Help! American declaration of war privilege

Dang it! Forgot that one. Just edited my previous post. Thanks ghr2.

Anyone use War at Sea miniatures in the global game?

Thanks JimmyHat,

Your response was appreciated.  We were having a late night game and an arguement about this.  A bet involving beer was on the line.

My bad  :roll:, I mistook Iceland to be an US territory. Nevermind my remarks, but thanks anyway Krieg!

@Zallomallo:

Yes, an act of war by Japan on UK or ANZAC(and maybe France?) puts them at war with the US.

It does not put them at war.  It allows them to declare war.  There is a rather large distinction, as Japan can end the turn in seazones with US ships (or attack seazones with both US and UK/Anzac ships, ignoring the US ships) that are still friendly to them until the US declares war on the combat move of its next turn.

Japan declaring war on France has no impact whatsoever.  Japan can declare war on france and as long as they don’t attack FIC, they’ll continue to collect their National Objective.  Even if they do attack FIC, japan only loses their objective.  It does not permit the US to declare war.

@Cmdr:

Stoney, I think yer misreading the NOs.

The copy I have in front of me says that America gets 10 IPC NO for controlling W. USA, C. USA and E. USA and being at war with Japan, Germany and Italy, not 30 IPC.

The OOB rules said 30, I believe, but the Alpha 2 rules only say 10, thank the creators!  America’s got PLENTY of money as it is without getting the equivalent of England entire income, from classic, as bonus income!

I’ll admit I don’t have the NOs in front of me (I’m in Doha atm!), but I’m pretty was what I said was accurate… as is what you said about the 10 IPC NO.  The US has 30 IPCs of NOs applicable when at war, but I did not mean to imply that it is still 1 whole NO: it is now divided into separate NOs, including the 10 IPC one you mentioned.

I am not a big fan of J1 attack - I think alot of that money starts heading towards Germany/Italy…and if I am an axis player I want Germany/Italy to not see a green pc of plastic rolling dice against me until US4-5 at the earliest…not US2!!!

Attacking strict neutrals would be very risky for either side. I could see the axis doing it, before the allies. The axis would have to coordinate their efforts to take out all the big boys before the allies could swoop in to gain the free units. I think you would have to start w/Italy invading Turkey, plus what else it could reach in Mid east or South Africa. Then Germany could invade Spain and Sweden before the allies could get there (US would have to be out of position, or not yet at war). If you started the invasions w/Germany, Russia & UK would swoop in before Italy to claim their free inf. Of course I think Germany could attack all 3 major strict neutrals in the same turn as well, because I think Germany can invade Turkey from Greece (land/bridge). Your still giving the allies the Mongolian and Afghan forces, unless Jap has them beat back at the time, plus the S Americans.

In any event, say the axis are successful in their attacks killing the inf, and gaining most of the tt. Say there wasn’t much left for the allies to claim. I would still think in the long run it might come back to bite them in the A$$. They will have lost some units in the battles, and will be spread pretty thin. They now have more tt to def from counter attack, or major allied invasion. Spain would give the allies another shore to perform a major amphib, and Turkey would allow Russia/UK to tag team Germany through that same land/bridge w/o messing with Russia’s NO. I can see some short term advantages though, like Italian amphib into the Black Sea, or extra $ for a round or two, but would the advantages out way the risk?