@strategic:
1 day, 10 hrs, 40 mins.
Anything else? :roll:
And now to piss eveyone off
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hey jenn i saw your list thats pretty funny. but W should be higher than the clintons. what about a list of who screwed up the country the most W would have to be near the top
Who screwed up the country the most?
Taft
T. Roosevelt
F. Roosevelt
Eisenhower
Truman - Oh my Gawd did he screw us up! He CAUSED the cold war, almost single handedly….Stalin helped a little.
McKinnley
Carter
Clinton
W.
Sr.
Nixon
Kennedy
JohnsonThat’s not set in stone in that order, but it’s pretty close. I might flip one or two here or there.
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What do you mean by “screwed up the country”? I think you’re dealing in highly subjective terms here, which makes any list of “Biggest Screw-Ups” rather useless.
And while I’m at it, what do you mean, Truman caused the Cold War? FDR caused the Cold War with his pandering to Stalin, and refusal to let Western forces push on into the rest of Germany and Eastern Europe at the close of the European Theater. Truman might not have helped the situation, but FDR instigated it.
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Save that crap for another thread. This is about Christmas. I happen to know that it was February 30.
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@froodster:
Save that crap for another thread. This is about Christmas. I happen to know that it was February 30.
Yea idiots! Christmas is the shiznet!
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Eisenhower? My God what are you smoking Jen?
Teddy? Well he screwed other countries up, especially Spain, but wrong again!
W? Everybody knows W kicks ass, and its the dumbasses in Congress who have screwed things up.
Jesus Jen, get with the picture!
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@M36:
W? Everybody knows W kicks a**, and its the dumbasses in Congress who have screwed things up.
Logically incorrect, sir. I do not know this (true or not). ergo, not everybody knows this.
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What is Doubyas solution to most problems? Send in the Marines! Doubya definatly kicks ass.
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I did not say that he didn’t kick ass.
I only said that I do not know that he does.
Therefore, you are incorrect when you state that "Everyone knows … "
As a parallel example, I would be incorrect if I said “Everyone knows humanity is causing global warming.” Switch does not believe (or know) this, so I would be wrong to claim that everyone did.
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Switch has simply seen contrary evidence that blast the snot out of the hypothesis of man-made Global Warming.
Facts are an amazing thing, and the Global Warming hypothesis fails to stand up to them.
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@M36:
Eisenhower? My God what are you smoking Jen?
Teddy? Well he screwed other countries up, especially Spain, but wrong again!
W? Everybody knows W kicks a**, and its the dumbasses in Congress who have screwed things up.
Jesus Jen, get with the picture!
i think she is smoking look at the chart. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_United_States_Presidents most of her picks are dems that should very high on the list. only sr., w and nixon belong pn that list all the others did a good job as leaderes. really good leaders. if kennedy lived longer he probablly would be the greatest president ever instead of just a great president.
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Kennedy was not in office long enough to achieve jack shite. And his Legacy was all that cap that Johnson rammed through Congress saying “John would have wanted this”.
Great Presidents? NIXON.
There is an old Vulcan proverb… Only Nixon could go to China.
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Well actually Nixon had alot of potential, and he could have been a great president, but the whole watergate thing hurt him just a tad.
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@M36:
Well actually Nixon had alot of potential, and he could have been a great president, but the whole watergate thing hurt him just a tad.
no even without watergate. i still don’t like him.
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@M36:
Eisenhower? My God what are you smoking Jen?
Teddy? Well he screwed other countries up, especially Spain, but wrong again!
W? Everybody knows W kicks a**, and its the dumbasses in Congress who have screwed things up.
Jesus Jen, get with the picture!
Apparently you see Jennifer’s lack of skills in making lists. I hope she doesn’t make the grocery lists too. :-o
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sorry to get everybody off topic, this was about christmas. so we should move christmas to march or april when we actually have snow. remember white christmas. i’m in detroit 10 days before christmas and it’s 50 degrees, yae global warming doesn’t exist.
w kicks a**. are you kidding me. start a thread to list his accomplishments. don’t leave out pushing his religion into our constitution, or tax cuts during war time, or sitting on his hands for 2 weeks while people were dying in new orleans. just to list a few.
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@ncscswitch:
Switch has simply seen contrary evidence that blast the snot out of the hypothesis of man-made Global Warming.
Facts are an amazing thing, and the Global Warming hypothesis fails to stand up to them.
Except the facts you are purporting are hypotheses as well. :-P It’s just a matter of what the individual believes. And I’m with mojo that 60 degree weather in mid-December is highly unusual. But not for the past couple of years…
Nixon was a smart guy. That was his strength & partly his downfall. He was too paranoid of other people, and had a god complex. Watergate was probably the tip of the iceberg for what he did/would have done.
And about W. I don’t really understand Jenn’s assessment. If she is knocking Dems with her list (which it looks that way), why would W. be where she lists him if she has been insisting lately that he is actually a Dem himself?
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I am just using the very same ice core temp records as teh global warming folks, except I am using the WHOLE scale from the Valdivostok core, not just the top couple of feet :-P
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Well speaking of warming, its 60 degrees in my hometown of Winsted Connecticut. Good argument for global warming right there.
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It’s rather humorous, I put W on the list and all the Republicans blast me, but I also put FDR on the list so all the Liberals aer blasting me. Believe it or not, I just look at what came out of their presidency, not just what they did IN office.
Let’s go in order:
Taft - Other then being the only United States President to hold political office after his Presidency as a Supreme Court Justice, he was a drunkard, he split the Republican Party getting us Wilson and was a progressive - a sin that is unforgivable to any true capitalist.
T. Roosevelt - Started the progressive party. Put America on the road of Imperialism. His policies were used by later presidents to cripple the public free market, head us toward socialism and over inflate the government so far that none of our founding fathers would recognize anything more then mere titles of office.
F. Roosevelt - The biggest crook in the history of the United States, even his mother would not go along with his sanctioned theft of monies by the US Government. FDR’s programs permanently put a barrier between the American people and the creation of independant wealth. It is because of FDR that social class permeability is all but unachievable for the vast majority of people. This means that the rich will remain rich forever and the poor will remain poor forever.
Eisenhower - Prosecuted the Cold War which lead to the Middle East siding with the USSR, the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans in Korea - a war that is still raging today, led to the creation of the Anti-Israel League.
Truman - Oh my Gawd did he screw us up! He CAUSED the cold war, almost single handedly….Stalin helped a little. Instead of letting Stalin rant, as was his want, and then negotiating like adults, Truman ranted back, causing tensions that caused the cold war until Reagan destroyed it with the help by the Russian Premier in the 1980s.
McKinnley - Though he was eventually stopped by a patriot’s gun, this man almost prevented the United States from recovering from the 1893 depression because he opposed the silver standard for currency and inacted the highest tarriffs on foreign goods ever seen by this nation, yes that includes today.
Carter - Couldn’t defend the nation, let alone himself from a wee little bunny wabbit.
Clinton - Blew up hospitals and nunneries in an adept to divert attention from his illegal FBI file gathering, black mail, defrauding of senior citizens, sexual harrasment and lies to the American people. Gave ICBM technology to the Chinese as a thank you for illegal campaign donations for his first and second term of office. Gave China preferred trading partner, driving what was left of American manufacturing out of the nation. Created NAFTA which drove what was left of American labor out of the nation. Attempted to institute a communist style health care program. Guarenteed student loans which in turn raised college tuitions across the country by over 35% Raised taxes on the population mildly, but almost doubled the taxes on small and medium businesses crippling the creation of new jobs which lead to the second Great Depression which occurred before Bill Clinton left office. Finally, he convinced the young girls across this nation that oral sex wasn’t sex, heavy petting isn’t sex and that murdering unborn children is okay. This lead to the spread of Venerial Disease (or as it is called now, STDs) rampantly through the nation, as you CAN contract VD through sexual acts taht are not intercourse.
W. - While his foreign policies are great, his domestic policies are sheer lunacy. We have the Patriot Act, the Homeland Security, the over inflation of domestic government, the lack of ability to stand up to the Senate or the House regardless of who is in control. This man can hardly be considerred an Energetic Executive, which is what a President is supposed to be.
Sr. - Even though he spoke for the American people when he vomitted on the Japanese leader in the 1990s. He failed to finish Iraq in 1992. He further failed to restore the government to profitability that Reagan gave us after the 1980s. Fortunatily, his failures resulted in him loosing his office. Unfortunately, the American people did not realize the demon we were replacing him with.
Nixon - Do I really need to get into it? Illegal wire taps. Illegal taping of conversations. Illegal pulling of FBI files (just Like Bill Clinton did later).
Kennedy - Almost destroyed the world. He’d have been higher on the list, but he only ALMOST destroyed the world with regards to the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis. Probably assassinated for the good of the nation by his Vice President, the Speaker of the House and a pair of CIA snipers.
Johnson - Basically a do nothing guy, but he did further open the door between TDR’s socialist programs and FDR’s eventual crucifixtion of the free market through his totally ineffective New Deal.
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you tell em jenn !!! ya i love it. but W’s foreign policies are great :? he attacked the wrong country what ever happend to the guy who actually attacked us on 9-11. what ever happend to we will make no distinction between terriosists and those harboring them. it’s looks like pakistan is harboring him so lets go get him. oh no we can’t because they are our allies :?
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