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Industrial Complexes

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17Mark71 '13
last edited by Mar 20, 2011, 10:40 PM

Where’s the link that had the info on ordering the industrial complexes from the game Fortress America? The search engine here sucks to say the least. Thanks.
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Imperious Leader '17 '16 '15 Organizer '14 Customizer '13 '12 '11 '10
last edited by Mar 20, 2011, 11:00 PM

www.Historicalboardgaming.com
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17Mark71 '13
last edited by Mar 21, 2011, 1:13 PM

Those aren’t the one’s I’m looking for. Someone had a post to a Hasbro link and an order form for a different style I.C.
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Sime '10
last edited by Mar 21, 2011, 11:37 PM

Do you mean the Risk cities?

You can get them here:

Risk Replacement Parts

They are with the blue pieces
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[G40] No New Industrial Complexes (Strategic Movement & Reasonable Industry)

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• • Dec 19, 2022, 8:13 PM • hengst Jan 6, 2023, 11:57 PM

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B Jan 6, 2023, 11:57 PM

@hengst yea i read through them again. Some cool ideas. The End Points are interesting. Kind of a Railroad type thing. For Land anyway.

Got a couple other things going, but yea, gonna check it out some more :)
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Underground Industrial Complex

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• • Jul 8, 2018, 2:10 PM • Johnson73 Jul 8, 2018, 5:07 PM

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Underground Factory
C10
Build (not islands) on any territory worth 2 or more icps.
Build 1 unit Per Turn only.
Cannot be damaged by SBR attacks.
Enemy captures territory with factory, gets to use it on there next turn.

Tech
Spy discovers underground factory
Can SBR factory up to 5 icp dam max. Must be fully repaired to use
Something to this effect. If you have Partisans in game they could also attack it. Maybe 3 damage and must be fully repaired to use.

Would this C10 be to low ? Pay 10 for factory, then drop a capital ship next to a territory worth 2 or more anywhere next to a sea zone.

Maybe have it where you can only
build a undergroundfactory on your own original starting territory.
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[Global 1940] New Complex Idea

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• • Jun 21, 2018, 6:22 PM • TheAandAClassicDude Jul 5, 2018, 8:23 PM

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C Jul 5, 2018, 8:23 PM

I have to disagree. Imagine Japan building a micro in western China or the Novosibirsk area. That would allow a quick overrun of the unprotected Soviet territoriies while the Russians are cornered in Moscow. It tales a fast unit four turns to get from the Chinese coast (where factories can be built) to Moscow, while a micro could bring troops to the front immediately.

Even a micro in the Shan State or Yunnan could be detrimental to India simply because of the added range. Though a micro is not as economical as a minor, it gives Japan a privilege it rarely ever gets early on: building inland.
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Industrial omplexes with reduced production capacity

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• • Feb 7, 2015, 11:53 AM • arwaker Feb 7, 2015, 1:29 PM

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Nope
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Upgrading industrial complexes

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• • Feb 5, 2015, 3:25 PM • groovyarmada Feb 13, 2015, 10:17 AM

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G Feb 13, 2015, 10:17 AM

Got it, thanks for all the replies everyone. I’d agree with one of the posters that the rule could be worded better.

Cheers

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Building Infantry Without Industry

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• • Jan 3, 2013, 4:13 AM • Dylan the Canadian Jan 17, 2013, 10:13 PM

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F Jan 17, 2013, 10:13 PM

Think of every tt with an IPC value as having an infantry “depot”. The limit raised per turn based on the IPC value is reasonable.

But in the long term (and I’m thinking in particular of WWI) the number of men of fighting age available in any area is limited. WWI would not have gone on indefinitely; each side would simply have run out of men. Furthermore, the more you try to recruit in a particular area, the quality of troops raised decreases, and resistance to conscription grows.

Also consider depots as infantry training centres; a unit recruited there receives basic training, say the equivalent of a 1-1 infantry unit.

Leave it there another turn and it improves to a 1-2 unit, or you might use the turn to train it as storm troopers, paratroopers etc. You have to decide on the value of properly trained units against the immediate need for troops at the front, even if they’re just raw recruits to soak up hits.

A further refinement is to indicate the nationality of a depot; some nationalities will fight for more than one side, for example Romanian units might be raised by Germany or Russia depending on who controls Bucharest.

Units starting the game can be assumed to be fully trained, those raised from scratch start as raw. You can even consider some casualties to be wounded, and needing to be sent back to the depots for recuperation.
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Industrial Complex Rule Placement Change

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• • Nov 4, 2010, 4:55 AM • aethervox Nov 5, 2010, 7:38 PM

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F Nov 5, 2010, 7:38 PM

…which were quickly wiped out by Japan and not replaced.

The Soviet Navy had to build ships in Russia then sail them out to form the Pacific fleet.

I don’t buy the idea of complexes as staging areas - this can apply to any area where you build up forces, and doesn’t need a factory. To me, “Industrial Complex” means a vast industrial base of economic production in which weapons of war are forged. To establish such a base overseas from scratch is simply not realistic. Much, much cheaper and quicker to ship/rail the units from their base of origin in your home territory which is exactly what the game should reflect.

Industrial complexes (at least building new ones and using other player’s) are one of those hangovers from the original game design that somehow haven’t been updated because they feel like too much a part of the A&A tradition. But, like the Sinai peninsular being in Trans-Jordan, or the disturbing re-appearance of the Hiberno-Caledonian land bridge, they don’t belong in a game which purports to represent World War II.
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Complexes

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• • Feb 28, 2004, 3:36 AM • Chesty Puller Mar 7, 2004, 10:12 PM

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M Mar 7, 2004, 10:12 PM

Hey CP, I like this idea!

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