Submarine Movement and Customized Map

@master4709:

SS, that is an interesting idea with naval and air bases. What made you decide to not be able to purchase any during the game and limit 3 movement to non-combat only? Can they still be damaged by SBR?

The idea was for strategy and forcing the 1 extra turn for combat. Im not a big fan of bases but everybody else likes them. Yes the Air and Naval bases can be SBRed. Airbases still can scramble 3 planes for naval battles. Plus get the +1 move.

Are railways needed for a map this big for the USA and USSR?

For me we use the railway for Russia, US and Burma road. 2 Inf or 1 inf 1 Art can move 2 spaces ( Russia move 3 if they get there NA ) only per turn. The railroad is marked on my map.

I think I will add the convoy zone boxes to the map.

Yes I would too. Germany needs these boxes for game more.

I have found 2 changes to the map that enhance the game play - thought I would share.

Darfur - Minor Aligned with Ottoman Empire (1) IPC.  This new territory sits between French Equatorial Africa and Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, with Belgian Congo keeping a border on AES.  This change provides more action in Africa, without it just becoming a big waste of space by turn 3 or 4 and an IPC pump for the British.

Sea zone 31 - A new sea zone that splits SZ17 in half.  SZ31 borders SZ16 to the west, SZ17 to north, SZ19 to the east, and Libya/Egypt to the south.  All of Greece borders the new SZ31 and SZ20.  This change provides much more freedom of movement of any CP ships that leave their home ports from mine rolls.  From the Allied powers standpoint - protects from an AH early thrust into the Black Sea or Eastern Med.

UPDATE: Screenshot & TripleA save game file!

Note that both the map and the saved game are missing the neutral units (including French & Dutch), because the WW2v5 map in TripleA doesn’t allow for neutral units, but this should still save you a lot of setup time if you’re interested in playtesting the 1939 scenario.

AAA screenshot 1939.png
Argo 1939.tsvg

@baron-Münchhausen

Sweet ! haven’t read it yet but i will. Just wanted to say you and @Black_Elk online at same time lol Awesome !

@Uncrustable:

Maybe just limit this 2 moves to 1M unit for Non-Combat Move.
It is difficult to deploy units in combat order while travelling by train.
So all other M2 units will still get an advantage over the rail movement.

Not sure what your saying here, but it makes no sense to limit rail to certain units. And like i said would unbalanced land purchases.
It is a noncombat only move.
I thought it was also possible to make an attack move for 1M unit. Otherwise, why would a 2 Move units can have an interest to pick a 1M unit place? This 2M units can go as farther, and anywhere.

SORRy, I reread the post, you add+1 to all ground units. Fine.

Your IC idea makes sense.
But how would you do it?
It would most likely create confusion yes?
No difference from a regular SBr, just watch how many damage token under IC and reduce the number of unit moving 2 spaces by the same amounts. Damage on StRail is included in the regular damage on IC from the SBR.

Another way to limit it is never allowing SM from any VC outside of ‘friendly home territories’
So the Axis would never SM from a VC in Allied territory, but they can within each others home lands. OK, I agree.
Likewise for the Allies.
This both adds historical realism (destruction of the land/cities and everything within during the battles fought to occupy enemy soil)
and keeps it from being too powerful

So heres my latest map for A&A 1914. Includes East Prussia and all correct borders, Has some Zones for Askarideployment in Africa.

I kept Albania, neutral Greece and Moscow as Russian Capitol.

1914Balance.png

Cool idea, but I kind of like the dedicated Railhead idea discussed in the “ANTI-TANK” thread. It suggests a seperate facility that could be SBRd. Of course, you would have to buy at least two of them to make it work, plus own all territories in between to use them.

Hey Noll,
I tried out your idea in a game.  I played Germany.
LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO ME!!!
Do you see any Germans?  Do you see any Italians?  Of course not!  They have been TOTALLY wiped out off the face of the earth.  They don’t even exist anymore.
The attached pics show the end result of our game.  First you see Europe just crowded with British and Americans.  Then you see what’s left of Japan’s empire, just a few guys stuck out on some islands to go crazy by themselves.
Okay, actually this isn’t really a result of your new game idea, but of a tremendous blunder on the part of our Japan player.  Actually, it was looking good for the Axis right at first.  Germany smashed the Royal Navy with minimal losses in aircraft.  Italy was showing strong in the Med and poised to take Egypt (with a shiny new IC placed by UK) and Japan had taken Hong Kong, Philippines, Malaya, half of the DEI and were in good shape to get Calcutta.
That’s when Japan really screwed up.  They had purchased some warships to fight off the US fleet, most of which was by Hawaii, but had NOT A SINGLE UNIT ON JAPAN ITSELF!  All land units were on transports taking Hong Kong, etc. and all the planes were on the mainland or on carriers.
Well, like I said, the US had a good size fleet at the naval base in Hawaii so on the US turn 2, they floated right up to SZ 6 and promptly sank the Japanese warships there.  Then they “walked” onto Japan with 1 transport worth of units – 1 infantry + 1 artillery – and took out Japan.  US got about 50 IPCs or so plundered from Japan, plus reduced their major IC to a minor.
Japan did have enough stuff in range to take Japan back, but the US also had a back-up fleet, this one with 3 or 4 transports of men and equipment, ready to hit them again.  Which they did and took Japan again, gaining another 50 IPCs or so.  This time Japan lost all but 1 or 2 transports and those were out of range.  Japan was done for and after 2 or 3 rounds of mopping them up, ALL the Allies started heading for Europe.
Germany managed to take Moscow but the USA took Rome in the same round.  USA and Germany traded Northern Italy for a couple of rounds until USA finally won the territory with enough left over to keep it.  It was only a matter of time after that.  USA and UK kept taking territories along the Atlantic, Moscow got liberated and Calcutta just kept sending tanks and bombers to Europe.  Finally, after 14 rounds, we ended up with what you see in the pics.
I think if Japan hadn’t made such a moronic blunder, this could have very well been an Axis victory.  By the way, the rounds did go a little faster not having to mess with ANZAC, China and France.

Axis Defeated Europe.JPG
Axis Defeated Pacific.JPG