Global 1943 Expansion, Revised

TripleaA lobby is seeing a lot of bids between 16-24 on average? In LL I agree with what’s been said, I really am starting to come to the conclusion that even mid-20s makes it a very tough match for Allies. I am not surprised the league is going higher than that. But I really do think you need to guage the skill level of your opponent. If you get a newbie in your triplea lobby, maybe cut them a break. It’s the somewhat experienced guys that always throw me, strong for about 3-5 rounds but then don’t really have any mid-game strategy experieince. It’s hard to know how much to bid in those cases too.

But anyway, back to what units are getting bought: Subs/DDs around the Med for UK. Sometimes fighters for UK (Scotland, Malta). Other threads have answered this question as well, from recent memory: Inf in Yunnan for example, and ground units in africa.

Less often variations: Russia bomber, UK transport in South Africa. UK sub in Malaya. I’ve also seen Subs in the north atlantic.

Some people dump a bunch of ground units in Russia. Whether or not that actually does anything I doubt.

I am also going to take this opportunity to plug this thread about Bids and bid rules: https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35874/allied-bids-what-are-the-common-rules-on-placement … I do so to personally recommend not allowing facilities for bids.

@the-captain

Due to the fact that whilst most of your rules are historically accurate, their execution I have some problems with. To fix that, I wrote an article on changes to The Captain’s rules:

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/37504/let-s-make-the-axis-and-allies-global-1940-expansion-rules-even-more-accurate?_=1636385389023

@barnee

From my previous setup, the following changed highlighted are (DELETED NEW)

Victory Conditions:
Axis: Control 8 European Victory Cities or Control 6 Pacific Victory Cities, either one for a Complete Round of Play following the capture of the last necessary Victory City
Allies: Control 4 of [Berlin, Tokyo, Rome, Paris, Shanghai, Warsaw, Hong Kong, and Manila] for a Complete Round of Play following the capture of the last necessary Victory City

-SOVIET UNION (30 IPCs)
Russia: Major Industrial Complex, Air Base, 4 Infantry, 1 Mechanised Infantry, 2 Artillery, 2 Tanks, 2 AAA, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Novgorod: Minor Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 AAA, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Volgograd: Minor Industrial Complex, 4 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Karelia: 2 Infantry
Archangel: 2 Infantry, 1 Tank
Vologda: 1 Infantry
Tambov: 1 Infantry
Caucasus: 2 Infantry
Urals: 1 Infantry, 2 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Tanks, 1 Tactical Bomber
Novosibirsk: 4 Infantry
Samara: 2 Infantry
Kazakhstan: 2 Infantry
Evenkiyskiy: 2 Infantry
Timguska: 1 Infantry
Yenisey: 2 Infantry
Yakut S.S.R.: 1 Infantry
Buryatia: 3 Infantry
Sakha: 2 Infantry, 2 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 2 AAA
Amur: 3 Infantry
Siberia: 3 Infantry
Soviet Far East: 1 Infantry
Iraq: Control Marker, 1 Mechanized Infantry
Northwest Persia: Control Marker
Persia: Control Marker, 1 Tank
Eastern Persia: Control Marker
Sea Zone 5: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 115: 1 Submarine, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 127: 1 Destroyer

-EMPIRE OF JAPAN (45 IPCs)
Japan: Major Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 6 Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 Tank, 4 AAA, 1 Fighter, 2 Tactical Bombers, 2 Strategic Bombers
Siam: 4 Infantry
Korea: 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Okinawa: 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Formosa: 1 Fighter
Paulau Island: 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Strategic Bombers
Iwo Jima: 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 AAA, 1 Tactical Bomber
Caroline Islands: Air Base, Naval Base, 2 Infantry, 1 AAA, 1 Fighter
Kiangsu: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 4 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Philippines: Control Marker, Air Base, Naval Base, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter
Kwangtung: Control Marker, Naval Base, 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Malaya: Control Marker, Naval Base, 1 Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 AAA, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Shan State: Control Marker, 1 Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 AAA
Kwangsi: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
French Indo China: Control Marker, 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Tank
Sumatra: Control Marker, 2 Infantry
Java: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Celebes: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Jehol: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Shantung: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Kiangsi: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Borneo: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Manchuria: Control Marker, 4 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Guam: Control Marker, Air Base
Dutch New Guinea: Control Marker
New Britain: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
New Guinea: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Wake Island: Control Marker, Air Base
Gilbert Islands: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Sea Zone 6: 1 Transport, 1 Submarine, 1 Cruiser, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter and 1 Tactical Bomber), 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 17: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 19: 2 Submarines
Sea Zone 20: 1 Transport, 2 Destroyers
Sea Zone 31: 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 33: 2 Submarines, 1 Destroyer, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter and 1 Tactical Bomber)
Sea Zone 35: 1 Cruiser, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter), 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 37: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 42: 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter and 1 Tactical Bomber)

-UNITED STATES (52 IPCs)
Eastern United States: Major Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 AAA, 1 Tactical Bomber
Western United States: Major Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 4 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 Tank, 2 AAA, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber, 1 Strategic Bomber
Central United States: Major Industrial Complex, 2 Infantry, 4 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Tank
Hawaiian Islands: Air Base, Naval Base, 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 AAA, 2 Fighters
Midway: Air Base, 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Alaska: 2 Infantry
Iceland: 1 Fighter
Solomon Islands: 1 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Brazil: Control Marker
Eire: Control Marker, 1 Strategic Bomber
Sea Zone 10: 2 Transports, 1 Destroyer, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter), 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 25: 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter and 1 Tactical Bomber), 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 26: 1 Transport, 1 Submarine, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 29: 2 Submarines, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter and 1 Tactical Bomber)
Sea Zone 49: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 64: 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 101: 2 Transports, 1 Battleship

-CHINA (12 IPCs)
Suiyuyan: 3 Infantry
Shensi: 1 Infantry
Szechwan: 1 Infantry
Hopei: 4 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter
Kweichow: 3 Infantry
Hunan: 3 Infantry
Yunnan: 6 Infantry

-GERMAN REICH (51 IPCs)
Germany: Major Industrial Complex, 6 Infantry, 4 Artillery, 3 AAA, 1 Fighter, 2 Strategic Bombers
Poland: 2 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Tactical Bomber
Holland Belgium: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Norway: 3 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Denmark: 1 Infantry, 1 Tank
Western Germany: Major Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 4 Tanks, 3 AAA, 2 Fighters, 3 Tactical Bombers
Greater Southern Germany: 4 Infantry
Slovakia Hungary: 2 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Tanks
Romania: 2 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Alexandria: 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Tank
France: Control Marker, Minor Industrial Complex, Air Base, 1 Infantry, 2 Mechanized Infantry, 1 AAA, 1 Tactical Bomber
Morocco: Control Marker, 3 Infantry
Normandy Bordeaux: Control Marker, Minor Industrial Complex, Naval Base, 2 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Finland: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Vyborg: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Baltic States: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Eastern Poland: Control Marker, 3 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Bessarabia: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Bulgaria: Control Marker, 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Crete: Control Marker, 1 Tactical Bomber
Belarus: Control Marker, 4 Infantry
Western Ukraine: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Ukraine: Control Marker, Minor Industrial Complex, 4 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 AAA
Smolensk: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 1 Tactical Bomber
Bryansk: Control Marker, 2 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Rostov: Control Marker, 3 Infantry
Sea Zone 99: 1 Transport
Sea Zone 103: 2 Submarines
Sea Zone 105: 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 113: 1 Submarine, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 118: 2 Submarines
Sea Zone 124: 2 Submarines

-UNITED KINGDOM (29 IPCs for Europe, 13 IPCs for Pacific)
United Kingdom: Major Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 3 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 4 AAA, 3 Fighters, 1 Strategic Bomber
Egypt: Naval Base, 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Quebec: Minor Industrial Complex, 1 Infantry, 1 Tank
New Brunswick Nova Scotia: Naval Base
Iceland: Air Base
Scotland: Air Base, 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 AAA, 1 Fighter
Gibraltar: Naval Base, 1 Tactical Bomber
Malta: 1 Infantry, 1 AAA, 1 Fighter
Trans-Jordan: 2 Infantry
Anglo Egyptian Sudan: 1 Infantry
Union of South Africa: Minor Industrial Complex, Naval Base, 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry
British Columbia/Western Canada: 1 Infantry
Suriname: Control Marker
Ethiopia: Control Marker
Italian Somaliland: Control Marker
Sea Zone 71: 1 Transport
Sea Zone 92: 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 97: 1 Cruiser, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Tactical Bomber)
Sea Zone 98: 1 Transport, 1 Submarine, 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 106: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 109: 1 Transport, 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 110: 1 Transport, 1 Cruiser, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter)
Sea Zone 111: 1 Transport, 1 Submarine, 1 Destroyer, 1 Battleship
India: Major Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 6 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Artillery, 4 AAA, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Kwangtung: Naval Base, 2 Infantry
Malaya: Naval Base, 3 Infantry
West India: 1 Infantry
Burma: 2 Infantry, 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Shan State: 2 Infantry
Sumatra: Control Marker
Celebes: Control Marker
Sea Zone 38: 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 39: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter)
Sea Zone 44: 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 45: 1 Cruiser

-EMPIRE OF ITALY (18 IPCs)
Southern Italy: Minor Industrial Complex, Air Base, Naval Base, 6 Infantry, 2 AAA, 2 Fighters
Northern Italy: Major Industrial Complex, 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 Tanks, 2 AAA, 1 Strategic Bomber
Sardinia: 1 Infantry
Sicily: 1 Infantry
Libya: 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 Tank
Albania: 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Tank
Tobruk: 3 Infantry
Western Ukraine: 1 Infantry
Rostov: 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Southern France: Control Marker, Minor Industrial Complex, Naval Base, 2 Infantry
Algeria: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Tunisia: Control Marker, 1 Infantry
Yugoslavia: Control Marker, 2 Infantry
Greece: Control Marker, 2 Infantry
Alexandria: Control Marker, 1 Infantry, 1 Tactical Bomber
Sea Zone 87: 2 Submarines
Sea Zone 93: 1 Transport, 1 Submarines, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 94: 1 Submarine
Sea Zone 95: 1 Transport, 2 Cruisers, 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 96: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer

-ANZAC (10 IPCs)
New South Wales: Minor Industrial Complex, Naval Base, 1 Infantry, 1 Mechanized Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 AAA
Western Australia: 2 Infantry
Queensland: Air Base, Naval Base, 2 Infantry
New Zealand: Air Base, Naval Base, 1 Infantry, 2 Fighters
Egypt: 2 Infantry
Malaya: 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Burma: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Sumatra: 2 Infantry
Celebes: 2 Infantry
Sea Zone 54: 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 62: 1 Transport, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 63: 1 Submarine, 1 Aircraft Carrier (Carrying 1 Fighter)

-FRENCH REPUBLIC (0 IPCs, Capital Under Occupation)
French West Africa: 1 Infantry
French Central Africa: 1 Infantry
French Equatorial Africa: 1 Infantry
Syria: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
United Kingdom: 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber
Sea Zone 72: 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 98: 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 109: 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 110: 1 Destroyer

@Mr-Kell Ah yes they do but you can’t get the infantry to Paris before Germany can but you can get the fighter so that adds on defense. If you pay attention to what I set up, it’s still pretty damn favorable for Germany, it just has to bring in the airforce to make it a victory.

@baron-Münchhausen

I reviewed the 2 hits Battleship values to 2.5 multiplier factor.
It is an approximation but this is easier to use this value if you need to assess between two naval fleet during a live game with no AACalc allowed.

It is based on the very even (almost 50%-50% survival equilibrium ) combat between 1 Destroyer @2 and 1 Cruiser @3 against 1 Battleship, 2 hits @4.
http://calc.axisandallies.org/?mustland=0&abortratio=0&saveunits=0&strafeunits=0&aInf=&aArt=&aArm=&aFig=&aBom=&aTra=&aSub=&aDes=&aCru=&aCar=&aBat=1&adBat=&dInf=&dArt=&dArm=&dFig=&dBom=&dTra=&dSub=&dDes=1&dCru=1&dCar=&dBat=&ddBat=&ool_att=Bat-Inf-Art-AArt-Arm-Sub-SSub-Des-Fig-JFig-Cru-Bom-HBom-Car-dBat-Tra&ool_def=Bat-Inf-Art-AArt-Arm-Bom-HBom-Sub-SSub-Des-Car-Cru-Fig-JFig-dBat-Tra&battle=Run&rounds=&reps=10000&luck=pure&ruleset=AA1942&territory=&round=1&pbem=

1 Destroyer @2 and 1 Cruiser @3
5 pips * 2 hits = 10 pips*hits

1 Battleship, 2 hits @4.
4 pips * 1 BB worth 2.5 hits = 10 pips*hits

The downfall is that this will be heavily in favor for the Allies.

There were a few wars fought in South America in the early 30’s. I don’t know who had who’s backing in those conflicts. There was the Guerra del 41 between Equador and Peru. I know the US supported Peru and Japan supported Equador, but I’m pretty sure that support was from the bleachers. The only equipment I can tell you for sure that was used was the Czech LTP (Panzer 38t). These were used by Peru.
Peru had all the gear. They actually prepared for war. This lead to Peru having a 3-4 to 1 advantage in men and equipment. Except for tanks. Equador had none. Peru had around 25. Take a wild guess at who won.

That SHOULD A US bonus. They need more offensive oriented bonuses.
It feels like they are too reactionary (take back X, don’t lose Y) and all in the pacific.

They should have a homeland bonus for 20
and 2 Pacific bonuses and 2 Atlantic bonuses.

Atlantic:
5 IPCs if the Axis controls no territory in the middle east or Africa
5 IPCs for allied Co-occupation of either of the following: Normandy/Bordeaux, Holland/Belgium

Pacific
5 IPCs for control of the Philippines
5 IPCs if the Allies control Hawaii, Midway, and any three Japanese islands