G40 Gauss_Death (Allies +13) vs oysteilo (Axis)

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 14

Combat Move - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
            1 armour moved from Iraq to Persia
            1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Russians

@Gauss_Death:

Yeah, that was a lot of bad rolling for me. I should have come out of that with about 30 units, not 9.

Yeah, that is what I was calculating too about 30 units. but it is so unpredictable on these battles with large number of units. If I hit slightly above average and you slightly below it is suddenly a 19-15 unit swing on round 1. Then it is a completely different battle. I really dont know what the odds are for the current outcome

@oysteilo:

@Gauss_Death:

Yeah, that was a lot of bad rolling for me. I should have come out of that with about 30 units, not 9.

Yeah, that is what I was calculating too about 30 units. but it is so unpredictable on these battles with large number of units. If I hit slightly above average and you slightly below it is suddenly a 19-15 unit swing on round 1. Then it is a completely different battle. I really dont know what the odds are for the current outcome

I meant 10 -15 on the first round

i dont know. Do you have any input on this? According to the battle calculator you are a 96% chance to win and on average you should have 33 units left. Now this is where it gets interesting, IF I win I should have 11 units left on average

In my head this means there is a 4% chance I will have from 1 - 22 units left AND there is a 96% chance you will have 1 - 66 units left. You ended up having 9 units left. Maybe this is somewhere in the range of 15%?? This is basically my question, do you have a good feel for this?( because  I certainly dont)

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 14

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            12 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Western United States to British Columbia
            1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 1 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 1 Sea Zone to Alaska
            2 bombers moved from Western United States to British Columbia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to British Columbia
            2 bombers moved from Norway to Novgorod
            1 armour moved from Finland to Vyborg
                  Americans take Vyborg from Germans
            1 armour moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            3 armour moved from Finland to Novgorod
            1 mech_infantry moved from Finland to Novgorod
            2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Queensland to 42 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Novgorod
                Americans attack with 4 armour, 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 6 infantry; Japanese defend with 2 mech_infantrys
                Americans win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -20
                Casualties for Germans: 6 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 3 armour, 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 mech_infantrys
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                Americans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in Alaska
            Battle in British Columbia
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                Americans win, taking Alaska from Japanese, taking British Columbia from Japanese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber and 2 submarines
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer and 2 transports
                Americans win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 bomber and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer and 2 transports
            Battle in 34 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 12 fighters and 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 12 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Americans
            9 fighters moved from 34 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from 34 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 23 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            4 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            2 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from British Columbia to Western United States
            1 tactical_bomber moved from British Columbia to Western United States
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 26 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from British Columbia to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 aaGun, 4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 4 artilleries, 5 infantry and 5 transports moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Norway to Karelia
            2 carriers moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 1 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 2 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            1 factory_minor placed in Finland
            1 bomber placed in Norway
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Norway
            1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            2 fighters placed in 10 Sea Zone
            3 infantry placed in Western United States
            Americans undo move 5.
            2 fighters placed in Western United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 63 PUs; end with 63 PUs total
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 83 PUs

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 14

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 4 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 4 PUs total

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 14

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 artillery, 6 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 mech_infantry moved from Karelia to Baltic States
                  British take Baltic States from Germans
            1 mech_infantry moved from Karelia to Belarus
                  British take Belarus from Germans
            4 armour moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            7 artilleries moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            3 artilleries moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            12 mech_infantrys moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            8 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Libya to 96 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            4 fighters moved from Norway to Normandy Bordeaux

Combat - British
            Battle in Greece
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                British attack with 1 artillery, 4 fighters and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                British win, taking Greece from Italians, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 1 artillery, 4 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Holland Belgium
            Battle in Caucasus
                British attack with 4 armour, 10 artilleries, 1 bomber, 8 infantry and 13 mech_infantrys
                Japanese defend with 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys
                British win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans, taking Caucasus from Japanese with 4 armour, 10 artilleries, 1 bomber, 8 infantry and 13 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys

Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Persia
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Caucasus
            3 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia
            1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
            11 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
            2 aaGuns moved from West India to Eastern Persia
            4 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            1 submarine placed in 98 Sea Zone
            1 submarine placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            British undo move 3.
            3 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Persia
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Egypt

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 14

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 artillery, 6 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 mech_infantry moved from Karelia to Baltic States
                  British take Baltic States from Germans
            1 mech_infantry moved from Karelia to Belarus
                  British take Belarus from Germans
            4 armour moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            7 artilleries moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            3 artilleries moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            12 mech_infantrys moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            8 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Libya to 96 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            4 fighters moved from Norway to Normandy Bordeaux

Combat - British
            Battle in Greece
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                British attack with 1 artillery, 4 fighters and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                British win, taking Greece from Italians, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 1 artillery, 4 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Holland Belgium
            Battle in Caucasus
                British attack with 4 armour, 10 artilleries, 1 bomber, 8 infantry and 13 mech_infantrys
                Japanese defend with 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys
                British win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans, taking Caucasus from Japanese with 4 armour, 10 artilleries, 1 bomber, 8 infantry and 13 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys

Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Persia
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Caucasus
            3 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia
            1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
            11 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
            2 aaGuns moved from West India to Eastern Persia
            4 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            1 submarine placed in 98 Sea Zone
            1 submarine placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            British undo move 3.
            3 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Persia
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Egypt

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Finland: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Karelia: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Can you do me a favor? I did forget to move my British dudes in finland to Karelia. Thats the edit. But my bomber needs to land in trans jordan instead of Persia. It came from Egypt With airbase attacking caucasus

@Gauss_Death:

I concede. I did not expect you to take the Baltic States or Belarus. I cannot defend against the Americans coming in through Novgorod AND the British coming in through Caucasus and Greece.

It doesn’t matter how many units I produce.

Japan is in a slow slide against the American fleet.

Frankly, I should have gone against Russia several turns earlier. Either that or built a fleet of submarines and used those as soakers for the aircraft to push the american fleet off of the shores of Europe.

Play again?

I agree that germany has some serious trouble and now USA can produce 9 units in Europe . And yes, there is stuff for Japan to worry about too. It also looks like anzac is able to produce some support for the USA. But Japan is still very strong I think. But conceding is your right and choice! I think this has been a very good and fun game.  I think the biggest problem for the axis is italy did nothing in the last 5, 6? rounds. Maybe Germany should have helped here. Maybe you should have gone for Russia earlier, but still I had a bunch of planes sitting in Norway /middle east ready to support. I also think you should have bombed Russia more or less every round . I think you played really well with Japan.  Maybe you should have invested a little more to make sure I could not hold any of the money islands for more than a round .I have had at least one of the islands for several rounds now. If you have any feedback for me I am happy for that! And YES I would like to play again . Start bidding or suggest something if you have any specific in mind.

And of course you were unlucky in the Moscow battle. I am still trying to figure out how unlucky you were

@Gauss_Death:

That is the situation as I expected it (more or less) after the battle with Russia.

I totally agree. This is the expected result. I will try to run the battle several times later to see what happens.