You’re right that this rule is ambigious in this rule book. But to me the intention of the game makers is very clear. That shows not from this rule book, but from all rule books after this version. For example in the rule book from 1943 2nd, They state specifically that all strategic bombing raids take place first. This resolves any argument about who pays the IPC’s to the bank, the attacker or the defender! Since they solved this in the next rule book, i think it is quite obvious what they intended and tried to correct.
Rockets have a firing range of 3 or 4?
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I have a problem with the rule regarding rocket fire. I read in the rules: « Choose an industrial complex within 3 spaces and roll one die for each gun ». But if we look at the image on page 33 of the official rules book (https://axisallies.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/axis-allies-rules-revised.pdf), it is impossible for Russia to reach Germany since it is a distance of 4 squares. What’s wrong?
The territory attacked must be within 3 squares or am I allowed 3 squares between the territory attacked and the one from which I shoot?
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You post in the AA50 (50th Anniversary Category) but address the rulebook of a different game (Revised).
So which game are you actually playing?
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@panther Oops, I thought I had taken a good look. On the official Axis & Allies website, it says: Revised (20th Anniversary) [PDF]. And as I said, it’s written on pages 20 (that, I didn’t give the page, just the piece of text that talks about it) and page 33 of the guide in PDF format that I gave as a link.
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@largowin Sorry, but you’re in the wrong forum. This one is for the 50th Anniversary (of Avalon Hill) Edition. You want the Revised (20th anniversary of A&A) Edition forum. I know, it’s confusing, as they’re both technically anniversary editions, but no one refers to Revised in that way anymore since the other came out. In order to avoid more confusion, please post your question there.
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@krieghund
ps Finally, you are sure of that. I just looked at the different forums and I think I’m in the right place. The description matches : Axis & Allies Anniversary Edition
Released October 2008, re-released October 2017
And I own the 2008 20th anniversary editionI only have to change my title i think if I can.
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@largowin The Rulebook you linked above is for the 2004 Revised Edition, not the 2008 Anniversary Edition.
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@largowin said in Rockets have a firing range of 3 or 4?:
The description matches : Axis & Allies Anniversary Edition
Released October 2008, re-released October 2017This is the 50th Anniversary Edition that this forum-category is about.
@largowin said in Rockets have a firing range of 3 or 4?:
And I own the 2008 20th anniversary edition
There is no such edition.
In 2008 the 50th Anniversary Edition had been issued (50th Anniversary of Avalon Hills).
The Revised Edition issued in 2004 celebrated the 20th Anniversary of the Axis&Allies brand, as in 1984 Axis & Allies (Classic) by MB had been issued (There was a 1981 Edition of A&A by Nova Games however).In case you own the 2008 50th Anniversary Edition, this forum is correct, but the rulebook - as @Krieghund already mentioned - you linked above as well as the pages you mentioned above are incorrect, as those refer to the older game. You should easily notice that the rulebook shipped with the 50th Anniversary game looks totally different from the one you linked to above.
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@largowin said in Rockets have a firing range of 3 or 4?:
it is impossible for Russia to reach Germany since it is a distance of 4 squares. What’s wrong?
In any case nothing is wrong. Rockets from Russia simply can’t reach Germany.
Now please reassure yourself and us which of the two games you address.
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@panther @Krieghund
I took this PDF from the official A&A site and it really says 20th anniversary (https://axisallies.com/rule-books/). But hey, I’m going to write my message in the 2004 section if you say so (especially since the BGG site seems to give you reason) since I played this game about thirty years ago, that I bought this used version 2-3 years ago. Then you are definitely the specialists. Thanks for your help. -
@largowin Despite its name, that’s not the official site. Renegade Game Studios’ Axis & Allies page is now the official site.
Again, while the game you’re talking about is an anniversary game, it’s not the anniversary game that this forum is about, and that everyone knows as the “Anniversary Edition”. (You can even see a link called “Anniversary Edition” on the site you linked that refers to that game.)
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@krieghund Yes, I understand what you are saying. Me, I relied on the official site where it speaks of a “Revised (20th Anniversary) [PDF]” (and the pdf link has the date 2014 in it) and the subtitle of this section of the forum speaks of “Released October 2008, re-released October 2017”. It was still confusing…
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@panther That’s why I’m asking, because page 33 of the 2004 guide (revised) then doesn’t say that if you look at the image and the text next to the image.
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@Panther Please move this topic to the correct forum.
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@krieghund I rewrote it in the correct section.I thought that was the way to do it. I hadn’t noticed that Panther was a moderator. I’m going to delete this topic in a few hours, the time to make sure not to be rude to him, because I replied to one of his messages by putting the image of the map.
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@largowin said in Rockets have a firing range of 3 or 4?:
@panther @Krieghund
I took this PDF from the official A&A site and it really says 20th anniversary (https://axisallies.com/rule-books/).Just to avoid confusion: The site axisallies.com is far from being official - how do you come to think it is?
“This site is put together by a quad of Axis & Allies game players…” as is stated on their homepage. However they provide rulebooks.@largowin said in Rockets have a firing range of 3 or 4?:
@krieghund I rewrote it in the correct section.
No, sorry, you re-posted in the Classic-Section, which addresses the 1984 MB game (see my statement above). I have deleted that posting to avoid further confusion.
I thought that was the way to do it. I hadn’t noticed that Panther was a moderator. I’m going to delete this topic in a few hours, the time to make sure not to be rude to him, because I replied to one of his messages by putting the image of the map.
Please don’t delete anything. I have moved the entire topic to the correct category in the meantime.
Maybe you are interested in the Wikipedia article about Axis&Allies, that will give you a good overview about the different versions and their appearance in history:
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@largowin said in Rockets have a firing range of 3 or 4?:
@panther That’s why I’m asking, because page 33 of the 2004 guide (revised) then doesn’t say that if you look at the image and the text next to the image.
This error has been covered in the official Revised-FAQ/Errata:
“Pages 33-34, A Sample Turn: Replace all text and diagrams referring to the antiaircraft gun in Russia with an antiaircraft gun in Caucasus.”
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@panther Hello.
I was sure this was the official site for the game since they managed to get the .com domain name. Normally, any company can take this name, even from another person who registered it before them, to show that it is their trade name. I guess naming a game shouldn’t be more complicated than that. That’s why with their title saying “Revised (20th Anniversary)”, I concluded that I had the very latest version of the rules. Is the best place to find the latest version of the rules on BGG?
And for the details on their site, I admit that I did not look too much, because English is not easy for me (I can normally understand it if I read a document, but it always requires an effort from me to read in English - and I have tu use Google translate to write here).
I came to question myself on this rules, because I decided to translate in French the booklets of 3 version of A&A which I have and to download them on the site of BGG, because I would like to replay them in the next few months with my nephew (I already played there more than 30 years ago and I liked it) and to have a French version of the rules to support my game.
Sorry again for not posting in the right forum. But since it said 1984-2004 in the subtitle and I had the 2004 rules, I automatically thought it was there
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@largowin You do have the latest version of the rules, for this game. There are, of course, later A&A games, the latest rules for which (those still in print anyway) can be found on Renegade Game Studios’ Axis & Allies page. Which versions do you have?
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@largowin said in Rockets have a firing range of 3 or 4?:
And, thx a lot for all!
You are welcome. Feel free to continue asking as you need it. It is just that we need to clearly figure out which of the games is addressed. As rules differ significantly the answers differ significantly, too.
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@krieghund I have 2004 Version , like you or Panther said
This is the version I have in my box and I need to translate the exact same rulebook to put it on the BGG website.Thanks for the link to the latest rules. If I understand correctly, can I use these rules with my 2004 version of the game?
I will translate these rules when I have finished translating those for the Europe version and 1941