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21 Playoff BM Farmboy+20 vs Majikforce
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@majikforce Rus8.tsvg forgot to move the sub so reposted
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@farmboy Man! I know I haven’t played very well but the dice have really been against me all game. Jap 8.tsvg
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@majikforce yeah, sorry. The bad luck has certainly followed you this game.
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@majikforce UK8.tsvg Game History
Round: 8 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters, 1 harbour, 6 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 3 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium 2 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Germany 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 17 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone Americans take 35 Sea Zone from Japanese 2 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to Guam 4 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Strategic bombing raid in Germany Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 7 and causes: 7 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Germany causes 7 damage total. Battle in 43 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 4 fighters Japanese defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 4 fighters in 43 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 43 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 43 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Americans, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 43 Sea Zone Americans win with 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Battle in Holland Belgium Americans attack with 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Americans roll dice for 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium Americans win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Guam Americans attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Japanese defend with 1 airfield and 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Guam, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Guam, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Guam Americans win, taking Guam from Japanese with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Iwo Jima Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Iwo Jima, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Iwo Jima Americans win, taking Iwo Jima from Japanese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to Midway 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone 2 carriers, 1 fighter and 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Caroline Islands to 22 Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from 43 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Marianas 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 30 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 carrier and 1 submarine moved from 30 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq 5 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 2 destroyers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 bomber moved from Germany to Norway 1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Morocco 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 4 carriers, 3 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 marine and 3 submarines moved from 35 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 harbour placed in Marianas 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States 1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux 1 factory_minor placed in Norway Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 66 PUs; end with 66 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 86 PUs Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 91 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 96 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 101 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 106 PUs Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 111 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Caroline Islands: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Queensland: 1 fighter EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Combat Move - Chinese Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 1 PU; end with 3 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Sikang to Kazakhstan Russians take Kazakhstan from Japanese 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Sikang to Shensi Combat - British Battle in Shensi British attack with 1 artillery and 5 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery and 5 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shensi British win, taking Shensi from Japanese with 1 artillery and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 aaGun moved from Sikang to Shensi 4 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 aaGun moved from Persia to Northwest Persia 4 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Northwest Persia 1 armour moved from Egypt to Iraq 1 fighter moved from Persia to Egypt 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Persia to India 3 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 carrier, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway 1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Norway 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya Place Units - British 2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Persia 3 infantry placed in Egypt 2 fighters and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 4 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 18 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 4 infantry
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.83 Japanese regular : -0.50 Germans AA : -0.17 Germans regular : -0.67 British regular : -0.33
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@farmboy Can’t believe how bad I played this game. Too many things going on at the moment to even try and get back into this one. The dice didn’t help either. GL in the playoffs. (really though I’m not this bad , not saying I would of won but I definitely can put on a better showing than this) GG I’ll post.
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@majikforce gg! The dice really didn’t give you much of a chance, and I can appreciate how frustrating that is.
Apart from the dice, I thought there were two key mistakes made. The first was your attack on the Soviets in China in round 2. You were almost certain to win, but it was almost certainly also going to be too heavy cost to Japanese air. And that gave the US too much room to operate in the pacific. The other was that you moved too much german air east to soon. You may have needed to do so earlier to guarantee your hold on Bryansk, but leaving them gave the allies more room to maneuver and allowed me to secure Normandy sooner.
Can certainly play a rematch down the road.