HF - no scramble
L22 Pejon_88 (X) vs. Gamerman01 (A+15), BM4, game #2
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Hmm, an unconventional option presents itself. I’ll have to do some more analysis later
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@gamerman01 That’s sounds both interesting and a bit scary :D
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That’s what I was going for! Not sure yet, takes more study.
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@gamerman01 Waiting excitingly for your move :)
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Interesting, I was finally moving as you posted that!
Still tough sledding. Good thing I took 3 infantry into Stalingrad to kill one mech. Ouch.
I apologize for being slow. I don’t want it to be that someone either gets beat by me, or it takes forever to win.
But at least I didn’t quit prematurely - you should enjoy the benefits of all that solid play. You don’t leave much room for error. Or poor luck. In other words I admire your play!I think the conventional obvious move ended up being the best here.
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@gamerman01 Ok, great! Would be very interested to briefly hear what your mind was conjuring there if you don’t mind? :)
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Yup, can’t say right away and it was probably foolish anyway - I’m so used to Egypt being the last city.
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@gamerman01 Interesting to discuss after the game if not before then.
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Round: 7 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 13 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 5 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 armour moved from Yunnan to Burma Japanese take Burma from UK_Pacific 1 armour moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Hunan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Szechwan 1 bomber moved from Kiangsi to Szechwan 2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Anhwe 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Manchuria 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 1 fighter moved from Dutch New Guinea to 55 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 19 Sea Zone to Manchuria 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kiangsu to Manchuria 1 bomber moved from Kiangsi to Manchuria 3 fighters moved from Japan to Korea 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Hunan Combat - Japanese Battle in 55 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine British defend with 1 submarine Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 55 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 submarine Battle in Manchuria Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Manchuria, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 3,17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Manchuria Japanese win, taking Manchuria from Chinese with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in Hunan Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2,50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan Japanese win with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Szechwan Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Szechwan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan Japanese win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Anhwe Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Anhwe, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2,67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Anhwe Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Anhwe, round 3 : 4/6 hits, 2,67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Anhwe, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Anhwe Japanese win, taking Anhwe from Chinese with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in Korea Japanese attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Korea, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Korea, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Korea Japanese win, taking Korea from Russians with 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 3 fighters moved from Korea to Japan 1 bomber moved from Manchuria to Japan 1 fighter and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 19 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea 1 fighter moved from 55 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to 19 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to 35 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Philippines 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Guam to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 marines moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 marines and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to French Indo China 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 4 carriers, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kwangtung Place Units - Japanese 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone 4 infantry placed in Japan 3 infantry placed in Kiangsu 3 infantry placed in Kwangtung 3 infantry placed in French Indo China Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 58 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0,67 Japanese regular : -1,33 Russians regular : -0,33 British regular : 0,83Great defense round.
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Was on a pretty miserable sub defense streak in my games, so that one is a surprise. A lot of plinking until Anhwe and Korea, yes, stiff
Today I completely whiffed on UK1 Zone 97, first round attack
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@gamerman01 Almost like in this game. Well not whiffed, but I could save my BB.
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My brain is in a different place right now -
Which battle was that?
I’m working on what looks like a huge error in the Triple A calculator. I think I might have found it years ago but forgot.
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Oh man.
Triple A calculator isn’t rolling for the AAAs at all.120 bombers vs 40 AAA and 1 infantry
Calculator has the attacker only losing 1/3 of 1 bomber.
I get wrong results on small, normal battles too. Time to alert everyone I think.
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@gamerman01 When you attacked in SZ97 and I scrambled. Maybe UK2 or UK3.
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@pejon_88 Hmm I get 60 bombers versus 10 AA (should be 6 hits) an average of 55.01 attackers left on run count 20k
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@pejon_88 Adding one inf in def gives attackers left 54.67.
Doesn’t sound wrong to me?
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@pejon_88 My bad forgot the AAA shoots at maximum 3 air. If I’m not mistaken 60 bombers versus 20AAA should result in 30 attackers left, but calculator says 50? Adding an inf -> 49.71.
Am I thinking this entirely wrong?
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@pejon_88 1/6 + 1/6 +1/6 = 3/6, i.e 50% chance that 1AAA hits 1 air. Damn that means that there should be 40 attackers left, not 30 right?!
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Survived with 2 planes and a battleship on a 59/35
That was even worse for me than I was thinking -
No, I think you’re pretty confused.
1 AA vs 3 bombers should on average take down 1/2 a bomber
2 AA vs 6 bombers should on average take down 1 bomber
Now let me know what you’re seeing after trying a few more things.
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