2012 - AA50-41 - League Results and Standings

djensen

Actually, that was an illegal bid. There has to be a unit already in the territory that you put a bid unit in.

Says who? Beside Greg Smorey. :-)

What’s the reasoning behind this? For instance, any hope for KJF requires some creativity like this. Putting a bunch of crap on India doesn’t help but infantry on the islands puts in a nice speed bump for Japan.

djensen

djensen (Axis) over Nix (Allies +8)
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=28327.60

gamerman01

Try a sub to 35 or a fighter to Bry to sucker punch Jap transports at no risk. Sub to 35 also causes a quandary for the lone Jap destroyer which is usually used as fodder in Z53. Also causes problems for the standard carrier to 37 move.

Actually, focusing on Japan can be quite effective without any bid over there at all. I used to think it was crazy to go Pacific with the USA in 1941 but experience has changed my mind. I’ve seen Japan fold up like a house of cards (from both sides of the table) several different times - it can happen even faster with bids.

As to why the bid is technically illegal? I have no idea. It’s been the rule for I don’t know how long. Don’t worry about it - I was just making an observation. Yoshi didn’t care or didn’t know it was illegal and he won anyway, so it doesn’t matter. Just an FYI for future reference.

JWW and/or Darth - looking over the 2012 league rules on bid placement, it is not clear what is allowed or unallowed. It refers to “full bid placement” and “same as previous year leagues”. New players won’t know what the bid placement rules are, so these should probably be spelled out specifically each year in the league rules.

gamerman01

@Gamerman01:

As to why the bid is technically illegal?Â I have no idea.Â It’s been the rule for I don’t know how long.Â

Someone else can enlighten you. I know there’s a reason - I think it’s because you could do some really crazy or cheesy things - crazier and cheesier even than your infantry to the money islands :wink:

666

@Gamerman01:

JWW and/or Darth - looking over the 2012 league rules on bid placement, it is not clear what is allowed or unallowed. It refers to “full bid placement” and “same as previous year leagues”. New players won’t know what the bid placement rules are, so these should probably be spelled out specifically each year in the league rules.

I believe, but could be mistaken, that this rule was carried over from the Revised league of yesteryear. I am sure there was a sound reason for it’s implementation then and carry over now but I don’t recall. Perhaps, this should be reviewed for future Leagues & Tourneys?

666

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=28264.new#new

JWW over Djensen (allies +10) game 2

DarthMaximus

@JWW:

@Gamerman01:

JWW and/or Darth - looking over the 2012 league rules on bid placement, it is not clear what is allowed or unallowed. It refers to “full bid placement” and “same as previous year leagues”. New players won’t know what the bid placement rules are, so these should probably be spelled out specifically each year in the league rules.

I believe, but could be mistaken, that this rule was carried over from the Revised league of yesteryear. I am sure there was a sound reason for it’s implementation then and carry over now but I don’t recall. Perhaps, this should be reviewed for future Leagues & Tourneys?

Yeah, it was carried over from Revised and we can review it.

I believe the reason you needed a “unit already there” was to prevent certain axis naval bids that would completely ruin the game. And in the past (with Revised) the Pac was already all Japanese and they had an inf on most of their islands so it wasn’t really an issue back then if you wanted to add to an island. Land units are not that big of deal, so perhaps the rule could just be in reference to naval placements (ie can only place ships in seazones where you already have ships).