ottomans
        Ottomans buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Ottomans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Mesopotamia from British to Ottomans
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by French to Belgian Congo: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        6 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Persia
        3 infantry moved from Ankara to Mesopotamia
        1 infantry moved from Smyrna to Trans-Jordan
        2 infantry moved from Constantinople to Smyrna
        6 infantry moved from Constantinople to Ankara
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to British East Africa
              Ottomans take British East Africa from British
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt

    Combat - Ottomans
        Battle in Persia
            Ottomans attack with 6 artilleries and 8 infantry
            British defend with 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 4 infantry
                Ottomans roll dice for 6 artilleries and 8 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 10/14 hits, 6.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 5.00 expected hits
                4 infantry owned by the Ottomans, 4 artilleries owned by the British, 4 infantry owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Persia
            Ottomans win, taking Persia from British with 6 artilleries and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
            Casualties for Ottomans: 4 infantry
            Casualties for British: 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 4 infantry
        Battle in Belgian Congo
            Ottomans attack with 1 artillery and 4 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 infantry; French defend with 1 infantry
                Ottomans roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Belgian Congo, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry in Belgian Congo, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Ottomans, 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Belgian Congo
            Ottomans win, taking Belgian Congo from British with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Ottomans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 infantry

    Combat Move - Ottomans

    Place Units - Ottomans
        7 infantry placed in Constantinople

    Turn Complete - Ottomans
        Ottomans collect 28 PUs; end with 28 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Ottomans regular : 3.33
British regular : 0.00

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Game History

Round: 8

    Puchase Units - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians buy 11 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians
        1 unit repaired.
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Piedmont from Italians to Germans
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Italians owned units to: tank = 1, tank = 1
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Albania to Trieste
        1 infantry moved from Serbia to Trieste
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Trieste to Venice
        6 infantry and 1 tank moved from Tyrolia to Venice
        1 fighter moved from Vienna to Venice
        2 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste
        9 infantry moved from Vienna to Tyrolia
        7 artilleries, 2 fighters, 11 infantry and 1 tank moved from Venice to Tuscany

    Combat - AustroHungarians
        Battle in Tuscany
            AustroHungarians attack with 7 artilleries, 2 fighters, 11 infantry and 1 tank
            Italians defend with 2 artilleries, 9 infantry and 2 tanks
                AustroHungarians roll dice for 7 artilleries, 2 fighters, 11 infantry and 1 tank in Tuscany, round 2 : 14/21 hits, 10.50 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 2 artilleries, 9 infantry and 2 tanks in Tuscany, round 2 : 5/13 hits, 5.83 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 tank owned by the AustroHungarians
                4 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians, 2 tanks owned by the Italians, 2 artilleries owned by the Italians and 9 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tuscany
            AustroHungarians win, taking Tuscany from Italians with 7 artilleries, 2 fighters, 7 infantry and 1 tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 35
            Casualties for AustroHungarians: 4 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 2 artilleries, 9 infantry and 2 tanks

    Combat Move - AustroHungarians

    Place Units - AustroHungarians
        11 infantry and 1 tank placed in Vienna

    Turn Complete - AustroHungarians
        AustroHungarians collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -0.83
AustroHungarians regular : 3.50

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Game History

Round: 8

    Puchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 3 artilleries, 12 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        3 units repaired.
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Alsace: 2 fighters
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Hanover: 2 fighters
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these French owned units to: tank = 1
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these British owned units to: tank = 1, tank = 1
        EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these French owned units to: tank = 1
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Kiel to Ruhr
        3 fighters moved from Hanover to Alsace
        9 infantry moved from Munich to Alsace
        4 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Piedmont to Switzerland
        1 fighter moved from Hanover to Switzerland
        9 infantry moved from Hanover to Ruhr
        1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Karelia
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
        2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Moscow
        2 infantry moved from Galicia to Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Silesia to Galicia
        3 infantry moved from Berlin to Silesia
        2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel
        5 infantry moved from Sevastopol to Persia
        5 artilleries moved from Sevastopol to Persia
        4 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Sevastopol to Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from South West Africa to Union of South Africa
              Germans take Union of South Africa from British

    Combat - Germans
        Air Battle in Alsace
            Germans attacks with 3 units heading to Alsace
            British launches 1 interceptors out of Alsace
                Attackers Fire,  : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Defenders Fire,  : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the British lost in Alsace
            Air Battle is over, the defenders have all died
        Battle in Alsace
            Germans attack with 7 artilleries, 3 fighters, 22 infantry and 3 tanks
            British defend with 11 artilleries, 14 infantry and 2 tanks; French defend with 1 infantry and 1 tank
                Germans roll dice for 7 artilleries, 3 fighters, 22 infantry and 3 tanks in Alsace, round 2 : 19/35 hits, 15.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 11 artilleries, 15 infantry and 3 tanks in Alsace, round 2 : 12/29 hits, 13.50 expected hits
            Units damaged: 3 tanks owned by the Germans
                9 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 tank owned by the French, 1 infantry owned by the French, 4 artilleries owned by the British and 13 infantry owned by the British lost in Alsace
            British and Germans reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is 37
            Casualties for Germans: 9 infantry
            Casualties for British: 4 artilleries and 13 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 infantry and 1 tank
        Battle in Switzerland
            Germans attack with 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 11 infantry
            French defend with 3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 tank
                Germans roll dice for 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 11 infantry in Switzerland, round 2 : 5/16 hits, 7.33 expected hits
                French roll dice for 3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 tank in Switzerland, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                4 infantry owned by the Germans, 3 infantry owned by the French and 2 artilleries owned by the French lost in Switzerland
            French and Germans reach a stalemate
            . Battle score for attacker is 5
            Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry
            Casualties for French: 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
        Battle in Ruhr
            Germans attack with 1 artillery and 13 infantry
            British defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 13 infantry in Ruhr, round 2 : 5/14 hits, 5.00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry in Ruhr, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Ruhr
            Germans win, taking Ruhr from British with 1 artillery and 11 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry

    Combat Move - Germans

    Place Units - Germans
        3 artilleries, 12 infantry and 1 tank placed in Berlin

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : 0.33
Defenders Fire,  : -0.33
Attackers Fire,  : 1.00
Germans regular : 1.50
British regular : -0.50

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@superbattleshipyamato said in TGC (CP) v Yamato (Entente), 1914, oob with RR:

@the_good_captain

Wow, really? By the way can we play ten games? Or are you too busy?

We can play as many as you like my friend. We will have you kicking CP butt in no time.