L22 #1 trulpen (X+6) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V

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@artofwar1947 said in L22 #1 trulpen (X+6) vs ArtofWar1947 (A) P2V:

Assumed no scrambles as chance of US win was 100%.

That’s good.

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No moves for Italy.

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ArtofWar1947

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Game History

Round: 25

   Research Technology - Germans



   Purchase Units - Germans

       Germans buy 3 armour, 6 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 



   Combat Move - Germans



   Non Combat Move - Germans

       3 infantry moved from Rostov to Northern Caucasus

       3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov

       3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Northern Caucasus

       1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Timguska to Kazakhstan

       1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Northern Caucasus

       1 aaGun moved from Stalingrad to Kazakhstan

       2 fighters moved from Yugoslavia to Stalingrad

       1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Stalingrad

       2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Northern Italy

       1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Yugoslavia

       1 infantry moved from Greece to Albania

       1 infantry moved from Albania to Yugoslavia

       2 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy

       2 infantry moved from France to Southern France

       1 battleship, 3 carriers, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 116 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone

       2 tactical_bombers moved from Yugoslavia to Western Germany

       3 infantry moved from Western Germany to Austria

       1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to France

       3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Norway to Vyborg

       34 artilleries moved from Norway to Finland

       23 infantry moved from Norway to Finland

       1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone

       1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone

       1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone

       8 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia

       1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone

       1 fighter moved from France to 115 Sea Zone



   Place Units - Germans

       1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany

       1 mech_infantry placed in Leningrad

       2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia

       3 artilleries placed in Stalingrad

       Turning on Edit Mode

       EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Russia: 3 infantry

       EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Samara: 3 infantry

       EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

       3 artilleries placed in Yugoslavia

       1 transport placed in 115 Sea Zone

       Germans undo move 1.

       1 mech_infantry placed in Leningrad

       1 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany

       2 infantry placed in France



   Turn Complete - Germans

       Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5

           Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3

       Germans collect 70 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 71 PUs

       Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 74 PUs

       Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs

       Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 94 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

ArtofWar1947

@trulpen

Russian fighter will stay put.

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Game History

Round: 25

   Purchase Units - Japanese

       Japanese buy 2 armour, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 7 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 4 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 



   Combat Move - Japanese

       2 transports moved from 40 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone

       4 infantry moved from Shan State to 39 Sea Zone

       4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 46 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea

       1 submarine moved from 46 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone

       5 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 46 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone

       1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

             Japanese take 44 Sea Zone from ANZAC

       1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern India to Sumatra

       4 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to Sumatra

       1 infantry moved from Uzbekistan to Turkmenistan

             Japanese take Turkmenistan from Russians

       1 infantry moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone

       1 transport moved from 46 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

       2 infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone

       1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

       1 infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone

       4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone

       4 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea

       2 tactical_bombers moved from 22 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone

       2 bombers moved from Davao to Sumatra



   Combat - Japanese

       Battle in 42 Sea Zone

           Japanese attack with 1 submarine

           ANZAC defend with 1 transport

               1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone

           Japanese win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6

           Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport

       Battle in 56 Sea Zone

           Japanese attack with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 5 tactical_bombers

           Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 2 transports

               Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits

               Japanese roll dice for 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/10 hits, 5,83 expected hits

               Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 transports in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits

               1 destroyer owned by the Americans and 2 transports owned by the Americans lost in 56 Sea Zone

           Japanese win with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20

           Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 2 transports

       Battle in Sumatra

           Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber

           ANZAC defend with 2 infantry

               Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Sumatra, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 2,83 expected hits

               ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits

               2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Sumatra

           Japanese win, taking Sumatra from ANZAC with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6

           Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry

       Battle in Dutch New Guinea

           Japanese attack with 4 fighters, 4 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers

           Americans defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry

               Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters, 4 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 5/12 hits, 5,33 expected hits

               Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits

               2 infantry owned by the Japanese, 3 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Dutch New Guinea

           Japanese win, taking Dutch New Guinea from Americans with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7

           Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry

           Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 3 infantry



   Non Combat Move - Japanese

       2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Western India to Baluchistan

       3 infantry moved from Eastern India to Western India

       7 infantry moved from Burma to Eastern India

       3 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma

       3 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State

       1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma

       2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan

       1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone

       1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone

       4 artilleries moved from Kazakhstan to Northern Caucasus

       2 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Northern Caucasus

       2 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Northern Caucasus

       2 infantry moved from Western Sinkiang to Kazakhstan

       1 infantry moved from Eastern Sinkiang to Western Sinkiang

       1 infantry moved from Northern Sinkiang to Western Sinkiang

       1 infantry moved from Kansu to Northern Sinkiang

       1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Eastern Sinkiang

       1 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Kansu

       1 infantry moved from Honan to Tsinghai

       1 infantry moved from Chahar to Inner Mongolia

       1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar

       1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Honan

       1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

       1 infantry moved from Hopei to Szechwan

       1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei

       1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi

       1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan

       1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kweichow

       1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan

       1 infantry moved from Shantung to Jehol

       2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe

       2 bombers moved from Sumatra to Malaya

       1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Sumatra to Malaya

       1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone

       3 carriers, 1 destroyer and 3 submarines moved from 22 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone

       1 carrier and 2 destroyers moved from 21 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone

       6 carriers moved from 46 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone

       2 fighters moved from Dutch New Guinea to 56 Sea Zone

       1 destroyer moved from 46 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone

       2 fighters moved from 22 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone

       1 destroyer moved from 46 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone

       1 destroyer moved from 46 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone

       1 destroyer moved from 46 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone

       4 submarines moved from 46 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone

       2 fighters moved from Dutch New Guinea to 56 Sea Zone

       2 tactical_bombers moved from Dutch New Guinea to 56 Sea Zone

       1 fighter moved from 21 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone

       2 tactical_bombers moved from Dutch New Guinea to 46 Sea Zone

       4 submarines moved from 46 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone

       1 transport moved from 46 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone

       1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone

       1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone

       1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone

       2 fighters moved from 22 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone

       2 carriers moved from 46 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone

       1 fighter moved from Japan to 46 Sea Zone

       1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone

       1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China



   Place Units - Japanese

       1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 4 submarines placed in 7 Sea Zone

       Turning on Edit Mode

       EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 21 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer

       EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 7 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer

       EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

       2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Kwangtung

       2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in French Indo China

       Japanese undo move 1.

       1 submarine placed in 40 Sea Zone

       2 infantry placed in Eastern India

       1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 3 submarines placed in 7 Sea Zone

       1 infantry placed in Japan

       2 infantry placed in Shantung

       Japanese undo move 6.

       1 infantry placed in Japan



   Turn Complete - Japanese

       Japanese collect 79 PUs; end with 80 PUs

       Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 83 PUs

       Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs

       Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 93 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0,33

Japanese regular : -0,33

ANZAC regular : -0,67

gamerman01

OK guys, I just asked and Krieghund supplied the answer from a FAQ. You can’t get the definitive answer from the rulebook.

If you want to amphibiously assault from an ally’s transport and you have no attacking naval or air units of your own in the zone, the defender can scramble one plane to make the sea zone hostile, which prevents the amphibious assault but destroys nothing (nothing happens).

trulpen

Thanks, @gamerman01!

That was the conclusion I made from the rulebook as well.

ArtofWar1947

@gamerman01

Thanks Gamerman, good to know. It seems, though, like a rule that should change–either the scrambled fighter should destroy the attacking TTs or have no effect. But I’ll leave that to those more knowledgeable about the game. At the very least, it would be nice if the AA program reflected the rules.

trulpen

I agree that the situation of not being able to attack units not active in offense during a nation’s turn is an anomaly. Yet, such are the rules. It’s a very special case anyway.