League General Discussion Thread

axis-dominion

@gamerman01, can you add some wording to the bidding rules for the NG inf placement that has been a longstanding accepted exception to the normal bidding rules?

gamerman01

@axis-dominion

Sorry, no.

It’s an exception from the simple rule, which is why it hasn’t been listed.

If we change it, then there is potential confusion with the way it was.

It shouldn’t matter because the “default” is really just a starting point, it’s not actually a rule. And if players can’t agree on whether to allow it or not, you could roll a die, or maybe you shouldn’t play each other.

Adam514

If a nation that lost its cap plunders a cap, can they use the plundered money?

Panther

@Adam514 said in League General Discussion Thread:

If a nation that lost its cap plunders a cap, can they use the plundered money?

No, as the player skips all but the Combat Move, Conduct Combat, and Noncombat Move phases until the capital is liberated.

Adam514

@Panther said in League General Discussion Thread:

@Adam514 said in League General Discussion Thread:

If a nation that lost its cap plunders a cap, can they use the plundered money?

No, as the player skips all but the Combat Move, Conduct Combat, and Noncombat Move phases until the capital is liberated.

Do they keep the money or is it destroyed?

Panther

@Adam514 said in League General Discussion Thread:

@Panther said in League General Discussion Thread:

@Adam514 said in League General Discussion Thread:

If a nation that lost its cap plunders a cap, can they use the plundered money?

No, as the player skips all but the Combat Move, Conduct Combat, and Noncombat Move phases until the capital is liberated.

Do they keep the money or is it destroyed?

You collect these IPCs even if your own capital is in enemy hands.

Martin

Are the old games / game threads archived anywhere?

I wanted to have a look at some old OOB playoff games, but noticed that in “Post League Game Results Here” there is no result from before the year 2018.

Some Playoff games in the league rankings spreadsheet show a game ID. But entering these into the URL leads to an error message (“not found”).

Does anyone know, or is this rather a question for Dave Jensen? It would be a pity if legendary OOB battles would be lost forever.

gamerman01

Yes, ask Dave, maybe they were archived off-line.

There would be some hope that a player involved in one of those old games actually saved the file themselves. Ask them if they have it. You would probably also need to install an old version of Triple A.

Depending on how badly you want one, it is possible to reconstruct them if the Triple A game summaries are intact. I haven’t had enough time to get very far, but I am reconstructing the 2013 OOB championship game. So far it’s worth it, the G1 was wild. Let 110 (and 111?) go, used the aircraft to overwhelm Paris, sending fast movers immediately at Russia, complete with a slingshot on Yugo.

Martin

Thank you - I will ask Dave and eventually some players

gamerman01

Ghostglider v gamerman01 2014 champ J2.tsvg

Here’s G1 and R1 of the 2014 championship
I was putting it together in case crockett36 wanted to review an old one

gamerman01

But yes, exhaust options 1 and 2 first.
I thought I would have saved my old save files, but maybe didn’t survive transitions to new computers over the years

Martin

Where did you get the old game results before 2018 from? Is there another thread than “Post League Game Results Here”?

Martin

Ah, forget about the last question - I did not think of the League Ranking table which I mentioned myself, LOL :-)

gamerman01

@Martin Yes, we used to have a separate thread for each year.
2017 - 28656
2016 - 26706
2015 - 24308
2014 - 21921
2013 - 18628

gamerman01

Those will point you to the actual games.
Yes, the league rankings spreadsheet goes all the way back, and so does the current ELO spreadsheet - dates, players, sides, who won, bids

Martin

Awesome - thank you very much! I will look into this and maybe post a few final games for the ones who might be interested. If and once I find them.

gamerman01

Let us know what Dave says, and maybe just put out the general call (like I guess we are right now) for any players who actually saved Triple A files from many years ago.

Kind of surprised mine only go back to 2020

gamerman01

But again, for a particularly momentous game, they CAN be re-created. At least until they’re not interesting any more.

Martin

I did not understand what you were talking about with “recreating games”, until I noticed that only the game history is shown in these old threads but not the saved game posted.

How did that work? Were the saved games only shared by email and not posted?

Re-creating must be a nightmare with millions of edits…

Adam514

@Martin said in League General Discussion Thread:

I did not understand what you were talking about with “recreating games”, until I noticed that only the game history is shown in these old threads but not the saved game posted.

How did that work? Were the saved games only shared by email and not posted?

Re-creating must be a nightmare with millions of edits…

They were deleted to make space on the site.

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