I can see Dylan’s point on the cost though. Also makes 6 that much more justified in my eyes. 5 Was way too cheap, remember when they had 2 defense!? And they were still a bargain back then. Make them Defense 2 and I can get behind 5 IPC’s again.
I can see Dylan’s point on the cost though. Also makes 6 that much more justified in my eyes. 5 Was way too cheap, remember when they had 2 defense!? And they were still a bargain back then. Make them Defense 2 and I can get behind 5 IPC’s again.
I don’t want them to be 2 again, you need a strong land unit on both offensive and defense, that you can rely on.
In the end I totally agree that tanks should be 6 IPC.
Tanks are much better at 6, so Germany does not try that backward “all tanks” buy in order to glitch the game.
The bean counters have been defeated finally and the glitch is gone.
Hey, that’s the smartest thing you’ve said all day IL.
@WILD:
Hey, that’s the smartest thing you’ve said all day IL.
I understood everything except “bean counters” and “glitch”.
it is strange…nothing costs 5 IPCs
Nothing costs 1, 2, 9, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, or 19 ipcs either.
or 21, 22, 3,001, 15,390, 4300, 113, 1/2….
@Imperious:
Tanks are much better at 6, so Germany does not try that backward “all tanks” buy in order to glitch the game.
The bean counters have been defeated finally and the glitch is gone.
How can you glitch Axis and Allies if your following the rules.
BY doing things like buying only tanks for Germany because the number crunchers say they are a better buy. I don’t necessarily believe this, but against Russia thats what they do.
@Imperious:
BY doing things like buying only tanks for Germany because the number crunchers say they are a better buy. I don’t necessarily believe this, but against Russia thats what they do.
In Spring 42 I only bought Infantry once for Germany
Turn 1 40 IPCS: 13 Infantry
Turn 2 43 IPCS: 14 Infantry
etc.
Russia were scared.
@Dylan:
@Imperious:
BY doing things like buying only tanks for Germany because the number crunchers say they are a better buy. I don’t necessarily believe this, but against Russia thats what they do.
In Spring 42 I only bought Infantry once for Germany
Turn 1 40 IPCS: 13 Infantry
Turn 2 43 IPCS: 14 Infantry
etc.Russia were scared.
Why? Inf are not really threatening. They should be frustrated that you have good defense, though.
@Dylan:
@Imperious:
BY doing things like buying only tanks for Germany because the number crunchers say they are a better buy. I don’t necessarily believe this, but against Russia thats what they do.
In Spring 42 I only bought Infantry once for Germany
Turn 1 40 IPCS: 13 Infantry
Turn 2 43 IPCS: 14 Infantry
etc.Russia were scared.
Why? Inf are not really threatening. They should be frustrated that you have good defense, though.
I was bigger then them!
I have thought for many years that tanks should cost 6, I for one am very glad to see it happen. I would like to see a light tank though, move 2, 2-2 or 3-2 or 2-3. I need to play around with the idea more but I think it would be a great addition at 5 points.
How about a heavy tank? Move 2, 4-4? It would be like the King Tiger, the Churchill, or the Stalin tank. It would cost 8 ipc, or 7…just a thought. By the way, my extra 5 ipc will go to tech research.
@The:
I prefer a 5 ipc tank but I can see the reasoning of 6 since we now have mech infantry. But a 7 ipc tank would be way too much at that point you should just get a man and an art. since they would both hit at a 2 and can absorb two hits as opposed to the tank that hits on a 3 and can only absorb 1 hit. I am okay with 6 ipc tank.
Seconded!
I think fighters are too expensive comparied to tanks. loose all your fighters, they are hard to replace.
Not at all! The biggest advantage of fighters over tanks is that you can use the in support of an infantry attack but then withdraw them to safety. Any tanks you use in such an attack would have to stay in that territory (unless you retreat of course, but then make sure you don’t actually end up conquering the territory. This is a good tactic in a limited number of cases only) and hence be vulnerable to a counterattack. You then lose more valuable pieces if your opponent attacks you with infantry + air support.
The only thing that makes tanks worth considering is the ridiculous movement allowance. Tanks moved across the world at exactly the same speed as infantry; i.e. the speed of the train that was carrying them.
With sensible land movement rules 2 infantry would always be a better buy than 1 tank.
The only thing that makes tanks worth considering is the ridiculous movement allowance. Tanks moved across the world at exactly the same speed as infantry; i.e. the speed of the train that was carrying them.
With sensible land movement rules 2 infantry would always be a better buy than 1 tank.
Thats why in the real war there were much more infantry then tanks.
In AA revised 2004 some theories said that you had to invest all your money in infantry instead of tanks.
Those were wrong theories because (and i am not going to explain the math and statistic) investing all the money in tanks allowed Germany to take SU capital in the first round (due between other things the 2 spaces moving capacity) and this severelly cripled SU saving lots of money in not destroyed units for Germany.
Now the tanks are too expensive and those theories about investing all the money in infantry gain sustentability.
If I am understanding you correctly, the tactic is for G to only buy tanks and send them all towards Russia. I’ve faced against this tactic quite often when playing Revised/42 on TripleA, I usually smile when my opponent decides to use it :)
The thing about this tactic is that it is supposed to scare the Russian player into defensive mode but if Russia isn’t cowed by it then it will start to be a waste of IPCs for the Germans. The Allies can quickly set up their navy and start trading W Europe, E. Europe, Bielorussia, Ukraine and Karelia with the Germans and Germany will have to start spending those valuable tanks instead of infantry to retake those territories or see its production level drop to the same level as Russia.
No. 1 and 2 force you to save 1 or 2.
No what? If you only have 1 or 2 IPC’s left then you save them if your playing by rules that allow you to save 1 or 2.
Do you mean playing by the rules? Really, who doesn’t play with being able to save money? Most likely you, but I don’t know any others.
